Somalis Try To Sell Democracy When They Are Not

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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Its funny seeing these Somalis thinking democracy is holding 1m1v voting, they don't know that's just one part of democracy, it's like one factor in a big ass equation.

To be a true democracy you need to adhere to freedom of speech, freedom of media, freedom of religion and equality for all citizens irrespective of clan, ethnic, sect, religious or any identity group even lgbtq now. It's about transparency(not secrecy which Somalis favor) and accountability. Somalis don't hold favourable conditions to ever be a democracy, so it's best to cease trying to be what your not and embrace what the hell you are.

So why claim your a democracy or aspire to be one, when you don't even fulfill 10% of the equation that is required of a democracy. Iran holds one man and one vote, who calls them a democracy?

Somalis need to sit down and admit your not a democracy nor is it even possible in your cultural context so create a system that is at least realistic and can allow for your society to develop and progress while being stable.

But it's damn cheesy when you see the leaders there trying to act like a democracy, as a diaspora we feel embarrassed to talk to our peers when we know full well what a democracy entails. Their is no cutting corners or try to redefine democracy to suit your warped views, the equation is established either u meet it or u don't.

What Somalis need to do is stop trying to be something your not, it looks cheesy and fake, just create some neo traditionalist system because your people cannot rise to a democratic level and will remain in identity politics. At least then things can be done when you embrace your a lower social human.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Somalis try to waste their time being something their not nor is their any favourable conditions for what u may desire. Your at best no different to 70% of the world reduced to identity politics whether it's ethno nationalism, clannism, religious, language, it's always down to some petty identity it isn't based on a culture and law of free exchange of ideas or what people actually say or think and trying to evaluate its benefits and losses.

They are not a people at an intellectual level, your talking a damn illeratcy rate in the 60% and higher and it's a damn shame trying to act or play like it's any different and waste valuable time.
 

hayran

"Leopards Eating Qoti's Faces Party"
Democracy just doesn’t exist in the 3rd world, it can only be a broken system working against the interests of the people or flat out mob tyranny. There’s a reason they make distinction “democratic countries” and liberal democracy (meaning only wealthy high IQ countries can pull it off)

Plato already called out this bullshit thousands of years ago yet the world wants to ignore it
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Democracy just doesn’t exist in the 3rd world, it can only be a broken system working against the interests of the people or flat out mob tyranny. There’s a reason they make distinction “democratic countries” and liberal democracy (meaning only wealthy high IQ countries can pull it off)

Plato already called out this bullshit thousands of years ago yet the world wants to ignore it

They should embrace their so called values diinta, dalka, dadka notice it's down to identity 😆 even at its official level, when in reality it's down to clan(identity) or personal gain(something even Abe lincoln said a leader is judged on how he neglects himself for the greater good of majority). They don't hold the idealogy of democracy or even the values underpinning it like Abe Lincoln stated.

Listen their like 70% of the world and need to accept their down to identity what that identity is irrelevant cause it's merely about social identity such as sect, religion, language, gender, clan, tribe, ethnicity. Their also underpinned by personal gain which is counter to what Abe lincoln defined as a good leader.

What we need to accept, Somalis will never be about free exchange of ideas as what matters is the identity of the person not the content of what they present, they don't actually assess the value of what's being said or written, they look at the gender, religion, ethnic, clan their always guided by some identity level not the true seeking of knowledge irrespective of identity elements.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Democracy amongst Somalis descends into clan and sub clan voting. 🤣

Are u saying they can't even fulfill 1m1v criteria to vote on ideas and they resort to voting on identity politics? shit bra, even the 10% weight which 1m1v represents in the democracy equation, this reduces them lower forget addressing all the other factors in the equation in a democracy like free speech, equality, good governance, transparency open and loud not a secrecy culture lol, accountability not just saying cafis culture.

f*ck these people nothing they do or practise is even remotely close to democratic, they are the absolute opposite monster of a democracy.
 
Are u saying they can't even fulfill 1m1v criteria to vote on ideas and they resort to voting on identity politics? shit bra, even the 10% weight which 1m1v represents in the democracy equation, this reduces them lower forget addressing all the other factors in the equation in a democracy like free speech, equality, good governance, transparency open and loud not a secrecy culture lol, accountability not just saying cafis culture.
We lack independent thinking and are the type of people who elect irrational leaders to shout populist slogans, instead of choosing those who focus on the well-being of the state.
 

SilentE1001

Reformation of Somaliland
VIP
Put the fries in the bag bro, keep crying

How loud are you screaming when you search Somaliland and see all those positive articles and tweets.

Living with this much hate is not healthy
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Put the fries in the bag bro, keep crying

How loud are you screaming when you search Somaliland and see all those positive articles and tweets.

Living with this much hate is not healthy

I don't care too much 4 empty words, I do care for development and progress not online ranting
 
I don't care too much 4 empty words, I do care for development and progress not online ranting
He is making up for lost time since he fled this forum over a year ago
Joe Biden Lol GIF
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
I don't care too much 4 empty words, I do care for development and progress not online ranting

U just another low iq somali u look at my clan identity not actually assess, critique, support, anything I present. Judge my content, words, text, ideas, don't sit there judging my clan origin, how the f*ck can u have a enlightenment or knowledge exchange which such silly identity politics.
 
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