Mudan Cumar Cabdirashid Cali Shar'marke will be our next president

[Cognitivedissonance]

I am assuming your Cusman Mohamoud, historically and clannishly speaking our beef was purely with Omar Mohamoud, in fact of the bermuda triangle no doubt Cusman Mohamoud when they lead (cadde musse) there was no conflict, neither with CC and his father, or any of their leaders.

Personally I have nothing against CC, he is a calm very diplomatic soft spoken man with much wisdom, with calming influence, unlike that idiot Gaas and even worse Faroole, all Cusman mohamoud leaders/MP's I have a different class compared to those loud mouth ones that tarnished beesha's name.

I oppose CC for just a single reason, Somalia is split between the Turkey-Qatar-Saudi Camp and the America-UAE-Eritrea camps, Abdinasir (sacad) Shakur (ceyr) CC (MJ) and Farmaajo (MX) are all on the UAE payroll, and any candidates they support I am opposed 100%

Geo-politically there is a big beef between UAE and Turkey-Qatar, so much so Turkey got a base in Qatar for that reason, now Saudi has joined Turkey-Qatar Axis and Egypt Joined the UAE-America-Eritrea Axis. I wrote an extensive post in Somnet about this a month ago and now everyone is talking about it.

The UAE are terrible for Somalia hence any candidate they back I am totally against even if he is my father, they want Turkey out of Somalia and this very common knowledge in Xamar, its why they fell out with that other parasite HSM, they blocked Mogadishu port internationalisation which the Turks wanted, because it was threatening their revenue, they bought Berbera//Kismaayo/Djibouti/Assab under DP world and they highly influence Bosaaso too.

Now I would have nothing against them if they actually built things, roads, infrastructure like the Turks do, but they don't, they are incapable, they are parasites, they have done nothing in 20 years, in fact they only offer 'checks' which facilitate this corruption hence why everyone wants to be a politician.

The Turks as you can see for yourself in a short time, look at what they have done, they now have offices in P/land and S/land, Faroole even getting them to build Garowe airport last time I checked, the only reason UAE is so desperate about Somalia is because of the arrival of the Turks, they scrounge parasites and any candidate they back I am totally opposed.

Turkey is openly backing (Sheikh Shariif), whom I support, I have met him a year ago, he was always a very honest man, but knew nothing about politics and hence didn't always make the right decision, it's why he is funded taught English, political science and everything, he is a complete changed man, from the way he talks, admitting the mistakes and naivety, he is the man I support, because both Turkey-Qatar are behind him, the UAE do not dislike him, but her is not their choice, because they want a puppet to kick the Turks out.

You fail to realise that it's the man not the donors that makes all the difference for example I can use the donors & when I get elected I can tell them to stick it where the Sun don't shine.

You speak of turkey like as if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths yes it's all good that they've made all these buildings such as the port in Mogadishu but what you fail to realise is that they bring in their own workers & made many natives redundant likewise with the hospitals that they named after themselves are privately owned for profit nothing is done without there being of benifit to turkey. Take the upper House of Parliament for example they put their flag on top of the building, do you see something wrong with that?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@Inquisitive_ youre a reasonable man tell me what do you make of this picture? The upper House of Parliament where Somalia law is made has the flag of turkey flying at the top of the building

The hospital that was always named digfeer was changed to tayip erdogen illahay ba kugu dharshee what does that tell you?

 

[Inquisitive_]

@Cognitivedissonance

I have no problem with the Turkish flag at all, You had the Ethiopian flag in every federal state flying around with them even celebrating Ginbot especially in S/land and P/land but also J/land, south-west with the midgit Gebre running around everywhere.

For me that was the ultimate shame, not the Turks that came to our aid during the Ottoman rule, I don't know about this upper house building and I doubt the Turks would enforce such a thing, Somali's in these desperate times are notorious for any help they can receive from Muslims, hence the hatred for Arab countries for those that are conscious about this, hence why babies born are named 'erdogan' no one is forcing these mothers at all, it's expression of their love for what he has done at a dire time when 250.000 died from famine.

