Welfare queens exposed: Galnus and Hirshabelle living off of food stamps with almost no domestic revenue generation

[Crow]

@DR OSMAN
The budgets of Galnus and Hirshabelle are almost entirely funded through foreign aid, while aid only makes up a minor portion of Puntland's budget.

Domestic revenue as a portion of total budget:

1. Puntland (88%)
2. Jubaland (76%)
3. South West State (30%)
4. Hirshabelle (13%)
5. Galnus (9%)

Foreign aid as a portion of total budget:

1. Galnus (91%)
2. Hirshabelle (87%)
3. South West State (70%)
4. Jubaland (24%)
5. Puntland (12%)

This is astonishing. Not because the two mooryaan states are at the bottom. That's no surprise at all.

It's astonishing because Galnus was supposedly created in 2006 and Hirshabelle, which only formed in 2016 - a full decade later, appears to have already surpassed them in state building.

@Galmudug-State
Ileen all this time you were a welfare queen in both the diaspora and back home. What do you have to say for yourself?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Crow I know my 'abtiyaal' they can fool 'some of the people at times but not all of the people all the time' the reason their taxation revenue is so low is because the people majority are gaajo. They were never self-sufficient why u think they hold onto the 'somali card', they know without it, what the future looks like for them.

Damn even South-west is performing better then all of them, we should form ties with south-west as they have 66 portion of mps plus we have no border or political dispute(they r speaker), plus their people benefit a-lot from PL. The relationship is 'ripe' for maturing.

They went to egal lol and he told them to get fucked when they asked he assist them to kick USC out of baydhabo showing u how deep this 'irir shit' goes.

 

[Crow]

@Galmudug-State

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Crow the reason I love 'federalism' is the 'dead weight' areas no longer can hide under the '1 nation' card, it starts to show the nation and people where the losers are and productive people. For example in America, imagine they had unitary nation, dulis like missisipi would be allowed to hide under the 'union' card and not being exposed as federalism achieves. That's why hawiyes hate federalism they know they are weaker capacity then other clans and cannot stand alone and therefore want to hide under the unity card like the old days so people don't notice his 'naflacari' ass. But @Calaf knows their futo don't u sxb

 

[Karim]

@Galmudug-State

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Galmudug-State @Mckenzie take back your argument that PL gets more foreign aid? in-fact the data shows you DO because 'aid' is used for 'poverty'. SL has a shocking ratio of foreign aid also.

That's why I say GM should just join PL and stop kidding themselves, a govt that can't even fund itself is no govt at all. It's a joke and this joke has to come to an end with GM becoming a region of PL

 

[Abdi Caato]

The budgets of Galnus and Hirshabelle are almost entirely funded through foreign aid, while aid only makes up a minor portion of Puntland's budget

Foreign aid as a portion of total budget:

5. Puntland (12%)

according to official ministry of finance for PL, $243,464,977 of PL's budget for fiscal year of 2020 comes directly from foreign aid (world bank projects + bilateral grants + UN partner projects + international NGO partner projects)

this accounts for more than 70% of PL's total budget....that is almost 6x more than the "12%" which you falsely claim above

you can see the video (which looks like it was prepared on PowerPoint 1997 kkkk) for yourself

Domestic revenue as a portion of total budget:

1. Puntland (88%)

have some shame sxb, it is literally the opposite, the foreign aid which PL receives is much closer to "88%" than the revenue it generates for itself

 

[Baboon]

This thread back fired so badly, it’s unbelievable.

 

[TabK]

Backfired very quickly

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waryaa @Abdi Caato do not make me post a vicious report on how 98% of SL is developed by diaspora and 2% is locally driven. Do not make me do it waryaa, your pushing the doctor to the limit when PL development is 98% local 2% diaspora

 

[FBIsomalia]

@DR OSMAN
The budgets of Galnus and Hirshabelle are almost entirely funded through foreign aid, while aid only makes up a minor portion of Puntland's budget.

Domestic revenue as a portion of total budget:

1. Puntland (88%)
2. Jubaland (76%)
3. South West State (30%)
4. Hirshabelle (13%)
5. Galnus (9%)

Foreign aid as a portion of total budget:

1. Galnus (91%)
2. Hirshabelle (87%)
3. South West State (70%)
4. Jubaland (24%)
5. Puntland (12%)

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This is astonishing. Not because the two mooryaan states are at the bottom. That's no surprise at all.

It's astonishing because Galnus was supposedly created in 2006 and Hirshabelle, which only formed in 2016 - a full decade later, appears to have already surpassed them in state building.

@Galmudug-State
Ileen all this time you were a welfare queen in both the diaspora and back home. What do you have to say for yourself?

Even before collapse of Somalia they use to take national welfare. Just check how they dont know on how they govern their lands and put isbaaro in roads lool.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

 

[Inquisitive_]

according to official ministry of finance for PL, $243,464,977 of PL's budget for fiscal year of 2020 comes directly from foreign aid (world bank projects + bilateral grants + UN partner projects + international NGO partner projects)

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this accounts for more than 70% of PL's total budget....that is almost 6x more than the "12%" which you falsely claim above

you can see the video (which looks like it was prepared on PowerPoint 1997 kkkk) for yourself



have some shame sxb, it is literally the opposite, the foreign aid which PL receives is much closer to "88%" than the revenue it generates for itself

When you factor in aspects that other Somalis never received such as the most favourable tribal demographics, which of course lead to the longest period of peace that no other Somali region experienced.

The sheer fortune of inheriting kacaan era national assets that generates tremendous revenue, ports, airports and plenty of kacaan era buildings that no other region inherited which fortunately survived the brutal civil war and subsequent anarchy.

