OPIUM KHAT
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somalis who complain about liberalism or feminism while they live in a western nation are so hypocritical its laughable
why do they do this?
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How are they hypocritical for voicing their opinion ?
Do you consider Cadaan people hypocrites as well, if they donβt believe in that ideology ? Because there is a lot of them.
These morons don't even appreciate the fact, that their hooyo (who probably raised them mostly), has access to money, jobs, and general freedoms thanks to the feminism they hate so much. If it wasn't for feminism they would be even more disenfranchised. Imagine hooyos coming here, and being sexually harassed, no access to banks and other important paper work, no right to vote, no right to an education etc, etc.
As for liberalism, it's the only reason why we have protections and rights. Or do they think right wing Cadaans are going to tolerate them.
It's always the dhaandhaan, low-achieving males, with mommy issues, who think they are Cadaan right wing men. I suggest a good look in the mirror and a basic education as treatment.
But Somalis and other immigrants DO believe in that ideology as long as it serves them, right.
As long as the checks clear, the welfare comes through, the social housing, the protections that shield women from sexual harassment, that give women a decent pay and all the other gifts that liberalism bestowed upon the immigrants?
Why can't people give thanks for all the benefits and then admit that they have to move to a Muslim country in the near future? Instead of being ungrateful and hostile to the only ideologies that have shielded them in the Western hemisphere.
Maybe immigrants in the diaspora, need to taste life under rightwing ideologies for a change, right wing + misogynist waliba. The Handmaiden's tale.
Why? Would you say the same when whites or Asians complain? Or other black people?
How is it hypocritical?
Pretty sure the majority of immigrants do in fact come from right wing countries/backgrounds. Just take a look at the most common countries of origin.
Just because they left doesnβt mean they disagree with the ideology that forced them to flee their country. Which is kind of hypocritical, because they still have that same mindset when they immigrate somewhere else.
Itβs like certain immigrants are unable to put two and two together and come to the conclusion that theyβre garbage extremist ideology is the reason their home country is a shithole.
Gacmeey
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I think this is a very disingenuous reply. Of course philosophical liberalism was responding to ills of a society before philosophical liberalism where the world lived under totalitarian Christianity but this does not mean we cannot critique it and point out the issues or rather itβs overreaction to the problem it was reacting to and the threat it poses to unaware Muslims.
Philosophical liberalism whether it be capitalism or communism or feminism or red pill all stems from the same source of enlightenment age European thinkers and we can criticise it and call it wrong and aim to replace with something closer to Islam.
Gacmeey
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I recommend people read Ugly freedoms which talks about John Lockeβs, the father of liberalism, ideas of liberty, freedom and autonomy which is extremely tied in to sugar plantations and racial slavery. Itβs basically theorising freedom and liberty for the white coloniser with things like the doctrine of discovery which says that you can take the land of non white peoples like Muslims. By the way Ruth Bader Ginsberg actually referenced the doctrine of discovery recently so there goes tolerance out the window. Most of these ideas are extremely unislamic with things like unequivocal self-ownership completely throwing Allahβs ownership out the window.
Most Muslims donβt know where slogans like βmy body my choiceβ or βthe hijab is my choiceβ come from and itβs from European thinkers like Hobbs, Locke and Kant. Itβs might be kufr because the body belongs to Allah and your only but a steward just like your money belongs to Allah and thatβs why the orphan and weak have A RIGHT ON YOU to give them the wealth Allah has given you.
Most Muslims donβt know where slogans like βmy body my choiceβ or βthe hijab is my choiceβ come from and itβs from European thinkers like Hobbs, Locke and Kant. Itβs might be kufr because the body belongs to Allah and your only but a steward just like your money belongs to Allah and thatβs why the orphan and weak have A RIGHT ON YOU to give them the wealth Allah has given you.
Why would any somali vote right wing?
Right wing parties these days exist simply to get the discussion on immigration moving. Nobody cares about the economy or other important issues, itβs just how can we get rid of X group asap.
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Gacmeey
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To achieve a political goal⦠Blindly voting for only one party is political immature. Muslims in America need to grow up politically and start learning how the game is played. Start partaking in the legalised bribery game, bribery is allowed when you are preserving your rights.
Apparently Linda McMahon got the secretary of education position for about 10 million dollars. Imagine muslims taking advantage of something like, that not necessarily of that scale, to get some political influence. Who cares if itβs right or left. Play both sides depending on who is good for you on that day
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For a multitude of reasons. Right wing parties are likelier to be tougher on crime. If you think you pay too much tax, right wing parties are likelier to reduce your tax contributions.
If you associate right wing parties with lower taxes, lower crime rates and a better economy then you have every reason to vote for them.
It's better to be engaging with left-wing political parties (becoming political donors, becoming a member) and influence it from within. Right-wing parties are a no go; you will end up eventually turning on your own community and other poc/ethnic minority communities.
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I feel like takes like this whenever I see them come off veryβand I mean no offense when I say thisβfoolish.
The answer is obvious. They went to those western countries because Somalia was destroyed by psychopathic loons who were bankrolled and supported by entities such as The US and Ethiopia and is to this day a poor and unstable country while those people and their proteges continue to loot the place. They flock to the west because their economies are comparatively very prosperous, there's a good social safety net and they're usually pretty safe when compared to somewhere like Xamar or even Bari and Woqooyi. They didn't remotely go for the "liberalism and feminism".
Everyone wants safety, an economic future for their progeny and a comfortable place to sleep and eat, saaxiib. They'd flock to politically repressive China if it was as economically prosperous for the average person as The States and offered citizenship. It's disingenuous to frame it like they came to the west for the liberalism and feminism. We both know they didn't. They went for the economies which largely have nothing to do with social issues like how "liberal" a country is.
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