why the hate for the emirates?

[HoodHawiye]

Could some explain to me why so many posters on this forum do seem to hate the United Arab Emirates?
The Emirates do quite a bit for the motherland. I am not saying we need to be slavish towards the United Arab Emirates, but i am saying that ingratitude is an awful trait to have and could partially explain why we cannot build a stable society.
"Furthermore, Somalia depends heavily on economic aid and assistance from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arad Emirates, with the former offering a US$70 million grant, in addition to selling its oil at rock bottom prices. Following Somalia’s independence from Italy (and Britain in the north, in what now forms Somaliland), Somalia continued to assert itself within the greater Islamic world, a process that was evident in the mandates and articles presented by Somalia’s First Prime Minister, Abdullahi Issa (Tenure: 1956-1960)."
Source: https://insidearabia.com/somalias-arab-affinity-exacerbates-internal-clan-strife/

 

[bidenkulaha]

Because they had a very anti-Farmaajo policy given he was a Qatar ally.

 

[HoodHawiye]

Because they had a very anti-Farmaajo policy given he was a Qatar ally.

yes each man has complete right to criticize the policy or any other policy taken by anyone, but there is no place for gratitude in hatred and we owe them some gratitude for the good they have done

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Emirates are cucks and dogs who support Kenya in the maritime dispute and are against sanctions being lifted in Somalia. They are an enmeny to us but friends to both Kenya and Ethiopia. It makes zero sense to like them just because they hated farmajo. Qatar supports Shabab and I could be critical of them as well.

 

[Odious Delirium]

None of these gulf states are doing anything for us solely off goodwill. They are trying to takeover and assist our neighbours again us aswell as give conditional support in the first place if we don't do as they wish. So we don't need them. They are forcing there "goodwill" on us for more benefits in return.

Us remaining a failed state is in there best interests so they try and hold us back as much as they can. They don't deserve any gratitude.

 

[TekNiKo]

Emirates are the worst country, Somalia could ally with, their very survival hinges on Somalia being a failed state due to our strategic location. Our multiple ports could threaten Dubai’s port lifeline who always sold herself as the “conduit of the Middle East”.

Lets not forget our massive oil resources which quadruple theirs. Wa xaasid

 

[Hamzarashid]

Why do I hate UAE well it has to with yemen genocide. In a lesser reason I feel like they would BE geopolitic rival and will hinder the future of somalia. As oil is becoming less of a commodity in future UAE is pivoting to becoming a strong maritime power as it made agreement with somaliland in 2016 to manage the port of berbera which is near the Bab al-Mandeb, a major sea-lane through which almost one-third of the world’s shipping passes. Lastly I would say I'm not fan of the clouding seeding as it well known that it can cause drought I wouldn't be suprise if it the reason why somalia is facing unprecedented about droughts.

 

[HoodHawiye]

Emirates are cucks and dogs who support Kenya in the maritime dispute and are against sanctions being lifted in Somalia. They are an enmeny to us but friends to both Kenya and Ethiopia. It makes zero sense to like them just because they hated farmajo. Qatar supports Shabab and I could be critical of them as well.

if i have to be honest with you it seems quite cucked for somalia to accept charity from, as you call them, "an enmeny"

None of these gulf states are doing anything for us solely off goodwill. They are trying to takeover and assist our neighbours again us aswell as give conditional support in the first place if we don't do as they wish. So we don't need them. They are forcing there "goodwill" on us for more benefits in return.

Us remaining a failed state is in there best interests so they try and hold us back as much as they can. They don't deserve any gratitude.

how is giving us cheap oil making us a failed state. we cannot keep blaming our problems on the outside world.. we need to look within for answers and strength.. i believe part of this is cultivating good virtues.. like gratitude

Why do I hate UAE well it has to with yemen genocide. In a lesser reason I feel like they would BE geopolitic rival and will hinder the future of somalia. As oil is becoming less of a commodity in future UAE is pivoting to becoming a strong maritime power as it made agreement with somaliland in 2016 to manage the port of berbera which is near the Bab al-Mandeb, a major sea-lane through which almost one-third of the world’s shipping passes. Lastly I would say I'm not fan of the clouding seeding as it well known that it can cause drought I wouldn't be suprise if it the reason why somalia is facing unprecedented about droughts.

I must of course mention as well tho that another good virtue is sympathy for the ummah.. and it is awful to see what is happening in yemen.. this is a good thing to remind us all of and i appreciate that you have done so.. perhaps they do deserve hate.. but in this case.. somalia should refuse to buy oil at this charitable rate..

