Y’all need to stop calling the Galbeed “Ogadenia”

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Yellow is Darod not Ogaden. And this is quite an old map

Everywhere thats incorrect favors Darood clans mostly being Ogaden. Jareèrweyn and Sheekhaal are the only exceptions and it is minuscule.

We never gave it that name I’m pretty sure it was the Aidthopians or Europeans that named it that. If y’all are allowed to make threads about women you will never f*ck in NSFW then I’m allowed to make a thread discussing the name of the region my ancestors are native too.

Then why is it I have never seen anyone make a Dire Dhabe thread just say you want the little clout for your clan nobody respects a fake Anti-clannist

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I have never Attaked the Ogaden as a tribe. I talked about how the name of the region is problematic. I don’t have to disclose my tribe name to you please leave and take your qabilist ass back to to Tribal Council ADEER.

again, I am not your adeer, we are not even the same bloody people, if you are not Darood, then we meet at Nabi Adam AS, , just like we do with Ahmar and Mongolians and irish,

and you are the tribalist one, funny how a person who starts a tribalist thread and bashes an entire clan calls people clannist when she/he was the one who threw the first rock,

cry me a river, your a tribalist and i just proved how tribalist you are, you dont see me creating an entire thread bashing a clan that fights alone with a gaalo enemy,

anyways, wish you a good day, stay away from insulting or bashing my people and i will stay away from you

 

[Farjano-Walad]

it’s not a competition, I know they are your brothers but I’ve met way more galbeed jidwaaqs than og ones
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Funny how you claim isaaq or dir, way way older than Ogaden, yet you think you can turn our brothers and royal family Jidwaq against us when they are Absame?

dude are you even aware Jidwaq is Ogadens older brother?

you failed sxb, you actually thought you will turn my oldest brother and the family head and royal kings of Absame against us?

yet you have the audacity to claim dir or isaaq as one big umbrella name but wish to divide Absame ?

 

[Zenith]

again, I am not your adeer, we are not even the same bloody people, if you are not Darood, then we meet at Nabi Adam AS, , just like we do with Ahmar and Mongolians and irish,

 

[Farjano-Walad]

its true as my father would say, if they are not Darood, we met them in terms of abtir with nabi Adam, and no different than an Irish or a ahmaar or a Chinese

 

[Marquis]

again, I am not your adeer, we are not even the same bloody people, if you are not Darood, then we meet at Nabi Adam AS, , just like we do with Ahmar and Mongolians and irish

Teeri is too funny wallah

 

[Gardy]

Even if they are, Jidwaq is Absame, Ogadens older brother and royal family of the Absame Kumade race

@Khalid ali how are you my Garad/ Arch Duke ?

My the Absame Empire Reign since our first King, King Wiil Waal The Great - the first Somali official king

Funny, how Absame is so much younger than Dir/Isaaq and all other qashin in here moaning yet they think they can try to split Jidwaq and Ogaden, nice try langabs

Jidwaq and Absame have statues and road and school names that straddle around Xamar, king wiil waal, sayidka, xawo tako, raage ugaas, qamaan bulxaan built in 1960 to celebrate Somalia's independence , -

there literally is no somali history with out Absame Kumade history,

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How is absame much younger than Isaaq when your abtirsi is much longer than that of isaaq which is only 20 generations on average, almost the same age as maxamad subeer and further more your lineage has alot of WAAQ inside it indicating that your your lineage is established probably way before islam being introduced.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

How is absame much younger than Isaaq when your abtirsi is much longer than that of isaaq which is only 20 generations on average, almost the same age as maxamad subeer and further more your lineage has alot of WAAQ inside it indicating that your your lineage is established probably way before islam being introduced.

Waaq does not mean its old, its juts a old somali word for God, like Eebe, like how the anceint Semitics used El-, Elahi, Deus for romans and greeks, Al, Rab, Rabi, in Canaanite etc, it just a old word for God or Lord,

sawaqroon, Mj sub clan, much much much younger than isaaq by miles, Cabudwaq, Ogaden sub clan, much much younger than isaaq, does not mean they are old

Isaaq is at the level of darood, much much older than Ogaden, just because they are not as numerous as darood doe snot make them young, not our fault they are small in numbers,

Age has nothing to do with how big a clan is, reer cabdulle is much much younger than many OG clans yet massively outnumbers them, same with Umar Muxammud for example much younger than many harti, Mj and even darood clans like marehan, awrtable yet massively outnumbers those,

Isaaq is much much older than Absame sxb, isaaq sub clans were fighting in the ahmed gurey wars and mentioned yet Moahmed zubeer walk walking on the earth as himself and his father when isaaq sub clans for example were mention as fighting force mohamed zubeer was in his still learning dugsi , he was a kid

 

[Gardy]

Kulaha 3 gobals,

saxib you are mistaken,

let me educate you bro

Ogadeniya is 11 provinces:

