by far since my time here these two have been consistent in fulfilling their duties as mod splendidly, I say this cause I haven't witnessed them being biased. To judge a persons character you have to judge them from how they comeback from hardship, they don't hold a grudge & more time take words with a pinch of salt, no matter how many times I insult them, they remain cordial, you have to give credit where credit is due, you have my utmost respect.