Why is Politics Dangerous

[DR OSMAN]

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[DR OSMAN]

Noone here ever talks about why this field or whatever you want to term it, has so much pain and killings and the worst of humanity through-out history and now. More people die under this then any other aspect of humanity. What makes a person walk up with a gun to the back of your head while your drinking tea? It's disturbing questions that we don't even talk about, so how can you prepare or understand what politics is about if you don't know the rules?

That is just a mere MP or parliamentarian or congress man whatever you wanna call it. He is comparable to a section manager in an organization, just bringing a team together, where-as mp is representing a team in his land.

I noticed the front line or the highest end of politics(ministers and president) aren't touched at all, kinda like the general of an army is left last also, same with a CEO. They killing him in the inside and his capabilities or redesigning his inside and hence the pieces falling aren't them, their left for last.

The reason I suspect is, even if you kill president, ceo, ministers or any of the front line they can just name a new one and everything under and holding it together is still intact.

No wonder trump is tough on leakers, traitors, etc. There is a pattern of this even in somalia it's not the front line going, their attacking the bloc behind front line and reorganizing it towards the qatari or uae side.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's unlikely a minister or president is killed nowadays, their going for his inside and his networks behind him and making him a lone wolf in the end in the wilderness. Their all organizing who will be in the ear of the president, ministers, etc. Trump is probably cleaning up house inside and finding out who is providing policy advice and their PROBABLY watched to see who is influencing them. The enemy wants to penetrate different enemies by having someone provide policy drafts in their vision. Their attacking him on the PAPER.

Thats why trump cleaned up automatically on all obama left overs. They would attack thru policy advice and that's just domestic, imagine the foreign hands involved also. Those policy advisors are usually MARKED by intelligence guys is my bet and SCHMOOZLED. It makes sense now why TRUMP DEMANDED LOYALTY, your allegiance or the schmoozling domestic or foreigners do to your team can give him bad advice. But he seems to ask for the result at the end which cuts it all out, rather then just accepting what is given.

That jerusalem embassy is prime example, if you schmoozled the right person dealing with that, you cud secure israeli companies on the ground a big gig, trump cut em half way thru and said whats the cost(end result focus on all matters) and then they got exposed.

That's all he can do is ask them to provide the end result of what their suggesting this should cut half the influenced crap on it's knees. When stuff gets influenced its harder to prove the end result is in the benefit or direction of the president, it gets cut on its knees like jerusalem embassy 1 billion cost, alot of lined up israeli firms must of cried how cheap they coulda done it and securd 1 billion for it.

It's like me, I have Puntland bias but if I was asked to prove end result of my advice for say GIVE PUNTLAND BILLIONS, I cant prove it sxb, cuz the governance is weak and will fall in the wrong hands. But for security DEFINITELY PROVABLE. Anything related to DEALS AROUND SECURITY AND POLITICS I CAN DEFINITELY BACK THAT UP AS RELIABLE PARTNER FOR PUNTLAND and know the end result firmly.

 

[DR OSMAN]

If PL took governance as serious as it does federalism, anti terrorism, and security treaties and pact that it honors for 30 years, It would be the easiest sell for me to make it NO 1 in somalia. But they aint given ppl much to work with around institutions and governance, it's failing horrendously.

Going through the UN for projects is best for the west in that region, it will just get lost in 'invisible' hands through the process, low quality work so they deck more money for themselves, lining up tribal clicks or political allies they want to secure. Puntland must hang it's head in shame regarding it's governance, noone can do much for them in that respect.

But when it comes to weapons, intelligence, dump it all in puntland, those boys dont like moving regardless if they have an edge or not, they dont like to cut deals using the war-hand. I can safely say it is the worst decision to dump military gear into somaliland or mogadishu, those boys uses the war hand and history has proven itself countless time and the present. They dont sign deals nor honor it not knowing what that could mean to it's own security.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Saudi and Dubai boys are building bases in territory that will switch to ikhwan who are anti federalism like SL, they already home shabab who agreed hey u aint getting recognized by the UN, you gotta better shot to join us as get red of the western-ethio-khaleej boys. Such a bad move having a base there as they walk in an take it over and SL kicks them out when it gets what it want.

Plus PL aint gonna switch at all, it saw wat brotherhood had for them in cairo conference TWO HAWIYE presidents and it knows it wants STRONG MOG and weak regions notice farmajo at the top of mayors below pictures. Eliminate saudi-uae-ethio TRUE partner hand and weaken it so they have no influence and told your just a mayor role in this nation, you can't get involved foreign policy decisions and they lose their foreign policy hand the whole click supporting federalism local and overseas.

