The People who Say They're "Quranists" are Liars!

[Omar del Sur]

Quranist: Whoever Doesn’t Believe in Sunnah, Haven’t Believe in Quran by Sheikh Sulayman Ar Ruhayli

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[Aurelian]

The Quranists don't acknowledge the most of the Sunnah, the majority don't acknowledge the sunnah at all. So, how you can bring them this hujja that the prophet said that the sunnah is the inter-related with the Quran? If the Quran commands them to follow the Sunnah, they would have followed it.

 

[Odious Delirium]

The Quranists don't acknowledge the most of the Sunnah, the majority don't acknowledge the sunnah at all. So, how you can bring them this hujja that the prophet said that the sunnah is the inter-related with the Quran? If the Quran commands them to follow the Sunnah, they would have followed it.

The quran does command us to follow the sunnah tho these quranists just want to do whatever they want them saying they follow the quran is cop out cover because you can't follow the quran without the hadeeth.

 

[Omar del Sur]

The Quranists don't acknowledge the most of the Sunnah, the majority don't acknowledge the sunnah at all. So, how you can bring them this hujja that the prophet said that the sunnah is the inter-related with the Quran? If the Quran commands them to follow the Sunnah, they would have followed it.

TIme and time again, you show up and you're promoting some sort of deviance. All the time you come with some new angle from which you push to undermine Islam.

Now you just blatantly try to undermine the Sunnah. Like was mentioned, the Quran does call to following the Sunnah. The Quran is full of ayat that indicate this.

This is after you promoted for people to "take all hadith with a grain of salt," after you encouraged people not to trust Saheeh Al-Bukhari, after you claimed Imam Mahdi isn't real and is a Shia fabrication, it's a just a giant list with you of deviations.

And before, you would deny being a Quranist when people suspected you of having a pro-Quranist agenda. You would deny it now you're just openly defending the Quranists. You are constantly pushing for deviancy and people should be careful of whatever venom it is you put out next to corrupt their understanding of Islam.

 

[Aurelian]

The quran does command us to follow the sunnah tho these quranists just want to do whatever they want they want saying they follow the quran is cope out cover because they don't do that

Quranists follow the Quran, otherwise they would not called themselves as Quranists. They use ironically a hadiths of that says: Abu Ma’mar reported that a person lauded a ruler amongst the rulers and Miqdad began to throw dust upon him and he said: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded us that we should throw dust upon the faces of those who shower too much praise.

 

[Aurelian]

TIme and time again, you show up and you're promoting some sort of deviance. All the time you come with some new angle from which you push to undermine Islam.

Now you just blatantly try to undermine the Sunnah. Like was mentioned, the Quran does call to following the Sunnah. The Quran is full of ayat that indicate this.

This is after you promoted for people to "take all hadith with a grain of salt," after you encouraged people not to trust Saheeh Al-Bukhari, after you claimed Imam Mahdi isn't real and is a Shia fabrication, it's a just a giant list with you of deviations.

And before, you would deny being a Quranist when people suspected you of having a pro-Quranist agenda. You would deny it now you're just openly defending the Quranists. You are constantly pushing for deviancy and people should be careful of whatever venom it is you put out next to corrupt their understanding of Islam.

Undermine Islam? Quranist? Dude, I am just giving you their perspective of hadiths. The problem with you is that you always quick to jump to baseless conclusions. You remeber calling me FBI-feminists-liberal-marxist for just debunking your misinformations?

 

[Hamzza]

The Quranists don't acknowledge the most of the Sunnah, the majority don't acknowledge the sunnah at all. So, how you can bring them this hujja that the prophet said that the sunnah is the inter-related with the Quran? If the Quran commands them to follow the Sunnah, they would have followed it.

Because they don't follow the Quran either. they are the worst of the heretics. Qadiyans and Nusayris call themselves Muslims but are not Muslims by the consensus of the Ummah.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Quranists follow the Quran, otherwise they would not called themselves as Quranists. They use ironically a hadiths of that says: Abu Ma’mar reported that a person lauded a ruler amongst the rulers and Miqdad began to throw dust upon him and he said: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded us that we should throw dust upon the faces of those who shower too much praise.

I'm not even writing this to respond to you. I'm just writing this to have your quote saved in this post in case you try to change or delete your post later. just this by itself shows that you are a seriously dangerous person who is out to promote deviancy. just this by itself is proof enough that people should avoid and be wary of whatever it is you say when it comes to Islam.

also that is a really weird way of distorting that hadith. that hadith is talking about praising people. in no way is it any sort of evidence for so-called "Quranism".

 

[Omar del Sur]

Undermine Islam? Quranist? Dude, I am just giving you their perspective of hadiths. The problem with you is that you always quick to jump to baseless conclusions. You remeber calling me FBI-feminists-liberal-marxist for just debunking your misinformations?