When you factor in the fact that no region in Somalia received the type of aid that Puntland has and continues to do so due to their brilliant PR campaigns.

You would have expected by now that they would have been an oasis something close to Dubai or Singapore among a savage primitive hordes, but alas the reality is so different.

Forget Singapore or Dubai, had they been anything close to Rawanda, I myself would have campaigned for their leadership and so would the rest of the Somalis.

But the reality is that we are all third world, impoverished, destitute and naked, the laughingstock of the world, all of us are on welfare and wouldn't be able to survive a week without this.

To make delusional threads like this knowing our collective miserable state is a type of shamelessness you won't find with any other ethnic group.

 

[Crow]

according to official ministry of finance for PL, $243,464,977 of PL's budget for fiscal year of 2020 comes directly from foreign aid (world bank projects + bilateral grants + UN partner projects + international NGO partner projects)

View attachment 149657

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this accounts for more than 70% of PL's total budget....that is almost 6x more than the "12%" which you falsely claim above

you can see the video (which looks like it was prepared on PowerPoint 1997 kkkk) for yourself



have some shame sxb, it is literally the opposite, the foreign aid which PL receives is much closer to "88%" than the revenue it generates for itself

The key word is "projects". These are not cash transfers and the Puntland government doesn't control that money. These are projects being implemented by the UN, World Bank, and other NGOs.

Here is an example of the kinds of projects we're talking about.

World Bank Approves $112 Million to Strengthen Local Government Capacity and Provide Urban Infrastructure for Somalis

WASHINGTON, December 9, 2019 — The World Bank today approved a $112 million grant to deliver prioritized infrastructure in Somalia’s cities and strengthen municipal government capacity. The Somalia Urban Resilience Project (SURP) II will support infrastructure investments in strategic cities such as Mogadishu, Garowe, Kismayo and Baidoa while also laying the groundwork for expansion to cities in the States of Galmudug and Hirshabelle to achieve national coverage.

“This project is building on the gains of the existing Somalia Urban Resilience Project (SURP) and helping to show that using country Public Financial Management systems and allowing local governments to take the lead in delivering services to their citizens can be extremely effective,” said World Bank Country Manager for Somalia, Hugh Riddell. “This project empowers municipal and district governments to deliver tangible benefits to their citizens.

The financing for the Somalia Urban Resilience Project (SURP) II includes a $50 million IDA and $62 million co-financing from the Somalia Multi-Partner Fund (SMPF). In a context where cities are struggling to cope with the provision of basic infrastructure and services to a rapidly growing urban population, this project will focus on building the resilience of Somali cities. SURP II will strengthen municipal government capacity and help local governments deliver prioritized infrastructure to their citizens.

“We recognize that urbanization is a significant catalyst for development and if managed well, will provide a pathway out of poverty and act as an engine for growth for the people of Somalia,”said Marius Rauh, Head of Development Cooperation of the German Embassy in Nairobi. “To ensure effectiveness, we are putting citizen engagement at the heart of the project by involving communities in selecting and prioritizing infrastructure investments through a participatory decision-making process.” The German government via KfW development bank substantially supports the MPF with approximately $52 million focusing on the rehabilitation and expansion of productive urban infrastructure.

Communities will not only play a role in selecting the infrastructure projects that they need but also in choosing the community members that benefit from short-term labor opportunities and those to represent them within the grievance redress committees. The project will avail short-term income generation opportunities to put much needed money in the pockets of women, the urban poor and internally displaced persons.

“SURP Phase II will endeavor to address inequality and exclusion by focusing on infrastructure investments that help integrate the displaced population as well as the urban poor,” said the Minister of Public Works, Abdi Adam Hoosow. “The project will aim to ensure voices of the most vulnerable groups such as women, youth and the displaced are heard.”

The project agreement was signed between the World Bank and the Ministry of Finance with Federal Government of Somalia oversight.

The World Bank Group and other development partners have been supporting Somalia’s reforms since 2014 through the Somalia Multi-Partner Trust Fund (MPF), which finances government-led state-building for service delivery and economic growth, with over $447 million from eleven donors. The MPF is a pooled fund under the Somalia Development and Reconstruction Facility, which brings together Federal Government, Federal Member States, Parliament and the international community.

Another example is the new e-learning initiative funded by UNICEF.

These NGO projects are not unique to Puntland and you can even see other regions mentioned in the World Bank project I just posted above.

The difference between these projects and the grants under analysis is that they are managed and implemented by NGOs, whereas grants are given to governments to supplement the core budget used to perform basic governmental duties.

In Puntland, our civil servants, teachers, soldiers, MPs, police, etc are all paid using our internal revenues (i.e. the $93 million in the chart you posted), which are raised through taxation. In the past, these internal revenues were all we considered as part of our budget.
This led to much shock when Puntland's budget suddenly ballooned to $346 million.
There were several threads here doubting that with many users accusing us of cooking the numbers. What happened was the Ministry of Finance began to include externally funded and managed projects as part of the reported budget.

The World Bank report in the OP omits these externally funded and managed projects and only looks at core government budgets, which is the money that a government uses to deliver basic governmental services. As this section is about COVID-19, this is the money that would be impacted by a pandemic.

The fact of the matter is Galnus has no tax base to speak of. The MPs are paid by Norway and the soldiers are funded through isbaaros with occasional visits by the FGS funded SNA. In fact, Galnus's entire security is delegated to a foreign country and funded by the EU. It must be nice to not have any responsibilities whatsoever and for someone else to do everything for you.

The point of this thread was to illustrate that if foreign aid was cutoff to all of Somalia today, Puntland would suffer, but Galnus would collapse. That is the difference between a working man and a welfare queen.