But PL doesn't want the base that's the problem, we need to find the next closest thing and that's JUBBALAND as it was created with the same principles of puntland with elders holding up the govt and the govt just a mouth piece and insure the deal with the elders and then cermonially with jubaland president. They need to move to Kismayo to saudis, uae, not be in muslim brotherhood territory that's unpredictable like mogadishu or a secessionist somaliland who will swing towards them if given their political demands or a north south deal which is what they REALLY WANT. While 90 districts of somalia are just mayors and mog and hargeisa are the boss with one foreign policy guy behind them the brotherhood and it's axis turkey, qatar, egypt.

 

[HarunFPL]

I hate politics, i guess geopolitics is kinda fun but meh

 

[Karbashhhh]

Listen there is only mogadishu and hargeisa. Stop comparing tulos to these places. Jubaland doesn’t exist. It constitutionally cannot work middle juba is populated by peoples that completely don’t want it jamaame baardheer luq are also anti jubaland. Marexaan will be controlled like dhulbahante are now and given scraps. Majeerteen will be left in their desert. It’s already been proven they have no oil and it’s in somaliland so the future is bleak.

 

[Sheikh]

Listen there is only mogadishu and hargeisa. Stop comparing tulos to these places. Jubaland doesn’t exist. It constitutionally cannot work middle juba is populated by peoples that completely don’t want it jamaame baardheer luq are also anti jubaland. Marexaan will be controlled like dhulbahante are now and given scraps. Majeerteen will be left in their desert. It’s already been proven they have no oil and it’s in somaliland so the future is bleak.

Lol at calling Jubaland a ''tuulo'' you old oday.

Marehan will actually control their state Jubalanad in 2019.

Ogaden will be like Dhulbahante and take orders from Marehan.

Or they will go back to DDSI and NFD.

I don't think you know Southern politics to well to be talking there.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I hate politics, i guess geopolitics is kinda fun but meh

I don't like it either, it's very dangerous. But it's amazing how complex the third world alone is and you actually got something to work with as their is dead bodies available to assess. It would be far more complex in western, china, russia, cuz it's very clean and a starting point would be very difficult.

You got the centralists(brotherhood and independents) depends with the independents like farmajo and khayre and many more as I would say they are the big bloc in parliament and have good intentions most of the time but due to getting support from these brotherhood parties who own a huge bloc like 100 or so seats in parliament nearly half.

They never get killed, it's always federalist targetted as it's western backed nor are secessionists. They then hook up with the secessionist and say hey you aint getting nothing from the west on your policy, lets work together and eliminate the federalist who is backed western.

Bang SL is in, houses shabab and says operate boys and good luck while smiling to ethio-khaleej-west and working the official channels. Gets on tv reiterates his hate for regions and only knows mogadishu(centralist) view which the ikhwan lap up and say thats our boy. We want a centralist vision too weaken the regions and western and khaleej and ethio click and says your asses tuulo and mayors lol and we do the big stuff loooooool.

Then you got shabab doing the dirty work targetting western backed boys on ground ONLY noone else in the death toll but them and it dont matter what clan you are if you federal or western policy, you going down. SL begins encroach on SSC to secure north, sends shabab into galgala like dahir aways and aideed operated in the 90s, one working the religious areas and another tribal areas in a dual combat approach.

Then these assholes secure an independent so the world thinks it's an independent face on there and welcome and cheer his ass on while they operate the inside the ikhwan parties getting key portfolios to pass on shabab what the ENEMY is up too to faciliate them. Then steps in bakaraha boys and their like damn we dont want peace here at all cuz we will get competitors and boom passes taxes to shabab and says I AM BEING THREATENED thru sms(staged) of course to hide relationship. Rinse and repeat centralists then perform an internal attack on regions to re-shape it with one of their own lackeys using qatari cash. SL uses western cash to get ssc leaders.

End result lock north down, lock the south down, talk as equal partners on 1960 approach with mog and hargeisa at top and all the rest as mayors. Noone escapes because it aint tribal its a sacad muse and abgal thang, the rest will switch to partnership roles and be discarded constantly like hy, hj, for sacad muse and abgal will switch around with mj, marehan while other hawiye isolated. Other isaaq isolated.