I don't think I've ever called you fbi or marxist. but yes you have pushed liberal, feminist type stuff before.

 

[Aurelian]

I'm not even writing this to respond to you. I'm just writing this to have your quote saved in this post in case you try to change or delete your post later. just this by itself shows that you are a seriously dangerous person who is out to promote deviancy. just this by itself is proof enough that people should avoid and be wary of whatever it is you say when it comes to Islam.

also that is a really weird way of distorting that hadith. that hadith is talking about praising people. in no way is it any sort of evidence for so-called "Quranism".

Bruh I copied the wrong hadith. the one you quoted and saved and threatening me with is the hadith 7142 while the hadith I thought I pasted is 7147 which is this

Abu Sa’id Khudri reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Do not take down anything from me, and he who took down anything from me except the Qur’an, he should efface that and narrate from me, for there is no harm in it and he who attributed any falsehood to me-and Hammam said: I think he also said: “deliberately”-he should in fact find his abode in the Hell-Fire.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

quranists don’t even know how to pray or when to pray

 

[Omar del Sur]

Quranist? Dude, I am just giving you their perspective of hadiths.

you are defending them and then you go and say this and act like it's this casual thing and it's ok to go and defend "Quranism". I don't say they're non-Muslim but.... it is a super serious deviation. You can't even pray salat based on "Quran-alone" methodology. If you reject the hadith, you can't even say how many rak'ahs are in maghrib (or in any of the other salat).

 

[Aurelian]

quranists don’t even know how to pray or when to pray

They actually believe in the 5 salat and exact rakat as the sunnah.

 

[Omar del Sur]

quranists don’t even know how to pray or when to pray

I had a "Quranist" neighbor. I used to go over to his apartment and argue with him. We were arguing for years. And after years he still couldn't figure out how to pray.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

They actually believe in the 5 salat and exact rakat as the sunnah.

now here’s the issue. quran doesn’t specifically say pray 5 times a day, the number of rakat or how to pray. that’s where you need the hadiths to know how to pray so where do they get this from? at this point they’re picking and choosing the sunnah

 

[Keep it a boqol]

I had a "Quranist" neighbor. I used to go over to his apartment and argue with him. We were arguing for years. And after years he still couldn't figure out how to pray.

it’s laziness and dishonesty. they want the label of monotheism but by rejecting the hadith they get more wiggle room and interpretation for their dunya.

 

[Aurelian]

now here’s the issue. quran doesn’t specifically say pray 5 times a day, the number of rakat or how to pray. that’s where you need the hadiths to know how to pray so where do they get this from? at this point they’re picking and choosing the sunnah

The way of praying was passed on from early muslims unchanged, muslims were praying from the early days non stop. So the knowledge of praying was being passed on from early days of salah till to day. You or any of us didn't read the instruction of how to pray from Sahih Al-Bukhari or Muslim but from your parents or the imam, or the teacher.

Unlike the hadith that were compiled after hundred of years after the death of Prophet Muhammad and had to go through intense authentication and verification that was agreed upon from early days.

 

[Omar del Sur]

They actually believe in the 5 salat and exact rakat as the sunnah.

I don't even think this is accurate to talk like they're all this one united group. Obviously they're all super deviant but I think different ones might pray 3 salat or different numbers of salat. I know there's one group where I don't think they even call themselves Muslims, they call themselves "Submitters". I think they have a huge number of different groups and interpretations of what "Quran-alone Islam" means in practice. Quranists get to basically just make up their own version of what they think Islam should be like.

 

[Omar del Sur]

The way of praying was passed on from early muslims unchanged, muslims were praying from the early days non stop. So the knowledge of praying was being passed on from early days of salah till to day. You or any of us didn't read the instruction of how to pray from Sahih Al-Bukhari or Muslim but from your parents or the imam, or the teacher.

(just saving this part in case you try to change or delete it later)

Unlike the hadith that were compiled after hundred of years after the death of Prophet Muhammad and had to go through intense authentication and verification that was agreed upon from early days.

ok now this activates my spidey-sense... this is straight-up a Quranist talking point. now I'm seriously thinking you are likely a crypto-Quranist this whole time. all the weird beliefs.... it all makes sense now. I remember when my "Quranist" neighbor used to tell me this exact same thing that you are saying.

all the strange beliefs... how you swoop in to defend "Quranists" when I make this thread against them..... it all makes sense now...

 

[Aurelian]

I don't even think this is accurate to talk like they're all this one united group. Obviously they're all super deviant but I think different ones might pray 3 salat or different numbers of salat. I know there's one group where I don't think they even call themselves Muslims, they call themselves "Submitters". I think they have a huge number of different groups and interpretations of what "Quran-alone Islam" means in practice. Quranists get to basically just make up their own version of what they think Islam should be like.

How Muslims knew how to pray if the hadiths where compiled 2 hundred of years after the death of prophet mummmed?