In these desperate times, I need all the help I can get, sick and tired staying in these western countries, in these bitter colds. Yes you are right CC may drop them and use them to get in, but that's a risk I rather no take, because if he doesn't, the UAE ambassador in Xamar that hates Turks will kick them out.

These vermins only became interested after the Turks came and as you know are nothing more then parasites, even worse they are funding rebel groups inside Ethiopia, and the Ethiopian regime if they continue to survive will destabilise whoever allies with them, I was told they were behind several of the assassination that were taking place (sudden spike) in P/land, similar things will start with S/land. They even went as far supporting Xidig to stop CC.

For decades these injirleey's were fucking with Koonfur,because they sided with Arab's and largely because they were also stupid themselves, the only chance I have is Turkey-Qatar, with Ethiopia hands tied with America-UAE-Eritrea axis destabilisation, I do not want to f*ck with equilibrium.

Hence no UAE puppet, no corrupt HSM government, the best chance for Somalia today is none other then Sheikh Shariif, CC chances are really ruined by the terrible legacies of Gaas/Faroole whom managed to insult pretty much everybody in the country

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@Cognitivedissonance

I have no problem with the Turkish flag at all, You had the Ethiopian flag in every federal state flying around with them even celebrating Ginbot especially in S/land and P/land but also J/land, south-west with the midgit Gebre running around everywhere.

For me that was the ultimate shame, not the Turks that came to our aid during the Ottoman rule, I don't know about this upper house building and I doubt the Turks would enforce such a thing, Somali's in these desperate times are notorious for any help they can receive from Muslims, hence the hatred for Arab countries for those that are conscious about this, hence why babies born are named 'erdogan' no one is forcing these mothers at all, it's expression of their love for what he has done at a dire time when 250.000 died from famine.

In these desperate times, I need all the help I can get, sick and tired staying in these western countries, in these bitter colds. Yes you are right CC may drop them and use them to get in, but that's a risk I rather no take, because if he doesn't, the UAE ambassador in Xamar that hates Turks will kick them out.

These vermins only became interested after the Turks came and as you know are nothing more then parasites, even worse they are funding rebel groups inside Ethiopia, and the Ethiopian regime if they continue to survive will destabilise whoever allies with them, I was told they were behind several of the assassination that were taking place (sudden spike) in P/land, similar things will start with S/land. They even went as far supporting Xidig to stop CC.

For decades these injirleey's were fucking with Koonfur,because they sided with Arab's and largely because they were also stupid themselves, the only chance I have is Turkey-Qatar, with Ethiopia hands tied with America-UAE-Eritrea axis destabilisation, I do not want to f*ck with equilibrium.

Hence no UAE puppet, no corrupt HSM government, the best chance for Somalia today is none other then Sheikh Shariif, CC chances are really ruined by the terrible legacies of Gaas/Faroole whom managed to insult pretty much everybody in the country

I reiterate this is the upper House of Parliament the only body that can refuse what the president or the government says & can overtrule it decision has the flag of turkey on the building & you don't see that as problematic

Look on the top of the door it blatantly has the red crescent of turkey & it says something in Turkish

I don't know about you but I rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

 

[Inquisitive_]

@Cognitivedissonance

Bro, dig me up threads or posts you have made criticising the Ethiopian flags or the Ginbot celebrations year after year in Garowe and Hargaisa in particularly but under HSM also in Mogadishu.

I would like to see them, I have been asking these questions for years, and they are our arch enemies for 1000 years. Why is this acceptable to you? why no equal hatred for this? forget Ethiopian and Turks, we both have issues with who governs Mudug and were both Somali

Then tell me what the Turks have done to cause this hatred? as far as I know, they came to our aid during the Portuguese invasion, had it not been for them, highly likely we could have been another Angola with mixed children everywhere like the benadir and Shaanshi whom people wrongly mistake as having Yemen origin.

Yes I agree with you this is excessive a bit, but I am reminded how 250.000 died of famine with no coming to the aid except the Turks and Iranian's, it's very easy for us to sit in the west and complain because we are not going through the hell these people were for two decades.

I don't know the background to this, I don't think they enforced this, but I know how fickle Somali's are, it's there way of showing brotherhood, for god sake Erdogan was the most popular child name in Mogadishu, no body forced those women.