 

[Odious Delirium]

how is giving us cheap oil making us a failed state. we cannot keep blaming our problems on the outside world.. we need to look within for answers and strength.. i believe part of this is cultivating good virtues.. like gratitude

Bro they conspire with Kenya against us and al shabbab literally trade off our raw goods to Kenya for weps to kill more somalis for chump change. I understand gratitude to turkey for example who have shown actual support but the gulf states have tried to punish us for not siding with them in injustice and have revoked acts of "goodwill"

 

[Aurelian]

Because they had a very anti-Farmaajo policy given he was a Qatar ally.

UAE was shit overall.
it went to buy a big asset without FGS, and when Somalia protested since it has de Jure of the whole country, they said: since when Somalia controlled anything outside of Xamar. Meaning they can exploit country without any restrictions. Even Kenya and Other Countries asked Somalia’s Gov before doing anything to get legitimacy. Anyway all that Solved after secret meetings

 

[HoodHawiye]

Bro they conspire with Kenya against us and al shabbab literally trade off our raw goods to Kenya for weps to kill more somalis for chump change. I understand gratitude to turkey for example who have shown actual support but the gulf states have tried to punish us for not siding with them in injustice and have revoked acts of "goodwill"

i am unfamiliar with the evidence that the emirates are conspiring with al-shabab, but i am familiar with the claim, i have tried to do some research but i found too much noise and not enough signal, could you guide me towards some proofs?

 

[FBIsomalia]

UAE its great ally to Somalia

 

[Odious Delirium]

i am unfamiliar with the evidence that the emirates are conspiring with al-shabab, but i am familiar with the claim, i have tried to do some research but i found too much noise and not enough signal, could you guide me towards some proofs?

The illegal charcoal trade from Kenya to the Gulf States | FairPlanet

Behind a flourishing illegal charcoal business in Somalia is a complex network of an Islamist terrorist group, the Kenyan military and the Gulf States.

www.fairplanet.org

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/12/report-kenyan-military-in-business-with-al-shabab/

Kenyan army profiting from illicit trade that props up al-Shabaab

Kenyan Defence Forces angrily rejects report suggesting it taxes the $400 million illegal sugar and charcoal trades that sustain al-Shabaab in Somalia while fighting the terror group at the same time

www.telegraph.co.uk

The Kenyan army is accused of running a sugar-smuggling racket with Somali terrorists

The army denies splitting the profits of a $400m smuggling industry with al-Qaeda's east African branch

www.economist.com

The Kenyan military working with Al shabaab is confirmed and the gulf states support Kenya in everything that involves being anti somali from the maritime dispute to them voting against somalia not getting there arms embargoes lifted alongside Kenya.

And that whole money drop thing that was caught by farmajo when they dropped off money for al shabbab and when they were asked about were this money was going they retaliated by shutting down hospitals they built for daring to question about what they were planing to do within our borders.

Oh by the way the current president showed a lot of gratitude and handed there money back to them and visited Kenya and the gulf states first to apologies for the "transgression" of his predecessor when he got in power.

These countries only thrive at our expense a somalia with a strong government will lose them a lot of money and they have grow to conformable with how somalia currently is so they simply can't afford to let somalia get up because it will only effect them negatively.

Our only good allies are the turks other than them the rest have blades at our necks and want to keep us down. Turkey actually needs stronger allies and connections into Africa so they simply gain more from a stronger somalia. Which is why there help is actually helpful because for them it's an actual investment.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

if i have to be honest with you it seems quite cucked for somalia to accept charity from, as you call them, "an enmeny"

Aid is worse than Aids for a starving nation. They bring in expired goods and put it into the currupt market knowingly so that we take local productions and exports to the ground. They do the same in Yemen and Libya in which they also bomb considering the two have it worse than us, aid is there way of making money of off charity organizations and using statistics as a means to wash their sins. Question their foreign policy? They go straight to the aid they provide which in all essence is a pyramid scheme in which they solely benefit.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

They pay people to shit on them, they are trying to colonize Somalia and have succeeded in parts of Somalia.

 

[InaShaqalle]

They pay people to shit on them, they are trying to colonize Somalia and have succeeded in parts of Somalia.

Would you not welcome UAE helping Gedo against both HAG and Ahmed Madobe administration?

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Would you not welcome UAE helping Gedo against both HAG and Ahmed Madobe administration?

I would enslave Xaarwaadle if it was lord of the flies scenario.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

United arab emirate a great friend of puntland may allah blessed them

 

[InaShaqalle]

United arab emirate a great friend of puntland may allah blessed them

Sierra Leonean miyaad tahay waryaa lol

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Dubai is the main supply line for Somalis in the horn we shouldn’t be throwing rocks at them.