What is Salafism and what does it call to?

Those acts are not committed by salafis. "Indeed, what is being carried out from the operations of suicide bombings in Great Britain and in other places of the various lands are nothing but the plots and actions of the Takfīrīs and Khawārij whom the Messenger of Allāh ﷺ dispraised in his statement, “There will come during the last days a young group of people, foolish who would speak the best of words. They will shoot out of Islam as the arrow shoots out of the bow. Their faith will not pass their throats. Therefore whoever finds them should kill them for indeed whoever kills them will find a reward for it on the Day of Judgement.”
Because ISIS and Al-Shabaab are Jewish somaha?

If you fall for that crap then by all means do. But tell me why the Salafis were calling Bin Laden a mujahid when he was fighting the USSR, but as soon as he turned around and fought the Americans he was a khawaarij. Salafi's are led by Saudi scholars, and they will manipulate the religion to suit their own agendas.

Sufism respects different cultures, Salafism forces Arab supremacy disguised as the deen down our throats.
 
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Lum

رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْمًا
Because ISIS and Al-Shabaab are Jewish somaha?hen by all means do. But tell me why the Salafis were calling Bin Laden a mujahid when he was fighting the USSR, but as soon as he turned around and fought the Americans he was a khawaarij. Salafi's are led by Saudi scholars, and they will manipulate the religion to suit their own agendas.

Sufism respects different cultures, Salafism forces Arab supremacy disguised as the deen down our throats.

Proof? Shaykh Bin baz and Shaykh Muqbil warned against Bin Laden in the 90s.
 
Proof? Shaykh Bin baz and Shaykh Muqbil warned against Bin Laden in the 90s.
Are you being serious right now? This is very well documented, when Bin Laden fought the USSR he was praised as a Mujahideen and a hero.

But when he opposed the American base in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Gulf War and the Americans invading Iraq, Salafi Sheikhs turned around and issued fatwas denouncing him and saying whoever fought the Americans and their allies were khawaarij. Tell me why those Sheikhs suddenly decided to call him a khawaarij in the '90s?!

Bin Baz even supported Bin Laden when he was fighting the USSR in Afghanistan, but when it was in Saudi's interests to have an alliance with the USA, he allowed the Americans a base in Saudi Arabia, and turned a blind eye to the invasion of Iraq!
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soo gala @Samaalic Era , I have a headache trying to speak to these brainwashed Salafi's wallahi
 

Lum

رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْمًا
Are you being serious right now? This is very well documented, when Bin Laden fought the USSR he was praised as a Mujahideen and a hero.

But when he opposed the American base in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Gulf War and the Americans invading Iraq, Salafi sheikhs turned around and issued fatwas denouncing him and saying whoever fought the Americans and their allies were khawaarij. Tell me why those Sheikhs suddenly decided to call him a khawaarij in the '90s?!

Bin Baz even supported Bin Laden when he was fighting the USSR in Afghanistan and called for "The defense of Muslim lands", but when it was in Saudi's interests to have an allaince with the USA, he allowed the Americans a base in Saudi Arabia, and turned a blind eye to the invasion of Iraq!
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soo gala @Samaalic Era , I have a headache trying to speak to these brainwashed Salafi's wallahi

Yes, I am serious they warned against him in the 90s.
 
Yes, I am serious they warned against him in the 90s.
You didn't even read the rest of the post, you are a brainwashed xoolo, no amount of reasoning will fix you.

Salafism has given us nothing but death, destruction, and terrorism.

Alhamdulillah, my region and clan are still predominantly Sufi, and that Sufism is still alive and well in Somalia, we will return to our old ways and send these Salafi dogs to akhirah inshallah

@Samaalic Era
 
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Are you being serious right now? This is very well documented, when Bin Laden fought the USSR he was praised as a Mujahideen and a hero.

But when he opposed the American base in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Gulf War and the Americans invading Iraq, Salafi Sheikhs turned around and issued fatwas denouncing him and saying whoever fought the Americans and their allies were khawaarij. Tell me why those Sheikhs suddenly decided to call him a khawaarij in the '90s?!

Bin Baz even supported Bin Laden when he was fighting the USSR in Afghanistan, but when it was in Saudi's interests to have an alliance with the USA, he allowed the Americans a base in Saudi Arabia, and turned a blind eye to the invasion of Iraq!
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soo gala @Samaalic Era , I have a headache trying to speak to these brainwashed Salafi's wallahi

@Lum you need to truthful. It is known that Bin Laden was a hero in the middle East in the Soviet Afghan war but was deemed an enemy when Saudis allowed US troops in Saudi Arabia which pissed him off.

Bin Laden wanted to deploy his fighters to stop Saddam but was rejected. In all of his recordings he explicitly states that US troops being in Saudi Arabia is why he turned on the Royal family

Also Bin Baz did give a fatwa allowing US troops in Saudi Arabia.

Salafis are the biggest lapdogs of west and enemies of the Somali nation
 

nomadicblood

I am not a farax
You didn't even read the rest of the post, you are a brainwashed xoolo, no amount of reasoning will fix you.

Salafism has given us nothing but death, destruction, and terrorism.