You have to bring evidence that the Turks enforced this by their own volition, no country will help you for free, there is a price to pay, and the choices you have are atrocious, you have the Xabashi filth, the UAE parasite, the American destabiliser, the Saudi terrorist financing and the Turk that is building and doing all the work on the ground taking pride in it

I know which one I would pick sxb, before them, the streets and basic infrastructure was atrocious, today the whole place is booming, the third fastest growing city in the world.

This is their soft power projection, they like to show off, but we are in a dire state, with the choices you have, I rather go with my Turkish brother that came to my aid, then any of the other parasites.

Take lessons from the German's under occupation for so many years, look at them now an absolute economic power house, the same with the Japanese, we have destroyed ourself, no national army or anything basic in a shark infested waters, the Turks are helping us with this basic thing all other countries didn't care about.

I am grateful for that, it beggars believe that you don't see this.

 

[Boqor Geeljire252]

I respect CCC. He comes from a smart family, grew up to be an established politican despite his father's early assassination and he seems intelligent and proSomali.

 

[Abdalla]

Circus maximus you should leave politics to grown folks and concentrate on football instead.

Here's the speech there's no need to fabricate anything he clearly says the constitution of puntland states the whole of mudug is part of puntland & he asks the crowed of people in galkacyo where he was giving the speech 'do you know that? They reply yes then he asks them why didn't you do anything about that? Which is true..don't take my word for it hear it from the horses mouth
Anti federalism? He created jubaland don't take my word for it here's Ahmed madoobe saying he's the backbone of the creation of jubaland & the main driving force

The bolded part doesn't make any sense. The videoclip doesn't support the gibberish you wrote either. In that clip he didn't ask the crowd a question nor did the crowd replied yes or whatever the f*ck you're saying.

As for federalism, yes he was part of the lobby group that advocated for Jubbaland. That was his comeback to Somali politics after being sacked by donkey sharif. I am not denying that he knows his way through Somali politics and I use to support him. The question that remains is whether he's good for Puntland? The answer is no. He says that federalism is the cause of all the fightings and we need to revisit whether federalism is suited for Somalia

Mr Sharmake said: “We [government leaders] are responsible to the nation and the people [of Somalia]. That people die each day under our watch is dangerous and the nation will hold us to account. Today, two things are fundamental: Firstly, a ceasefire agreement is signed to ensure that the violence stops. Secondly, we believed that the [Somali] people will settle down under a federal system, but if the federal system is bringing bullets and trouble, then we have to revisit it [federalism]”

http://somalireview.com/2016/11/som...is-wrong-on-galkayo-and-federalism-editorial/

Here is a videoclip of him saying that federalism need to be revisited @8.06 minutes.


Leave politics and limit yourself to asking guys to stick their dicks in you and see whether they would get syphillis, herpes, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

being diplomatic is ok, but i cant support someone who questions federalism. Its whats holding somalia together and the only system that can work whether people like it or not.




and the guy is Pler, its blasphemy

 

[Kalshaale]

Leave politics and limit yourself to asking guys to stick their dicks in you and see whether they would get syphillis, herpes, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.

Not only is Cognitivedissonance a sheegaato, but he is a too?

 

[Canuck]

@Inquisitive_ I remember reading back in the day about Iran trying to get into Somalia as well, however the HSM admin took payment from KSA to cease ties. Do you think they are interested in Somalia in the same regard as Turkey?

Iran had an interest in Somalia since the 70s and they tried to help us in 77 and all because of the uranium in our land. But honestly they are bad business and are not like turkey. First they supported the Islamic rule in Somalia. They also were busy in shiazation of Somalis, also they send weapons to al shabab. No good comes from them(check Lebanon Yemen Syria Iraq)

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

The bolded part doesn't make any sense. The videoclip doesn't support the gibberish you wrote either. In that clip he didn't ask the crowd a question nor did the crowd replied yes or whatever the f*ck you're saying.

As for federalism, yes he was part of the lobby group that advocated for Jubbaland. That was his comeback to Somali politics after being sacked by donkey sharif. I am not denying that he knows his way through Somali politics and I use to support him. The question that remains is whether he's good for Puntland? The answer is no. He says that federalism is the cause of all the fightings and we need to revisit whether federalism is suited for Somalia



http://somalireview.com/2016/11/som...is-wrong-on-galkayo-and-federalism-editorial/

Here is a videoclip of him saying that federalism need to be revisited @8.06 minutes.