Then step in foreigners qatar-turkey-egypt the click secured somalia, reduced western backed boys into mayor roles and decide who comes and goes here and ensure the shipping lane can be used to leverage the west in areas of active operation in mid-east or other islamic nations. Somalia begins transforming neighbors into neutral positions to cut western hands in the regions, then mb keeps moving thru the 57 nation and rinse n repeat with the cultural and divisions of each land being assesed carefully to see how they can mix match to reach a deal.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM CALIPHATE IS BACK. Begin rebuilding inside of each caliphate territory, align with anti western nations to perform other blows on the alliance and break them into pieces and eat it all up one by one.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@HarunFPL it's strange how complex just the 3rd world is and that's damn somalia bro, you know the nation who does the worst on every measurable human index and that's what their politics looks like and the confusion and layers added thru federalists-centralists vs their foreign backers and the tactics of each with internal reshuffles occurring to realign right idealogy as per foreigner requests.

Then you got the tactics of shabab which is another complex matter how their targetting the right enemy and their getting checked in the air by america. Then you got islamists in suits smiling in diplomacy situation around the world in the west and saying terrorism is so evil, we have one god, and we are at peace with the world. Then they all converge in qatar for cash, retirement like atam and hamas leader, all political boys go to egypt and turkey and they take off all their costumes used. One using charity like turks, one cashing up inside politics, egypt idealogical techniques and tactics, shabab al qaeda and all the armed boys take off their guns and like 'good work boys' we worked them fucker over well didn't we and the laughs going on that they thought their all not friends.

That's 3rd world, scary trump the world he is dealing with not a nice position to have as an american president, imagine what the 2nd or 1st world looks like and the capabilities they have is FAR MORE SOPHISTICATED THEN 3RD world sewer rats.

 

[DR OSMAN]

No wonder Trump hates all these fakers playing games in the world stage, he knows whats going on sxb lol. The brotherhood is like this.

It's a gangster party in qatar as they come in dropping guns, suits costume, turkey charity suit, egypt idealogical academics, economic actors like business men controlling lifelines, and toast up HALAL STYLE OF COURSE LOOOOOOOOL. How do we know they are one? cause they dont kill each other.

Oh yeah secessionist if you get your north/south deal or secession they will want you to abadon west, ethio, khaleej which im sure u will loooooooool so come and sit on the table as PARTNER and they must do that also in other nations seeing ppl who dont like the recognized policies.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I wouldn't mind PL being at the table, I do like their long-term strategy, it's brilliant and so hard to see patterns in. It's basically invisible with so many hands and tactics used from suits, cash, academic, terrorists, charities, finding partners who share a common enemy, internal reshuffling, realigning western players for their puppet, eating up independents who aren't aligned, using terrorists in bomb and assasinations of opponent western backed guys, business men head into nations economic lifelines and start buying it out, head into universities and be the sole investor to pump out caliphate minds and future party members. END GOAL ALL THE SAME BETWEEN THEM. AN ISLAMIC STATE and they carefully watch not to touch each other but condemn each other on the news and in front of westerners and partners.

That's all the tactics I see, their probably hidden ones I don't, it's a good internal strategy to reshape a nation and brilliant, depends obviously on the executor and players also not all are good like hassan sheikh, ina qasim, etc. Not high grade player types. I wish PL could go and side with them but we know their gonna make us mayors deep down, they did in cairo conference having 2 hawiye president so the south is under hawiye, not a peep out of secessionist as the south started taking the shape of 1960's looooooool all that changed when abdillahi walked away and 2002 attacks started over SSC. Erigavo was settled HY confirmed federalist as they wanted the north south deal with TUUR so hy is main partner of the USC in mog but lost and now it's jeegaan and ikhwan in mog.

Same principles only geopolitics changed from warlord to islamism as islamism was the cash cow supply after 2000. HY split and said yo YEY we in the camp, go get the others in the nations our project failed and in wrong hands in SL. Erigavo left alone in peace. Battle for SSC and they threw in tribal jambal by secessionist so they forget their core uniting factor lets not be mayors asshole. YEY forget it he said, lets secure the rest of the south and come back to it later in north as long HY is there it's safe.

Then tribal jambals thrown up again like ethiopian tanks, too many presidents, the west is stealing our resources, independents all angry and swinging to ikhwan thru propaganda in elections. Parliament designed with 50% going to ikhwan dir and hawiye, their not all ikhwan but better chance to fool into irirism and hawiyenimo and all that crap.

YEY steps in and says 90 districts shud unite against this 2 town project, raise ya guns boy and lets take it back. Head should be small body big like america, DC small, regions huge and power. Yey thought it would work to unite 90 districts but too many jambals thrown into their camp to get them to steer off their common good.

 

[Shushue]

Some countries are ruled by technocrats and you don’t have to engage in politics because it’s managed by professionals.

While other countries vote rulers based on persona and charisma who promote reckless policies.

I know that the Norwegian government listens to professionals that’s why a leftist government isn’t different from a right wing.

