What Happened to Somali Pride and Self Respect?

Hamzza

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Here is an interesting story from colonial Kenya demonstrating how proudful Somalis of the past were.

When Franklin Roosevelt, the 26th President of US come to Kenya for game hunting in 1909, he was advised to use Kiboko (whip) to the utmost since it was the only language Africans understood to stay orderly. Edgar Beacher Bronson, an American big game hunter who had just finished his safari in Kenya before the arrival of Roosevelt, wrote: "Roosevelt will have to close his eyes and accustom himself to occasional severe floggings of the African wapagazi (porters), for without it no safari could be held together a fortnight; discipline would soon disappear and that quickly be followed by open revolt,"

Kiboko is a flexible, but stiff straight whip cut out of hippo hide, that when used on human skin it draws blood or raises welts double its own diameter.

To justify its use on Africans Bronson claimed a black man's skin has a far coaser fibre than the white man's, and therefore endures and recovers from punishment and wounds no white man could survive. He went on to cite his own experience in whipping African porters, claiming that most of them never held a grudge for whipping. You order him to lie down "he goes without a murmur and uncomplaining until the flogging is finished, and often springs to his feet, draws himself up and salutes his bwana."

While Roosevelt had accepted the services of Somali servants based on Sir William McMillan's farm at Kilimambogo, his chosen head of Safari Mr. J. Cunninghame was greatly opposed to the idea and instead proposed the Waswahili. His reason being that the Waswahili could easily take in viboko's without complaining unlike the Somali who could not stand a blow, a kick or a Kiboko. Any man who treated them badly was pretty certain to end up with a knife sticking in his ribs sooner or later. The only person they respected was their employer at Kilimambogo, Sir MacMillan, who had established extraordinary authority and influence over them. But even then, he was none too safe.

Bronson also narrated how one day he punched his Somali askari in the face for passing him the wrong bullets. To his surprise the poor man while grinning in pain drew himself up and gravely said: "You are my Bwana and my father, good!" Acccording to him he knew the response was not genuine, and it was only a matter of days, weeks or months before he ended up with a knife in his ribs. He only felt safe after his train pulled out of Nairobi on his way to America.

For a very long time physical violence against African servants was an integral and characteristic part of European domination in Kenya, and was part of a peculiar pattern of race relations.
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Hamzza

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This Quote is from the book 'the Madmullah of Somaliland' by Douglass Jardine:
During the Great War, a travelled Somali was once asked by a British officer which he thought were the greatest races in the world. He promptly replied that the British were the greatest. Asked which he would place next, he said the Somalis were equally great. The Arabs he placed third, and the Germans fourth; but he resolutely declined to accord places to any other nation.
 

El Nino

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All this pride and we still got colonised, where was our fighting spirit when gaalos came to our country. Even the story @Hamzza posted the somalis were working for the white man, shameless bunch.
 
All this pride and we still got colonised, where was our fighting spirit when gaalos came to our country. Even the story @Hamzza posted the somalis were working for the white man, shameless bunch.

You do know a lot of Somalis went to war, right?
The Sultanates of Majeerteenia, Hobyo, Dervishes, Biyomaal tribe, all fought against Colonialism. But Somalis were not all united and we eventually lost.
 

Hamzza

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All this pride and we still got colonised, where was our fighting spirit when gaalos came to our country. Even the story @Hamzza posted the somalis were working for the white man, shameless bunch.
We stood no chance against the mighty Europeans sxb, people and nations who were more organized and advanced materially than us were colonized.
 
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El Nino

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You do know a lot of Somalis went to war, right?
The Sultanates of Majeerteenia, Hobyo, Dervishes, Biyomaal tribe, all fought against Colonialism. But Somalis were not all united and we eventually lost.

I know somalis fought the british and italians but it wasn’t enough, it is what it is. We fought and were defeated, due to our petty differences. Colonisation began our century of humiliation, I wish our forefathers did more to combat it but I can’t change history. May the fallen heroes and everyone who fought reach Jannatul Firdows, Aamiin.
 
I know somalis fought the british and italians but it wasn’t enough, it is what it is. We fought and were defeated, due to our petty differences. Colonisation began our century of humiliation, I wish our forefathers did more to combat it but I can’t change history. May the fallen heroes and everyone who fought reach Jannatul Firdows, Aamiin.
Everyone was defeated by Europeans due to their techonolgical superiority and Strong Unity they had, Indians, Chinese, Africans, Arabs, Latinos etc.

We Somalis fought hard and didnt let go easy like those weak Indians etc., gotta give credit to the Habeshas as well
 

El Nino

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We stood no chance against the mighty Europeans sxb, people and nations who were more organized and advanced materially we colonized.

The ethiopians managed to beat italians in the first Italo-Ethiopian war and remained independent for 40 years after the scramble for Africa began.
 

El Nino

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Everyone was defeated by Europeans due to their techonolgical superiority and Strong Unity they had, Indians, Chinese, Africans, Arabs, Latinos etc.

We Somalis fought hard and didnt let go easy like those weak Indians etc., gotta give credit to the Habeshas as well

Us somalis resisted better then most ethnic groups in the world but colonisation set us back for centuries. Ethnic somali lands were divided and given to kaafir rulers, potentially extinguishing our people in those lands. Shit wrecked us.
 

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