The Jewish diaspora are originally from Mesopotamia

[Xoxoxo]

Aka modern day Iraq.

they aren’t even native to the land, they simply moved there because they were told to.

In the mean time they killed off the actual natives off that land.

and afterwards when a famine hit them, they moved to Egypt.


And it’s facts btw, this is all written in the Torah on how Abraham had a dream where god told him to leave the place they were at and to move to a land where there is overflowing milk and honey, aka Canaan. But, they had to kill those people off to eventually settle there, so this whole genocide thing isn’t their first time.

 

[Nilotic]

Abraham was the father of both Arabs and Jews; he wasn't a Jew himself. It's now understood that Jews were just another group of Canaanites that differentiated themselves with the adoption of Monotheism.

 

[HabarSteven12]

'Forgive me,' I retorted, 'but it seems to me that there is some historical oversight here. After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine. Long before them were other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here - the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites. Those tribes continued living here even in the days of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today.

The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in the seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinian or Syrian "Arabs" are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country. Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co- religionists from Arabia.

But can you deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendants of the original inhabitants: original in the sense of having lived in this country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?'

 

[Xoxoxo]

'Forgive me,' I retorted, 'but it seems to me that there is some historical oversight here. After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine. Long before them were other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here - the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites. Those tribes continued living here even in the days of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today.

The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in the seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinian or Syrian "Arabs" are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country. Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co- religionists from Arabia.

But can you deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendants of the original inhabitants: original in the sense of having lived in this country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?'

They most likely aren’t since it’s mentioned that the Jews have massacred the Canaanites

 

[Xoxoxo]

Abraham was the father of both Arabs and Jews; he wasn't a Jew himself. It's now understood that Jews were just another group of Canaanites that differentiated themselves with the adoption of Monotheism.

Yeah but his sons are also from Mesopotamia, Ishmael & Isaac.

they all were born there, so their whole argument about being the native people off the region is bullshit since they lived “East”

 

[Bazed]

Their holy book even talks about when they got to Palestine there were people there, the Cainites. Moder research shows these people lived there and their modern descendants are Lebanese, Jordanian and Palestine people. The Jews seem not to even know their history or the purposely stay ignorant, cause acknowledgment means they have to accept they're a colonial project.

 

[mohammdov]

They are not from Iraq. Most of the Jews today have their origins from Eastern Europe, and this is scientifically proven

 

[Xoxoxo]

They are not from Iraq. Most of the Jews today have their origins from Eastern Europe, and this is scientifically proven
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I’m talking about their origin, not their dna

 

[NidarNidar]

'Forgive me,' I retorted, 'but it seems to me that there is some historical oversight here. After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine. Long before them were other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here - the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites. Those tribes continued living here even in the days of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today.

The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in the seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinian or Syrian "Arabs" are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country. Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co- religionists from Arabia.

But can you deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendants of the original inhabitants: original in the sense of having lived in this country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?'

Those groups you mention mostly were Canaanites who are west semetics, bar the Hittites who are indo Europeans.

I’m talking about their origin, not their dna

Their origins are from the levant, the area is just a hotbed of war, the Palestinian have survived by adapting to their surroundings.

The majority of Palestinian Christians (31.82%) were a subclade of E1b1b, followed by G2a (11.36%), and J1 (9.09%). The majority of Palestinian Muslims were haplogroup J1 (37.82%) followed by E1b1b (19.33%), and T (5.88%).


Approximately 35% to 43% of Jewish men are in the paternal line known as haplogroup Jhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews#cite_note-25 and its sub-haplogroups. This haplogroup is particularly present in the Middle East and Southern Europe.[24] 15% to 30% are in haplogroup E1b1b,[c] (or E-M35) and its sub-haplogroups which is common in the Middle East, North Africa, and Southern Europe. The haplogroup Mediterranean T1a1 is found in varying percentages depending on the Jewish group studied but with upward of 15 to 3% with the highest frequency within Jewish communities native to the Fertile Crescent and East Africa.

E1b1b1c seems to be found in Ethiopian Amharas, so their claims might be true.

 

[mohammdov]

I’m talking about their origin, not their dna

Do you think that the Jews are the same ones who were expelled from the Levant? Most of them today are people who have converted to the Jewish religion, but do not have origins dating back to Jacob.

 

[NidarNidar]

Do you think that the Jews are the same ones who were expelled from the Levant? Most of them today are people who have converted to the Jewish religion, but do not have origins dating back to Jacob.

Most of the real Jews are currently locked in Gaza and West Bank, only the rich jews went into exile, the majority of the poorer peasant farmers stayed behind.

Do you think that the Jews are the same ones who were expelled from the Levant? Most of them today are people who have converted to the Jewish religion, but do not have origins dating back to Jacob.

From what I understand, people have been leaving that region for thousands of years, J1 in NA/HORN is quite new, but it seems to me, that J1 pushed south of the levant taking over native HG in the Saudi peninsula, alongside E1b1b and T1, you can find the same breakdown of haplogroups still residing in the levant.

 

[mohammdov]

Most of the real Jews are currently locked in Gaza and West Bank, only the rich jews went into exile, the majority of the poorer peasant farmers stayed behind.

Search for the Kingdom of the Khazars and then you will understand what I mean. The Askenazi Jews are people who converted to the Jewish religion, only that the real Jews are very few and most of them lived in MENA But many of them became Muslims and Christians

 

[NidarNidar]

Search for the Kingdom of the Khazars and then you will understand what I mean. The Askenazi Jews are people who converted to the Jewish religion, only that the real Jews are very few and most of them lived in MENA But many of them became Muslims and Christians

Ashkenazi Jews are mainly R1B, you will find E1B1B, J1 and g2a amongst them, they seem to originally be paternally Jewish but absorbed locals, similar to Ethiopian Jews and the Lemba, the Askenazi are paternally and maternally mixed with locals.

 

[Keo]

Abraham was the father of both Arabs and Jews; he wasn't a Jew himself. It's now understood that Jews were just another group of Canaanites that differentiated themselves with the adoption of Monotheism.

I agree with your first sentence but Jews are not Canaanites.

 

[NidarNidar]

I agree with your first sentence but Jews are not Canaanites.

Canaanites were the pagan natives of the land of Canaan, the Jews most likely emerged as a religious movement from within the Canaanite population,