Why Al-Shabab Won't Be Going Away Anytime Soon

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On June 14, the terrorist group al-Shabab — an al-Qaeda affiliate — attacked a pizza restaurant in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, by detonating a car bomb and sending in assailants. More than 30 people were killed. Earlier in June, al-Shabab overran a military base in the semiautonomous area of Puntland, killing dozens. The group recently surpassed Boko Haram as the deadliest terrorist organization in Africa.

But it’s not the violence that’s attracting followers. My recent field research in Kenya and Somalia, the two East African countries where al-Shabab is most active, suggests that al-Shabab is thriving because it’s still offering a comparatively attractive alternative to the Somali government. It capitalizes on grievances, keeps areas secure and settles disputes, with relatively little corruption. That’s especially attractive in undeveloped or remote areas that the fledgling government has neglected.

As a result, al-Shabab is becoming a shadow government, positioning itself as Somalia’s champion of disenfranchised and marginalized clans.

[A Navy SEAL was killed in Somalia. Here’s what you need to know about U.S. operations there]

The United States has been increasing its military presence and expanding its rules of engagement in Somalia to counter al-Shabab. On June 11, the United States conducted its first strike under these new rules, destroying an al-Shabab training and command center, and then conducted a second strike on July 2, with still a third one on July 4. In March, at the urging of the Defense Department, the Trump administration designated Somalia as an “area of active hostilities,” which allows the United States to conduct offensive strikes that do not require interagency vetting.

How strong is al-Shabab?

To some, al-Shabab looks weakened. It no longer controls major cities or ports. Nor does it have the capacity to militarily recapture them. With those losses went ways to get resources. In addition, international action has reduced al-Shabab’s profit from commodities such as charcoal. Once flush with fightersfrom all over the world, al-Shabab now recruits foreign fighters primarily from the region; foreign fighters no longer figure in the group’s senior ranks. Al-Shabab has not launched a major terrorist attack outside Somalia since 2015. Though looking to relinquish responsibility to Somali security forces, African Union forces (known as the African Union Mission in Somalia, or AMISOM) are there to support Somalia’s new government, which won a national election in February.

But al-Shabab has shown an impressive ability to adapt — and is positioned to not only survive, but to thrive. It has been territorially constrained by AMISOM — but it has overrun AMISOM forward operating bases (FOB), killing and injuring scores of troops and seizing arms, military vehicles and heavy weaponry. The group’s forces are highly decentralized, but it can mass various units to launch an attack.

Further, al-Shabab’s intelligence apparatus, the Amniyat, has been disrupting life in the Somali capital with bombings, assassinations and targeted attacks.

How common is such violence? So common that one person I interviewed in Mogadishu shrugged off a bombing earlier that day as “Somali music.”

What about the group’s presence in Kenya? It’s true that al-Shabab has not carried out an attack in Kenya as large as its attacks on the Westgate mall or Garissa University since 2015. But in the past month, the group has launched IED attacks in Kenya’s northeast and coastal areas. It’s trying to stoke insecurity and widen communal fissures just weeks before the Kenyan elections, a time when tensions are high and there are heightened concerns about potential election-related violence.

Al-Shabab functions as an effective local government

Al-Shabab has deftly managed clan dynamics and provided basic services in ways that have brought it political power and influence throughout southern Somalia, especially the rural areas, where residents are wary of the still-fragile government. That’s what I found as I conducted interviews in Kenya and Somalia in January and in May and June this year.

Security. Al-Shabab offers services that the government still does not, particularly to populations distrustful or excluded from the still-fragile political process. Al-Shabab offers a modicum of security in areas under its influence. It operates courts, including mobile courts, to punish crime and resolve disputes. That’s especially important in an area rife with local conflicts, especially land disputes, and few effective ways to settle them, except violence. While media reports focus on al-Shabab’s harsh sharia punishments, some Somalis seek out al-Shabab courts, knowing that they will deliver a relatively thorough verdict and will enforce resolution.