Shaniley /Sitti is Ciise majority - and small other dir cousins of ciise

Libaan is garre and Dagodia majority

Afhdeer is pure Cawlyahan Ogaden

Godey/is Talamoge Ogaden - thats cabdalla, cabduwaq, reer mohahmed and you have Ugaas nuur a Reer cabdulle sub clan which is part of mohamed zubeer

Wardeer/Doolo is Makahil Ogaden majorty, 5 out of 6 degmo is Makahil, one shared with harti

Qoarxey is reer cabdulle -mohamed zubeer Ogaden

Jigjiga is pure Jidwaq - king will waal county - the Absame royal family

Dagaxbuur is reer isaaq, Mohamed zubeer Ogaden majority with Abaskuul, a jidwaq sub clan

Fiiq/Nogob -reer cabdulle mohamed zubeer Ogaden

Erer - reer cabdulle and sacad maqabul two Ogaden sub clans

i think the last one is shabeele which was lobbed off from godey, its reer cabdulle anyways, it was the reer cabdulle side -western side of godey, i am sure my Absame brothers will correct me, cabdi iley increased the regions from 9 to 11 around 2014/15 to take into account the population growth from 9 million to 11/12 million since ONLF created the 9 regions in 1990



Kulaha Dir have 3 regions, bro where do you get your information from? horta are you like a 16 year old kid i am debating with and thus wasting my time?


i have no beef against dir, they seem to have lots of cuqdad against Absame, this land was conquered by Absame sxb, specially where Absame live in, except shaniley/sitti which was always a ciise/dir land but the Absame dominated areas were 100% conquered over the centuries by Absame, shaniley region was always part of Adal kingdom but Jiwaq/Ogaden lands were 100% pacified by Absame and literally won inch by inch with blood,

I get the point here sxb. You are confusing gobols with districts, Forexample if jidwaq owns jigjiga that doesnt necessarily mean the entire gobol belongs to jidwaq as youre claiming, the fact on the ground is that the region is at best 50% darod and 50% dir cuz its where all the samarons in ethiopia lives.

Also dhagahbur is just one district of jarar region which is mainly occupied by garhajis clans and all the other clans in jarar share the remaining small portion of jarar. This is the jarar map and all the pink and gray portions belong to garhajis except aware which is shared

 

[Farjano-Walad]

the ones that call it ogadenia are the jubbaland ogs, every galbeedi og I met calls it DDSI.

also absolutely no one in DDS calls it ogadenia, the official name is dawladda deegaanka somaalida View attachment 154864




I’ve seen many dhulbahante deny the hawd qabil demographic maps, how far have you guys grown in the region?

sxb every Absame calls it Ogadeniya in DDS and its DDs or somali region, the I has been dropped,

hate it or love it, only Absame matters, 12 presidents, all Ogaden so far,

247 MPs out of the total 282 MPs,

84 counties out of 94 counties,

9 provinces out of 11 provinces owned by Absame, even the British named it Ogadeniya in 1884, take it with them, for only we fought for the land,

some people will die with cuqdad, big deal, we like it this way, the one who can lay claim to a land is the one who is willing to shed blood,

have your people ever fight for the land and died?

if not, you are irrelevant, and all non Absame are marti/guests to the land, they only came after Absame/Kumade settled and pacified the land and literally conquered every inch of it with blood for centuries

to us all of yall are marti, just mere guests, we hold the title to the deed and we are the landlords,

 

[libaaxad]

I’m not going to argue or diss you, but the official name is dawladda deegaanka somaalida @Farjano-Walad

‘have your people fought’
what kind of question is this

If absame have that much political power then mashallah I have nothing against them, just pointing out the name of the region and what the people I have met from there call it

 

[Gardy]

Waaq does not mean its old, its juts a old somali word for God, like Eebe, like how the anceint Semitics used El-, Elahi, Deus for romans and greeks, Al, Rab, Rabi, in Canaanite etc, it just a old word for God or Lord,

sawaqroon, Mj sub clan, much much much younger than isaaq by miles, Cabudwaq, Ogaden sub clan, much much younger than isaaq, does not mean they are old

Isaaq is at the level of darood, much much older than Ogaden, just because they are not as numerous as darood doe snot make them young, not our fault they are small in numbers,

Age has nothing to do with how big a clan is, reer cabdulle is much much younger than many OG clans yet massively outnumbers them, same with Umar Muxammud for example much younger than many harti, Mj and even darood clans like marehan, awrtable yet massively outnumbers those,

Isaaq is much much older than Absame sxb, isaaq sub clans were fighting in the ahmed gurey wars and mentioned yet Moahmed zubeer walk walking on the earth as himself and his father when isaaq sub clans for example were mention as fighting force mohamed zubeer was in his still learning dugsi , he was a kid

You are gaslighting niyow. I've given to you logically sound evidences but all you can came up with is baseless arguments. I've never said isaaq is younger than ogaden because of its population size but I said isaaq has shorter lineage and have no waaq inside their abtirsi.

