Somaliland Elites Misleading and giving out false hope to their citizens by claiming the UK requires 100k signed petitions 4 recognition (11K so Far)

[Manafesto]

Another Wishy-Washy UK Response Snubs 5.7 Million Somalilanders’ Right to Another Shot at Sovereignty​

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February 11, 2022

More than eleven thousand Somalilanders signed a petition calling the United Kingdom government to consider recognizing the Republic of Somaliland – a former British protectorate.

“Recognize Somaliland as an independent state,” the petition title read.
“…we formally want the UK government to formally recognize Somaliland as an independent state,” the text said.

A stock message in which the United Kingdom responded to the British signatures calling for UK support for the reinstatement of the full sovereignty of the people of Somaliland in par with other world nations, was a mere echo of that of one of its ministers barely three weeks ago.

At a time a number of fellow parliamentarians were holding a debate at the House of Commons to urge their government to revisit its obdurate policy towards Somalilanders’ right to claim their statehood once more, the Hon. Vicky Ford, MP for Chelmsford, Minister for Africa, Latin America & Caribbean, did not even wait for the debate to begin.

“Adjournment debate in @HouseofCommons underlines consistent UK government position on Somaliland status. It is for SL & Federal Gov of Somalia to decide their future. We continue to cooperate with Fed Gov of Somalia & SL on democracy, security & prosperity,” she tweeted a few hours before the debate even started pacifying a chagrined Somalia minister.

The Minister’s statement drew an apt rejoinder for the Hon. Gavin Williamson who led the House of Commons’ adjournment debate.

The Honorable Gavin Williamson, Conservative Member of Parliament for South Staffordshire, and a former senior Minister
“This shows a complete lack of understanding of the political reality on the ground. It’s important for junior ministers to listen to Parliament as it is the role of Parliament to have a say on policy.

Yesterday showed there is a broad consensus for UK Gov to recognise Somaliland,” he shot back at the time.

This time around, the response to the petition went a step further down the obduracy ladder.
The response totally reduced the impassioned plea for consideration to a condescending promise of an undefined pledge to support the development and to continue engaging with the ‘authorities’ in Hargeisa.

Confirming a long-suspected unimaginativeness and a loss of initiative on the part of successive United Kingdom governments since the reign of Margaret Thatcher which seemed to always unthinkingly endorse peer opinions, the Boris government only elaborated on Minister Ford’s earlier blunder.

The response granted Somalia superpowers and a say-so on Somaliland destiny in a bloc it was a member and Somaliland was not again – the African union.

“The UK – in line with the rest of the international community – does not recognize Somaliland as an independent state.
“The UK values the close and productive relationship it has with Somaliland. However, in line with the rest of the international community, we do not recognise it as an independent state. We firmly believe that it is for Somaliland and the Federal Government of Somalia to decide their future.

Any new arrangements would need to be recognised by neighbours in the region and the African Union. The African Union is the pre-eminent regional body mandated to defend the sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of its Member States, of which Somalia is one. The UK Government has long encouraged dialogue between the authorities in Mogadishu and Hargeisa on their future relationship, and we continue to do so,” the UK statement on the petition reiterated.

Showing a worse lack of judgment and grasp of the subject and the situation that inspired it, the Boris Johnson government went on a patronizing tone – a tone reserved for people holding out a begging bowl. It ticked off how much of the British taxpayers’ hard-earned money was being dished out to Somaliland.

“The UK is nevertheless proud to be a leading partner of Somaliland. We have supported and will continue to support, peace, stability and democracy in Somaliland and our co-operation with the authorities there is greatly valued. For a decade, we have been the only Western bilateral donor with a permanent diplomatic mission in Hargeisa. In addition, our Ambassador and officials based in the region make regular visits and engage at the highest levels.