Leave politics and limit yourself to asking guys to stick their dicks in you and see whether they would get syphillis, herpes, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.

Circus maximus I posted the wrong video, this is the clip where CCC is in burtinle & he's asking the crowd if they knew the dastuur of puntland says that the whole of mudug is part of puntland @4:35
The point you raised about federalism you said we should revisit it to make changes in order to improve it, not to get rid of it completely. This video clearly shows that he was the backbone of the creation of jubaland cause that's Ahmed madoobe exact words, you mean to tell me that this man is anti federalism? @1:10
Last but not least I quoted a bigger track

[The Notorious B.I.G.]
Biggie Smalls is the wickedest
Niggaz say I'm pussy? I dare you to stick your dick in this
If I was pussy I'd be filled with syphillis
Herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia, gettin rid of ya
Got it locked like the penitentiary
Niggaz mention me for M.C. execution, who you choosin?
The wack MC? Or the black fat MC?


Read more: Notorious B.I.G. - The Wickedest Lyrics | MetroLyrics

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

being diplomatic is ok, but i cant support someone who questions federalism. Its whats holding somalia together and the only system that can work whether people like it or not.




and the guy is Pler, its blasphemy

You know what is blasphemy a puntlander who believes in secession from the rest of Somalia. CCC did not say we should withdraw from federalism rather Ina ka fiirsano meaning look into it to see whether or not it will benefit us @Abdalla federalism isn't an ayat written in the Quran changes can be applied, there's many different types of federalism the problem is you're thinking merely as a puntlander & he's looking at what benefits somalis overall so I see why you won't like or support a man like CCC.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@Cognitivedissonance

Bro, dig me up threads or posts you have made criticising the Ethiopian flags or the Ginbot celebrations year after year in Garowe and Hargaisa in particularly but under HSM also in Mogadishu.

I would like to see them, I have been asking these questions for years, and they are our arch enemies for 1000 years. Why is this acceptable to you? why no equal hatred for this? forget Ethiopian and Turks, we both have issues with who governs Mudug and were both Somali

Then tell me what the Turks have done to cause this hatred? as far as I know, they came to our aid during the Portuguese invasion, had it not been for them, highly likely we could have been another Angola with mixed children everywhere like the benadir and Shaanshi whom people wrongly mistake as having Yemen origin.

Yes I agree with you this is excessive a bit, but I am reminded how 250.000 died of famine with no coming to the aid except the Turks and Iranian's, it's very easy for us to sit in the west and complain because we are not going through the hell these people were for two decades.

I don't know the background to this, I don't think they enforced this, but I know how fickle Somali's are, it's there way of showing brotherhood, for god sake Erdogan was the most popular child name in Mogadishu, no body forced those women.

You have to bring evidence that the Turks enforced this by their own volition, no country will help you for free, there is a price to pay, and the choices you have are atrocious, you have the Xabashi filth, the UAE parasite, the American destabiliser, the Saudi terrorist financing and the Turk that is building and doing all the work on the ground taking pride in it

I know which one I would pick sxb, before them, the streets and basic infrastructure was atrocious, today the whole place is booming, the third fastest growing city in the world.

This is their soft power projection, they like to show off, but we are in a dire state, with the choices you have, I rather go with my Turkish brother that came to my aid, then any of the other parasites.

Take lessons from the German's under occupation for so many years, look at them now an absolute economic power house, the same with the Japanese, we have destroyed ourself, no national army or anything basic in a shark infested waters, the Turks are helping us with this basic thing all other countries didn't care about.

I am grateful for that, it beggars believe that you don't see this.