That’s why I have time enough to focus on the world.

 

[AarLibaax]

You lost me at when you said you had a Puntland bias

For your information this form of a Federalism you confirmed you just are "biased" towards will not last.
Nor Saudi, UAE or Qatar will have a military base anywhere on Somali soil, that ship has sailed.
Puntland, Somaliland, Jubaland, SouthWestLand, Galmudug Land, HirshablleLand these fantasy cartels are dying out in front of our Own eyes.

2 Clan Nation States resorted to selling National or if your into that my qabiil trap your qabiils Assets for pennies on the dollar. Kenyan/Ethiopian Occopied Jubaland is so broke they burn the very trees to fight the drought or flood , so that an Arab can have his shisha on demand.

South West , Galmudug, and Hiirshabele although almost entirely disfunctional, have the same ambitions that secessionist Somaliland, Semi-seccionist Puntland have thus far shown.

The Duo of Farmaajo & Kheyre have ended the dream.
Its only been a year, and boy the cabaad coming from the Cartel Kingpins has been astonishing.
Saudi, UAE, Ethiopia, Kenya, Qatar, all these second and 3rd rate beta countries will be taught a lesson in Foreign Policy, and the "Mayor" or 1/4 Mogadishu or President of Somalia Farmaajo will Win

 

[DR OSMAN]

Shabab uses different clans to carry out executions so it stirs up tribal beef and fractures the federalist camp, so many jambals but the point is crumble the federalist along tribal lines while you work to make somalia so unoperating under federalism they have to decide on policy switch till then realign the federalist regions to ikhwan ordered boys or independents who want presidency so bad in their regions will sell their souls to the devil in return. Cry to the independents ethio dividing us, west stealing from us, put farmajo head at top and mayors below to bring back 1960 arrangement. Big head thats about to blow up and skinny body, untenable design, the body must be SO FAT and the head adjusted small. Hargeisa and Mog should be limited powers and states huge powers in real state building. Then even the states need to be designed who is the heart? definitely puntland. The body is all battered up(the regions) and the brain has cancer(centralist, ikhwan, shababis, federalist all fighting for supreme) with foreign backers.

The scary part about that is, it's in the most failed nation in the world this sort of game is happening, we haven't even reached spying capabilities, hacking, and god knows what else they do in the other nations. This just purely human based capabilities.

 

[Shushue]

I wouldn't mind PL being at the table, I do like their long-term strategy, it's brilliant and so hard to see patterns in. It's basically invisible with so many hands and tactics used from suits, cash, academic, terrorists, charities, finding partners who share a common enemy, internal reshuffling, realigning western players for their puppet, eating up independents who aren't aligned, using terrorists in bomb and assasinations of opponent western backed guys, business men head into nations economic lifelines and start buying it out, head into universities and be the sole investor to pump out caliphate minds and future party members. END GOAL ALL THE SAME BETWEEN THEM. AN ISLAMIC STATE and they carefully watch not to touch each other but condemn each other on the news and in front of westerners and partners.

That's all the tactics I see, their probably hidden ones I don't, it's a good internal strategy to reshape a nation and brilliant, depends obviously on the executor and players also not all are good like hassan sheikh, ina qasim, etc. Not high grade player types. I wish PL could go and side with them but we know their gonna make us mayors deep down, they did in cairo conference having 2 hawiye president so the south is under hawiye, not a peep out of secessionist as the south started taking the shape of 1960's looooooool all that changed when abdillahi walked away and 2002 attacks started over SSC. Erigavo was settled HY confirmed federalist as they wanted the north south deal with TUUR so hy is main partner of the USC in mog but lost and now it's jeegaan and ikhwan in mog.

Same principles only geopolitics changed from warlord to islamism as islamism was the cash cow supply after 2000. HY split and said yo YEY we in the camp, go get the others in the nations our project failed and in wrong hands in SL. Erigavo left alone in peace. Battle for SSC and they threw in tribal jambal by secessionist so they forget their core uniting factor lets not be mayors asshole. YEY forget it he said, lets secure the rest of the south and come back to it later in north as long HY is there it's safe.

Then tribal jambals thrown up again like ethiopian tanks, too many presidents, the west is stealing our resources, independents all angry and swinging to ikhwan thru propaganda in elections. Parliament designed with 50% going to ikhwan dir and hawiye, their not all ikhwan but better chance to fool into irirism and hawiyenimo and all that crap.

YEY steps in and says 90 districts shud unite against this 2 town project, raise ya guns boy and lets take it back. Head should be small body big like america, DC small, regions huge and power. Yey thought it would work to unite 90 districts but too many jambals thrown into their camp to get them to steer off their common good.