The UK further supports Somaliland through a network of development programmes that operate unhampered by the UK’s position on Somaliland recognition. UK assistance includes support for specific sectors such as education, revenue collection, security or justice institutions. Our Somali Girls’ Education Promotion Programme has reached over 13,000 girls in Somaliland to support their learning and transition from primary to secondary school. We also lead a £30 million multi-donor fund to support the delivery of the Somaliland National Development Plan; and we are providing targeted support to the Berbera Corridor which will help to unlock prosperity in the Horn of Africa. British International Investment (BII),

The UK’s development finance body, has invested in Berbera Port as part of an initial £232m investment into three ports in Africa. This is part of wider partnership between BII and UAE’s DP World. Our existing £25m of investment in programmes in Berbera will drive economic growth, help build stability in the Horn of Africa, and present significant opportunities for UK business,” it said.

Then the response authors at the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development Office decided to chart a new priority for Somalilanders ignoring the one right in front of their eyes – again condescendingly to promise ‘support’ that did not consider the one uppermost on all Somalilanders’ hearts and minds.

“We will continue to support the Hargeisa authorities, and the people of Somalilan

On their democratic journey. We will do this by investing in Somaliland in pursuit of trade and prosperity, by building security for all Somalilanders, and by supporting development and resilience to the impact of climate change,” the statement concluded.
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is at Buckingham Palace, a stone’s throw away from 10 Downing Street.

Besides the Somaliland Country Profile, below is a reminder enough of a history lesson that should have been mandatory for all incoming UK governments.

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https://www.somtribune.com/2022/02/11/another-wishy-washy-uk-response-snubs-5-7-million-somalilanders-right-to-another-shot-at-sovereignty/

 

[Manafesto]

Ingiriiska oo codsi 100,000 qof reer Somaliland ah saxeexaan ku xidhay aqoonsi​

February 12, 2022

Dawladda Ingiriiska Oo Shuruud fudud ku xidhay in si rasmi Dood looga Furo Aqoonsi Ay Siiso Jahmuuriyadda Somaliland.
Dawladda Ingiriiska, ayaa ka soo jawaabtay codsi ay u gudbiyeen muwaadiniin reer Somaliland ah, kuwaas oo ku codsanayey in Somaliland aqoonsi ka hesho dawladda Boqortooyada Ingiriiska.

In ka badan 10 kun oo qof oo reer Somaliland ah oo saxeexay dalab (Petition) lagu doonayey aqoonsi ay hesho Somaliland, ayaa waxa ka soo jawaabtay xafiiska arrimaha dibedda iyo Barwaaqo sooranka ee Ingiriiska,

waxaanay sheegeen in ay qiimeeyeen codsiga soo gudbiyey ee lagu dalbanayey aqoonsiga Somaliland, waxaanay sheegeen in ay Somaliland ula macaamilaan si toos ah oo uu ka dhexeeyo xidhiidh wanaagsani, balse aanay u aqoonsan weli dal madax bannaan.

Xafiiska Foreign Commonwealth Office (FCO), waxa uu ka dhawaajiyey in loo baahan yahay in Somaliland iyo Somalia sii wadaan wada hadalladooda si ay mustaqbalkooda go’aan uga gaadhaan.

Dawladda Ingiriisku waxa kale oo ay xustay in haddii la helo dadka gaadhaya 100.000 oo qof oo reer Somaliland ah oo saxeexa dalab lagu doonayo aqoonsiga Somaliland in markaa la tix gelin doono oo ay dawladda ku cadaadin doonto in dood rasmi ah oo la xidhiidha aqoonsiga Somaliland laga furi doono Baarlamaanka Ingiriiska.

https://www.berberanews.net/2022/02/12/ingiriiska-oo-codsi-100000-qof-reer-somaliland-ah-saxeexaan-ku-xidhay-aqoonsi/

 

[General bacluul]

Why do u you opppose somaliland recognition

 

[codewebsduh]

Hargeisa authorities lmao.

 

[Periplus]

I hope they also consider this petition in UK parliament.

 

[Ibz0]

Do you never rest? It's unmanly to have such obsessions.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were bitter about not being from SomaliLand

 

[Based]

Let them keep begging. They've been told many times that they should seek recognition from Mogadishu but no, they want to be hard headed and retarded.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

In order to be admitted to the UN, first you have to be accepted by all 5 permanent members of the Security Council. The US, UK, France, Russia & China.