Taxation. Al-Shabab has a remarkably effective taxation system that few dare to defy, even those living, as one person I interviewed put it, “a stone’s throw from an AMISOM FOB.” That brings in a steady stream of revenue. What’s more, al-Shabab is relatively uncorrupt and efficient. You can see that clearly on the roads that it controls, where it operates checkpoints that require set payments, offer a receipt to passengers, and keep the roads relatively safe.

That contrasts sharply with how others, including government forces, manage roads, which are rife with predation and repeated extortion, which has both safety and economic repercussions — as I heard repeatedly from citizens, businesspeople and aid workers alike.

Decentralized and embedded. Al-Shabab positions itself as a defender of disenfranchised and marginalized clans, expertly manipulating and capitalizing on local and clan grievances to gain support — including gathering the support of anti-government leaders and militias. This has caused the group to become more decentralized, integrating into local communities and permeating Somali society in a way that will make it increasingly difficult to distinguish civilians from combatants.


This dispersed but relatively well-organized structure includes compartmentalized military, terrorism and intelligence apparatuses. Most of those captured can provide little intelligence beyond their narrow range of responsibilities. And everyone is aware that al-Shabab ruthlessly targets defectors and kills suspected spies.

Al-Shabab finds ways to exploit the vacuum left by the state, tapping into a deep reservoir of grievances. It has both conventional military strength and terrorist abilities as well as political and ideological influence that goes beyond its territorial holdings. It has become the main alternative to the government. It will not be defeated by military means alone, and the fitful progress by the Somali government may come too little, too late.

Note: This post has been updated with information about the third U.S. strike on July 4th, and the correct date of the second strike, which was on July 2.

Tricia Bacon, an assistant professor at American University’s School of Public Affairs, was previously a counterterrorism analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department. You can follow her on Twitter @tricbacon.
 
They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.
 
The stupid Somalis keep sleeping on the danger of Bantu Somalis.
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They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.
It's true, these bantus are coming all the way from Uganda and Tanzania just to join al shabab. :kanyehmm:
we need to close a our border before it to late:farmajoyaab:.
They ar even bringing sex slaves to reproduce, shit no wonder they are exploding in population size:kendrickcry:
 
It's true, these bantus are coming all the way from Uganda and Tanzania just to join al shabab. :kanyehmm:
we need to close a our border before it to late:farmajoyaab:.
They ar even bringing sex slaves to reproduce, shit no wonder they are exploding in population size:kendrickcry:


They already started to bring their sex slaves (from their countries)to produce second generation for them.
 

Apollo

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They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.

This is why Bantus will always be bad for Somalia. They have no ethnic loyalty to Somalia. They will do whatever to destroy the country.

The main Cushitic clans (Darod, Dir, Isaaq, Hawiye etc) have some loyalty to Somalia, but Bantus have zero of it.
 

Odeg

Gedo
This idea about alshabab being Bantu organisation its not true. They recruit Bantus mostly in Kenya but no leadership role is handed to them. Even that article confirmed it. Their leader is Dir and all clans concist of alshabab. And as the article said they work as shadow goverment and they work trough clan grievances and manipulating clan dynamics. The Somali goverment needs to present itself as a real goverment and take over security from Amisom. But when AMISOM kills Somalis without a word from the Somali gov then its understandable that people view that there is no Somali gov.
 
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Ras

It's all so tiresome
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How did this turn into Breitbart or Dailymail disparaging and blaming 80% of Al Shabaab on poor Bantus that just want to live their lives.

The main reason that Al Shabaab is primarily made out of Bantus is because they target poor youths with minimal affiliations to larger clans (foot soldiers) and don't see any future for themselves in Somalia.

Most Somalis have clans backing them when it comes to livelihood or marriage; Bantus can only rely on their direct kins or villages usually.

