The True Identity of the Somali in the Table of Nations.

I wanted to make a thread on this for a while now because I did a lot of research. I did a thread years ago explaining where we came from, and I still believe in my theory. This will be about who the biblical Cushites are.

Cush was the son of Ham. He had sons:

Nimrod
Seba
Havilah
Raamah
Sabtah
Sabtechah

My perspective is that we are the sons of Havilah, son of Cush and Joktan. And this thread will explain why, via process of elimination.

Nimrod was a person who made the Sumerian civilization or Babylon. Not much to explain here.

Cush is based on the Kingdom of Kush. The Greeks called them Ethiopia. So Sudan is the real Ethiopia, not the modern nation, which is really Abyssinia.

Seba is described as very dark and tall people. To me, these are the Nilotic people.

I do not know who the sons of Sabtah and Sabtechah are. There's not much stated.

Raamah's son Sheba and Havilah are also the sons of Joktan, son of Shem. Remember this, this will be important.

Raamah had two sons, Dedan and Sheba. Dedan and Sheba mixed with the Joktan line of Sheba, and they were the original Arabs, before Ishmael's line (where the Prophet pbuh descents from).

We know Raamah then is aligned with the middle east, not Africa. Between Sudan and the Middle East is either Egypt or the Horn of Africa.

Egypt is Mizraim, son of Ham. So they cannot be Havilah.

Somalis, and those similar to us, like the Oromo have around 40% autosomal DNA related to the Levant Natufians. And 60% from Nilo-Saharans.

What if the 40% is Joktan and the 60% is Cush?

The Table of Nations is based on what the Hebrews saw. So if Havilah is connected to both Shem and Cush, like Raamah but not Seba, then it makes sense.

A pure Cushite would be Nilotic.

So why are Somalis called Cushites? Because of the Hamitic Hypothesis. To create a connection between Europeans and Africa to justify colonial rule, they've removed the consideration of Nilotic people as Cushites.

This is my hypothesis.
 
Two Jewish scholars in the 10th and 12th century have also stated that Northern Somalia is a good candidate for Havilah.

As they both don't have a claim to the land or any political causes for choosing it as a possible candidate, and also being scholars of Hebrew tradition, their position makes more sense to me than others.
 
I wanted to make a thread on this for a while now because I did a lot of research. I did a thread years ago explaining where we came from, and I still believe in my theory. This will be about who the biblical Cushites are.

Cush was the son of Ham. He had sons:

Nimrod
Seba
Havilah
Raamah
Sabtah
Sabtechah

My perspective is that we are the sons of Havilah, son of Cush and Joktan. And this thread will explain why, via process of elimination.

Nimrod was a person who made the Sumerian civilization or Babylon. Not much to explain here.

Cush is based on the Kingdom of Kush. The Greeks called them Ethiopia. So Sudan is the real Ethiopia, not the modern nation, which is really Abyssinia.

Seba is described as very dark and tall people. To me, these are the Nilotic people.

I do not know who the sons of Sabtah and Sabtechah are. There's not much stated.

Raamah's son Sheba and Havilah are also the sons of Joktan, son of Shem. Remember this, this will be important.

Raamah had two sons, Dedan and Sheba. Dedan and Sheba mixed with the Joktan line of Sheba, and they were the original Arabs, before Ishmael's line (where the Prophet pbuh descents from).

We know Raamah then is aligned with the middle east, not Africa. Between Sudan and the Middle East is either Egypt or the Horn of Africa.

Egypt is Mizraim, son of Ham. So they cannot be Havilah.

Somalis, and those similar to us, like the Oromo have around 40% autosomal DNA related to the Levant Natufians. And 60% from Nilo-Saharans.

What if the 40% is Joktan and the 60% is Cush?

The Table of Nations is based on what the Hebrews saw. So if Havilah is connected to both Shem and Cush, like Raamah but not Seba, then it makes sense.

A pure Cushite would be Nilotic.

So why are Somalis called Cushites? Because of the Hamitic Hypothesis. To create a connection between Europeans and Africa to justify colonial rule, they've removed the consideration of Nilotic people as Cushites.

This is my hypothesis.
Fantasy
 
But they fit the description. And Nilotics not meant to be Hamites is based on the view that Hamites are Caucasians. This is a European belief, not bound by any Hebrews in the past.
Hamites was based on linguistic similarities which today falls under Afro-Asiatic. You have the genetic factor that unites the Hamites too. Nilotes are completely different. Tall people always existed in Arabia as mentioned in the Quran with the people of A’d. Cushitic like people are said to have lived in Arabia too as the linguist detected.
 
Hamites was based on linguistic similarities which today falls under Afro-Asiatic. You have the genetic factor that unites the Hamites too. Nilotes are completely different. Tall people always existed in Arabia as mentioned in the Quran with the people of A’d. Cushitic like people are said to have lived in Arabia too as the linguist detected.
Were those Cushitic speakers who allegedly lived in parts of Arabia prior to Semitic expansion like Modern Horn Africans genetically or were they highly Natufian like modern Arabians?
 
Interesting stuff. Reminds me of large swaths of Eastern Europe that was inhabited by Iranic speakers prior to Slavic speakers conquering them. You'd never guess Iranian [European genetically] peoples lived in Eastern Europe in the past.
Yeh Europe was settled by different groups throughout the ages.

Look no Indo European R1b to be found at all during Mesolithic 😂

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