I don’t know what you see at PL, it’s poor mismanaged state where youth are fleeing. It’s engaged in a war nobody knows when it ends. The living standard hasn’t moved for so long. It’s a pretty depressing place.

I know you’re wadani but atleast admit it’s an ugly place.

 

[DR OSMAN]

When they use the ethio dividing us or the gulf, the objective is lets trust mogadishu with all the power and disempower 90 degmos so the goal of southern controlled mogadishu is achieved for its foreign backer and local centralists are LIKE WE WON guul. We own all the tribes in the south and now lets wait sacad muse to bring all waqoyi under it like we did the south. They will play similar role to the regions of the south like they do in the north the hy, dhulos, waros even even HJ who can be discarded when not needed or sacad muse feel its time to use hy to calm things down. But it all centers around hargeisa the rest are EXPENDABLE. Same with Mog all centers around them and all rest expendable. Which means foreign backers are expended if the local player is out of the mix.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I don’t know what you see at PL, it’s poor mismanaged state where youth are fleeing. It’s engaged in a war nobody knows when it ends. The living standard hasn’t moved for so long. It’s a pretty depressing place.

I know you’re wadani but atleast admit it’s an ugly place.

I love Abdillahi Yusuf, the guys was fuckin genius sxb. It's just the jambals and propaganda on centralist side got so high to swing independent and old school somalis to their side as they saw ethiopia rolling in as if they want islamist next door regardless if he is secessionist, centralist or weak federalist. Then tribal shit thrown in locally to stir the pot between 90 regions who shouldnt have any disagreements about not being mayors and weak in 2 city state but they did so they did a good job this click who is a small segment of the population only 5% at tops compared to 90% who are in regions. Its only 100 or so in parliament, simad university, a few in bakaraha, a few around somaliland shared common enemy relationship with centralist and i would call them centralist also as they want to centralize waqoyi also.

When someone speaks with hearts on his sleeves, I LISTEN that's the closest the truth in politics. He was brilliant strategist bro but he stepped up into office and he wasnt a good sell cause truthful ppl arent liked, look at trump. We need to pick a hawiye with erdogan traits to win the hearts on the ground with their nice words and rousing speeches.

Somalia issues are not TRIBAL also it's just 2 cities wanting to control 90 towns for it's benefit, where-as 90 towns want more power then 2 cities in america style arrangment body strong, capitals weak like DC. Then foreign backers align to whoever is against the other side of their foreign policy, hence ethio-khaleej-west align with federalist boys as their the opposite of the centralist boy who are backed by guess who qatar-turkey-egypt and all those boys who want mog as the strong one and regions mayors. Then step in all the tactics being used to reshape the head and body to their side as they pull it apart and re put it together to how they want. SL is only the exception but it has more in common with centralist then federalist hence why they dont speak about mamul gobols and hate it. They are centralist based approach with hargeisa as the head and they want the same in mog, they united a long time ago only geopolitics changed and backers nothing else.

Shame west is involved there, unreliable partner and must be dumped immediately and let them go to the centralist which they already are cause if u wont recognize them they have no choice but to go to bed with your opponent.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ethio-khaleej-west cannot hold a federal policy that is good for 90 districts and accomodate a secessionist in hargeisa at the same time, it's conflict of interest. He will side with whoever gives him what he wants and he will go to bed with terrorists as observed with shabab activities there. Plus they share alot in common strong mog with south under it means a strong hargeisa with all north under it.

Plus west has a hand in mogadishu too which is a shame, MOG is lost to centralist and brotherhood foreign backers, why waste anymore resources, re-camp back in PL is their best bet and formulate a strategy to develop only PL and 90 districts of somalia not mogadishu or hargeisa so ppl don't see it as good, you dont see turks going to your supporters in somalia in PL or JL or any region for that matter do you? noone builds an enemy only the west does. Clowns.

Infact I would support an injection of western projects away from PUNTLAND see how I am not biased because I would prefer the 90 districts of somalia to eat well and unite with us against this 2 city qabyalad shit that's happening. I believe in strategies that will make my federalist vision will win even if it means PL has to sacrifice.

 

[DR OSMAN]

All the ethio-khaleej-west need to say to mogadishu is dipliomatically we prefer to see a strong body in somalia as all states should be and their are already active partners assisting mogadishu and we would like our resources redirected to the regions. That's it. They don't even need to add to it. At least your building a team up of 90 districts who have every reason to unite plus see good results on the ground from it's foreign backers to break this small click holding the nation hostage.