If someone has proof that the rapid rise in Bantu population is related with a nefarious Al Shabaab plot or a scheme concocted by the Somali Bantu high elder table to influence politics then I'd love to see that evidence.

We're stuck in Africa for the next 10 million years so let's not make enemies of 80% of the population there.
 
They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.
@embarassing
 
This is why Bantus will always be bad for Somalia. They have no ethnic loyalty to Somalia. They will do whatever to destroy the country.

The main Cushitic clans (Darod, Dir, Isaaq, Hawiye etc) have some loyalty to Somalia, but Bantus have zero of it.
Stop scapegoating and accept that Somalia became what it is today because of Somalis, and no one else.
 

I don't completely agree with the sister but she's right that most of AS foot soldiers now mostly consist of bantu and other poor and disenfranchised groups.

The leadership are Somali though and its when they completely lose Somali support, thats when they'll actually be destroyed.

How did this turn into Breitbart or Dailymail disparaging and blaming 80% of Al Shabaab on poor Bantus that just want to live their lives.

The main reason that Al Shabaab is primarily made out of Bantus is because they target poor youths with minimal affiliations to larger clans (foot soldiers) and don't see any future for themselves in Somalia.

Most Somalis have clans backing them when it comes to livelihood or marriage; Bantus can only rely on their direct kins or villages usually.

If someone has proof that the rapid rise in Bantu population is related with a nefarious Al Shabaab plot or a scheme concocted by the Somali Bantu high elder table to influence politics then I'd love to see that evidence.

We're stuck in Africa for the next 10 million years so let's not make enemies of 80% of the population there.

^ he explains it nicely here.

@Menelik III you're right some Somalis tend to always blame others and don't do much self-reflection. But you also downplay the effects of foreign meddling in Somalia.
You barwani mutt soo gal :mjlol:

its getting old.
 
They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.
not surprising since AS stay in jubas and surrounding lush areas, it's as if they want to annex it through shabaab. Similarly, Ethiopia does the same by putting their troops in baydabo.

@RasCanjero, she's not talking about the Somali Bantu, but the ones from Kenya/Tanzania/Uganda who want to slowly annex southern Somalia-Jubbaland in particular- And make it a part of Kenya. They do use some Somali Bantu (the ones who still have ties to Tanzania) some of them do it to get revenge.

@Odeg I think it's an Ethiopian organization but they recruit a large number of Kenyans/Ugandans in a scheme to annex Jubbaland stealthly

While I'm not for the blame game since many of Somali's problems start with envy and lack of foresight, you still need to be aware of people will would gladly take advantage of your downfall. It isn't scapegoating when it's true
 
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Ras

It's all so tiresome
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Stop scapegoating and accept that Somalia became what it is today because of Somalis, and no one else.

I'd put part of the blame on Ethiopia before blaming Bantu foot soldiers as the main cause.

Al Shabaab provides the perfect excuse for Ethiopia to intervene in Somalia as well as get a weekly counter-terrorism allowance from your current sugar daddy US.

It's also a weird coincidence that you guys remove your troops from certain regions just before sensitive periods like elections or UN meetings on Somalia. To someone like Inquisitive_ it would seem you're cooperating with Al kebab.

Not to forget that Al Shabaab really kicked off after you guys visited in 2006 and broke apart the Islamic court (a rational islamic based proto gov which were at least more patriotic than the TFG you guys also helped setup).

If it wasn't for Ethiopia's interferences we'd already have a government 10 years ago that was in charge of the nation's security and probably in the midst of planning how to conquer half of Ethiopia atm.
 
Myth making and scapegoating is
I'd put part of the blame on Ethiopia before blaming Bantu foot soldiers as the main cause.

Al Shabaab provides the perfect excuse for Ethiopia to intervene in Somalia as well as get a weekly counter-terrorism allowance from your current sugar daddy US.

It's also a weird coincidence that you guys remove your troops from certain regions just before sensitive periods like elections or UN meetings on Somalia. To someone like Inquisitive_ it would seem you're cooperating with Al kebab.