What has Somaliland been doing over the past year? They have been antagonizing China by courting Taiwan. Taiwan is a country that is losing recognition month by month, having lost Nicaragua in Dec 2021. Meanwhile, China is a potential hegemon vying to replace the US as a global power. Imagine poking China where it hurts most and expecting it to grant you recognition.

'Born free': Somaliland says China can't dictate to it over Taiwan

These people are not serious. If they were serious they would have done everything they could to get on the good side of every P5 country, like Djibouti has done. Somaliland's politicians want quick "wins" to then take back to their uninformed public.

Very good news for us.

 

[Periplus]

In order to be admitted to the UN, first you have to be accepted by all 5 permanent members of the Security Council. The US, UK, France, Russia & China.

What has Somaliland been doing over the past year? They have been antagonizing China by courting Taiwan. Taiwan is a country that is losing recognition month by month, having lost Nicaragua in Dec 2021. Meanwhile, China is a potential hegemon vying to replace the US as a global power. Imagine poking China where it hurts most and expecting it to grant you recognition.

'Born free': Somaliland says China can't dictate to it over Taiwan

These people are not serious. If they were serious they would have done everything they could to get on the good side of every P5 country, like Djibouti has done. Somaliland's politicians want quick "wins" to then take back to their uninformed public.

Very good news for us.

100% agree with this.

Somaliland have lost their chance at full-fledged ictiraaf via the UN. They can never get full UN membership.

But as many Landers say, their aim isn’t ictiraaf but to improve living standards and cooperation with Taiwan may very well achieve that.

 

[General bacluul]

Somaliland wants state Recognitions from several countries like Kosovo un membership is oke but. It’s not our first priority. Taiwan gdp is over a trillion dollars we want all the other nations to recognise our independence and we will get there un membership Is useles the the Palestinians have observer status failed state Somalia is a member with a paper govt

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

100% agree with this.

Somaliland have lost their chance at full-fledged ictiraaf via the UN. They can never get full UN membership.

But as many Landers say, their aim isn’t ictiraaf but to improve living standards and cooperation with Taiwan may very well achieve that.

Somaliland needs to gain recognition or at least UN support for a referendum fairly soon, within 10 years.

Most Isaaq still think they are 70% of the population of former British Somaliland; when in reality as of 2022 the figure is more like 55%. Isaaq started their fertility transition before Harti.

There cannot be a viable Somaliland where Isaaq are 50% of the population and Harti are 30%, but that is where things are headed in the next 10-15 years. They don't have time, but they don't know it.

 

[Dharbaaxo Jin]

Somaliland needs to gain recognition or at least UN support for a referendum fairly soon, within 10 years.

Most Isaaq still think they are 70% of the population of former British Somaliland; when in reality as of 2022 the figure is more like 55%. Isaaq started their fertility transition before Harti.

There cannot be a viable Somaliland where Isaaq are 50% of the population and Harti are 30%, but that is where things are headed in the next 10-15 years. They don't have time, but they don't know it.

Well, well, well... If it isn't S-spots resident suugo science salesman trying to peddle his consistently disproved twaddle again.

Keep praying that phantom infertility problem come to your rescue in your fantasies, instead of summing up the balls to fight for the "Harti-lands" your heart desires. Until then Somaliland is waiting for you just a stone's throw from your capital, at Tukaraq,.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Well, well, well... If it isn't S-spots resident suugo science salesman trying to peddle his consistently disproved twaddle again.

Keep praying that phantom infertility problem come to your rescue in your fantasies, instead of summing up the balls to fight for the "Harti-lands" your heart desires. Until then Somaliland is waiting for you just a stone's throw from your capital, at Tukaraq,.

 

[Dharbaaxo Jin]

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That might be what real science looks like.

This is your "science":

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I will try to get a a long post out today since it's a weekend and I have time.

 

[Dharbaaxo Jin]

I will try to get a a long post out today since it's a weekend and I have time.

Be careful not too add too much milix to your suugo science


PS I wouldn't waste your effort, you aren't got to be saying anything new. Everyone's read your poorly cobbled mumbo jumbo umpteen times and nobody buys it, other than your fellow pirate enclave fanatics who badly need a fantasy to detract from their L's.