Alhamdulillah, my region and clan are still predominantly Sufi, and that Sufism is still alive and well in Somalia, we will return to our old ways and send these Salafi dogs to akhirah inshallah

@Samaalic Era

Usamah Bin Laden praised the killing of innocent men, women and children (including Muslims) by terrorist activities committed in Riyadh, Al Khobar and various other muslim and non-muslim countries. In response Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen declared those responsible of these crimes to be from the Khawarij (an extreme blood thirsty sect).

Trust me Bin laden is not a salafi.

Listen to our walaal speaking against bin laden:


Not everybody is Salafi if they claim to be one. These ISIS supporters hide under Salafi while they are the dogs of hellfire.

And please don´t confuse the haqq with the khawarij ideology.
Salafis speak against any terrorism.

Watch this in shaa´Allah:

I do my investigations and if you did, you would see the errant invitations of these people. You should only love the truth and not the people. Do not link the truth to the people as sheikh bin uthaymeen said.

Sufism is an innovative sect. Sufis commit shirk and worship graves. We worship Allah swt.
Wallahi brother i would like to inform you more about tasawwuf (sufism) if you want in shaa´Allah

I love my folk and i wish the best for them wallahi. I only inform you about this topic to let you think about it. I don´t force anyone to follow something
 

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Usamah Bin Laden praised the killing of innocent men, women and children (including Muslims) by terrorist activities committed in Riyadh, Al Khobar and various other muslim and non-muslim countries. In response Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen declared those responsible of these crimes to be from the Khawarij (an extreme blood thirsty sect).

Trust me Bin laden is not a salafi.

Listen to our walaal speaking against bin laden:


Not everybody is Salafi if they claim to be one. These ISIS supporters hide under Salafi while they are the dogs of hellfire.

And please don´t confuse the haqq with the khawarij ideology.
Salafis speak against any terrorism.

Watch this in shaa´Allah:

I do my investigations and if you did, you would see the errant invitations of these people. You should only love the truth and not the people. Do not link the truth to the people as sheikh bin uthaymeen said.

Sufism is an innovative sect. Sufis commit shirk and worship graves. We worship Allah swt.
Wallahi brother i would like to inform you more about tasawwuf (sufism) if you want in shaa´Allah

I love my folk and i wish the best for them wallahi. I only inform you about this topic to let you think about it. I don´t force anyone to follow something
bin laden was from saudia arabia the land of bin baz abdulaziz and salafism he was a devout salafist how could you say a saudi born and raised in saudia arabia is not a salafi its literally their religion
 

nomadicblood

I am not a farax
bin laden was from saudia arabia the land of bin baz abdulaziz and salafism he was a devout salafist how could you say a saudi born and raised in saudia arabia is not a salafi its literally their religion

You call that divagation. When someone goes astray, he is no longer associated as he followed.
Likewise, jews being jews because their mom is a jew. That doesn´t mean that they will stay forever a jew if they follow something else. They can convert to any religion.



This brother explains why ISIS are upon baatil:




I found a short version of the other clip:
 
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You call that divagation. When someone goes astray, he is no longer associated as he followed.
Likewise, jews being jews because their mom is a jew. That doesn´t mean that they will stay forever a jew if they follow something else. They can convert to any religion.



I found a short version if the other clip takes too long to watch

I dont know a lot about this but it seems like YOU thinks he is no longer a salafi because he dont follow your ways :kanyeshrug:
 
It was not me who made the speech, it was Skaykh Fawzan. And i follow the great scholars. So yes i share their speech.


Want it the great scholars that @Primordial said changed their opinion on Osama depending on who he attacked and arent they the only muslim sect in the history of time that have clapped for the west?
I dont wanna sound rude or ignorant so by all means correct me since i dont posses alot of knowledge on this subject.

But by reading this thread i came up with this.
 
Wasnt it them who overthrew the othoman empire the empire that fought against west?
And when they where overthrew what did this Salafis acomplish apart from misery to the muslim world?
 

nomadicblood

I am not a farax
Want it the great scholars that @Primordial said changed their opinion on Osama depending on who he attacked and arent they the only muslim sect in the history of time that have clapped for the west?
I dont wanna sound rude or ignorant so by all means correct me since i dont posses alot of knowledge on this subject.

But by reading this thread i came up with this.

@Primordial needs to come with proof that Shaykh bin baz said that. How can you take information from Wikipedia, which is a website where everybody can edit something? Two, where is the record where Shaykh bin baz said that? Bring your proof to the table.

And don´t bring Wikipedias not reliable source information.

Pure lies.
 
@Primordial needs to come with proof that Shaykh bin baz said that. How can you take information from Wikipedia, which is a website where everybody can edit something? Two, where is the record where Shaykh bin baz said that? Bring your proof to the table.

And don´t bring Wikipedias not reliable source information.

Pure lies.

Damn bro it took you that long? I just finished taking a jog

anyways like i said i dont know much about this other than i dont like something that tells people to blow themself up and people who brought down the the muslim caliphate othoman empire.
Just to what? I dont trust them for a second these arabs are puppets and lack a spine.
 

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