Also waaq is found only in the names of distant eponyms indicating that kts of ancient thing.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I get the point here sxb. You are confusing gobols with districts, Forexample if jidwaq owns jigjiga that doesnt necessarily mean the entire gobol belongs to jidwaq as youre claiming, the fact on the ground is that the region is at best 50% darod and 50% dir cuz its where all the samarons in ethiopia lives.

Also dhagahbur is just one district of jarar region which is mainly occupied by garhajis clans and all the other clans in jarar share the remaining small portion of jarar. This is the jarar map and all the pink and gray portions belong to garhajis except aware which is sharedView attachment 155012

You are pulling straws sxb,

districs/ gobals, degmos, have meaning,

gobal is horta region/province, OGADENIYA has 11 gobals/regions/proinces,

9 are Absame,

1 is ciise,

1 is shared with garre/dagodia,

Jigjiga is made of 8 counties/degmos or districts, all 8 of them are pure Jidwaq owned Jigjiga since aeons mate, even King Wiil Waal is famous for kicking habashi/oromo ass 3 centuries ago, my wow was killing invaders in 1700s, our awow king wiil waal, where were these phantom dir/samaroon?

why have there never been a single MP of gadabursi for jigjiga, heck not even an Ogaden can claim Jigjiga, its Jidwaq land, let it go sxb, the rest of us, Ogaden, gadabursi, isaaq, etc are refugees in Jigjiga, and i say that as an Absame who has more rights than as Jidwaq is my eldest brother

i dont know why you use the word darood, darood is irrelevant, the darood you speak of is Absame sxb, not even the more numerous gerri kombe have more than one degmo

anyway if the so called dir/gadabursi have 50% iof the land, then why are they not represented? are they just quite about being robbed

considering that every Ethiopian government since haile selasi hated Ogadens, then surely these clans you mention would have had lands, Mps, degmos, regions of their own, yet Ethiopia is forced to recognise Ogadens/Absame as majority and created counties and cannot say anything about it, why would they help the very enemy that shoes at them?

why not marginalise Ogaden/Absame since only they fight? why allow them to dominate the region ?

do you see the faults in your lies and logic? that the biggest Ogaden enemy, Ethiopia will allow Ogadens to dominate, be the leaders, control the parliament whilst the majority apparently dir are silenced?

sure, some nice logic there sxb

i got love for dir/samaroon brothers but your the 9 Absame regions are as old as history and always was associated with Absame sxb,

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I’m not going to argue or diss you, but the official name is dawladda deegaanka somaalida @Farjano-Walad

‘have your people fought’
what kind of question is this

If absame have that much political power then mashallah I have nothing against them, just pointing out the name of the region and what the people I have met from there call it

darling the name was changed, Somali Region since 2018

keep up darling,

new 2019 uniform for liyu police, even their name has been changed

 

[libaaxad]

so you admit it is called somali state (dds in somali) and not ogadenia, thank you @Farjano-Walad

 

[Farjano-Walad]

so you admit it is called somali state (dds in somali) and not ogadenia, thank you @Farjano-Walad

ONLF named it Somali region in 1990, name was changed to DDSi in 2011,

if Ogaden are happy with calling it somali region, why do others moan? if the country insha Allah becomes independent, it will be called Ogadeniya, Jidwaq will get their own country, ciise and garre, who else is left? it will be minority rights and majority rule, meaning 85% of the nation will be Ogadeniya, Jidwaq gets their own nation, ciise gets shaniley and garre gets libaan,

its actually the west and UN and the white newspapers who call the region The Ogaden, Ogadeniya and gave the name

Ogaden calls Ogadeniya the 8 original regions, not even Jigjiga, and forget shaniley which is ciise and libaan which is garre - outside of them, the rest are marti mere guests,

 

[Land Of The Brave]

Raas Ogaden, Calancleey, Cabdelle Jaaney, Cabudwaaq these were historic names where Ogaden named their lands, it isnt new or came from Gaalo, it was always part of Ogaden culture and in sha Allah Ogaden will continue that tradition and name Our Occupied lands after Ogaden no matter who hates it. As for you, your anti- Ogaden is not new, Somalis even have an issue with the fact that Ogaden has the most well known history as well as heroes. In sha Allah, Ogadenia which consists of all 9 states will be named just that.

 

[SPMLegend]

This stupid trying to tarnish Reer Ogadenia hooyada was Langaab

 

[SPMLegend]

Awaare, and half of Gashaamo belongs to Ogadens that’s why President Mustafe is developing his sub clans region.

 

[SOULSEARCHING]

The region was named ogadenia by white British men. Its history, and we should leave it at that. The region has 3 other names too, you could call whatever one you like.

The name isn't the problem, it's the tribalists. If you have qabil mentality Ofcourse you will cry over it and make it problematic.

My family live in parts of Ethiopia and we are happy with the name it dosen't affect us.