Not to forget that Al Shabaab really kicked off after you guys visited in 2006 and broke apart the Islamic court (a rational islamic based proto gov which were at least more patriotic than the TFG you guys also helped setup).

If it wasn't for Ethiopia's interferences we'd already have a government 10 years ago that was in charge of the nation's security and probably in the midst of planning how to conquer half of Ethiopia atm.
looking through this whole thread you guys do nothing but blame others. You're trying to convince yourself that Ethiopia created al Shabab but why would people litterally use themselves as bombs for another country? Ethiopia does play you guys like the backwards and hateful people that you're. I can't lie on that but it's not through al Shabab. It's through your hate for each other tribe, with links with every tribe it secures it's interests. Why does Ethiopia do this, maybe because you lots beg for land that will never belong to your country. I'm going to let you in on a secret, Ethiopia has and will continue to rule the Horn for time immortal.
 
This is why Bantus will always be bad for Somalia. They have no ethnic loyalty to Somalia. They will do whatever to destroy the country.

The main Cushitic clans (Darod, Dir, Isaaq, Hawiye etc) have some loyalty to Somalia, but Bantus have zero of it.
Don't forget the minor custite clans
 
looking through this whole thread you guys do nothing but blame others. You're trying to convince yourself that Ethiopia created al Shabab but why would people litterally use themselves as bombs for another country? Ethiopia does play you guys like the backwards and hateful people that you're. I can't lie on that but it's not through al Shabab. It's through your hate for each other tribe, with links with every tribe it secures it's interests. Why does Ethiopia do this, maybe because you lots beg for land that will never belong to your country. I'm going to let you in on a secret, Ethiopia has and will continue to rule the Horn for time immortal.


Alshabab is instrumental to destabilize Somalia and they live in SWS state which under control of Ethiopian forces(Amisom). Second alshabab is cash cow for Ethiopia/Kenya/Uganda which enable them to renew their armies and get the latest weapons for free from USA. I know that you are lander but I will go down to level.
 
How did this turn into Breitbart or Dailymail disparaging and blaming 80% of Al Shabaab on poor Bantus that just want to live their lives.

The main reason that Al Shabaab is primarily made out of Bantus is because they target poor youths with minimal affiliations to larger clans (foot soldiers) and don't see any future for themselves in Somalia.

Most Somalis have clans backing them when it comes to livelihood or marriage; Bantus can only rely on their direct kins or villages usually.

If someone has proof that the rapid rise in Bantu population is related with a nefarious Al Shabaab plot or a scheme concocted by the Somali Bantu high elder table to influence politics then I'd love to see that evidence.

We're stuck in Africa for the next 10 million years so let's not make enemies of 80% of the population there.



If you go the politics section you will see all these threads about their involvement in Somalia (al shabab). 1. Kenya invasion to Somalia on shady kidnapping story.
2. Kenyan army and trade with al shabab
3. Ugandan Amisom forces were put to trade last year for selling arms to alshabab
4. Al shabab controls villages under Ethiopian forces (Amisom)
5. Report about reasons of joining Bantu to al shabab for revenge on Somalis and liking to kill them.
There are more than that, but I can not summarize them now, the problem is that you don't follow Somali news for past 3 years. So, you will not understand what is going in Somalia. I suggest that you read about al shabab more and role of foreigners fighters there.
 
They will go when the Bantu leaves Somalia including the Amisom forces. Yes all shabab is Bantu organization where the Bantu are 75% of their soldiers. And the Somalis are small numbers in al shabab. Al shabab became for the Somali Bantu 's key to rule Somalia since the 0.5 Denys them any chances for them in politics. You never noticed that their propaganda videos are in Swahili language for their terrorists from Tanzania/Kenya/Uganda.
Blame the black Man ,eh ?:gucciwhat::ulyin::drakelaugh::susp::browtf::damn:
 
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