Im not going to deny the Turks have done well personally I favour them more than the others but what you have to realise is that they also have an agenda & if you think they're not in this to make money & exploit us then I have London Bridge for sale if you're interested. Man made the money money never made the man, he who pays the piper chooses the tune so what you're saying is you rather be a puppet to turkey than UAE

I hope who ever gets in next is God fearing & tells them where to go after they clear them out. You keep referring to the people of Mogadishu & how turkey has done right by them is it just me or you sound like a seccisionist surely you should be thinking about what benefits the collective. Shiekh sharif has been tried & tested CCC is not bias he's dhexdhexad as you can see the secessionist puntlanders despise him & you probably do too due to his tribe but xasilooni bu keeni kara taas aa aniga aminsanahay iyo wado shaqeyn iyo wada jir, in sha Allah may Allah give us the right person who takes us out of the crab in a barrel type situation where everyone is out for themselves.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Abdalla
Somalida Maxay ku maahmaahan caanoha fiiqsi lo dhamin iyo hadlki oo ka fiirsi lo dhihin feerohada aa wax yeelan saas dharteeda bu CCC u ugu baaqay Ina laga fiirsado federalka teeda kale owaal ba waxa la yiri somalida oo dhan Maxay neceb yihin Majeerteen, Majeerteen maxay neceb yihiin maxamud saleeban hadanaa Maxay kasii neceb yihiin cisman maxamud, cisman maxamudna waxay neceb yihiin bah dirooble waa maqli jiray laakinse hada aan xaqiiqsaday

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Circus maximus I posted the wrong video, this is the clip where CCC is in burtinle & he's asking the crowd if they knew the dastuur of puntland says that the whole of mudug is part of puntland @4:35
The point you raised about federalism you said we should revisit it to make changes in order to improve it, not to get rid of it completely. This video clearly shows that he was the backbone of the creation of jubaland cause that's Ahmed madoobe exact words, you mean to tell me that this man is anti federalism? @1:10
Last but not least I quoted a bigger track

[The Notorious B.I.G.]
Biggie Smalls is the wickedest
Niggaz say I'm pussy? I dare you to stick your dick in this
If I was pussy I'd be filled with syphillis
Herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia, gettin rid of ya
Got it locked like the penitentiary
Niggaz mention me for M.C. execution, who you choosin?
The wack MC? Or the black fat MC?


Read more: Notorious B.I.G. - The Wickedest Lyrics | MetroLyrics

You know what is blasphemy a puntlander who believes in secession from the rest of Somalia. CCC did not say we should withdraw from federalism rather Ina ka fiirsano meaning look into it to see whether or not it will benefit us @Abdalla federalism isn't an ayat written in the Quran changes can be applied, there's many different types of federalism the problem is you're thinking merely as a puntlander & he's looking at what benefits somalis overall so I see why you won't like or support a man like CCC.

Kkkkkk Cognitive "My race is MJ, there's no such thing as Somali" Dissonance arguing for Somali unity.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Kkkkkk Cognitive "My race is MJ, there's no such thing as Somali" Dissonance arguing for Somali unity.

That was banter you dog this isn't so take your emotions elsewhere & don't derail the topic.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

That was banter you dog this isn't so take your emotions elsewhere & don't derail the topic.

Sure, whatever you say.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

The few hateful puntlanders would be silenced if we ever have a government that gives funding to regional governments and organisations and does not support particular maamuls only to inflame tensions.

If we he a decent government people would get behind them. I also doubt most people have incredibly high expectations for the government. I personally would consider the next government a success if they deliver a infrastructure projects, put into place some anti corruption reform (even rudimentary), and start paying the army and make some attempts at restoring the SNA. Even with the infrastructure, if they built 2 hospitals in regional states and restored some government I would be incredibly impressed.

I concur many disillusioned puntlanders would come back on board & support the federal government if we had a leader & government that were competent.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Abdalla
Somalida Maxay ku maahmaahan caanoha fiiqsi lo dhamin iyo hadlki oo ka fiirsi lo dhihin feerohada aa wax yeelan saas dharteeda bu CCC u ugu baaqay Ina laga fiirsado federalka teeda kale owaal ba waxa la yiri somalida oo dhan Maxay neceb yihin Majeerteen, Majeerteen maxay neceb yihiin maxamud saleeban hadanaa Maxay kasii neceb yihiin cisman maxamud, cisman maxamudna waxay neceb yihiin bah dirooble waa maqli jiray laakinse hada aan xaqiiqsaday

kkkk




Bro, you are a kumbaya nigga, me and @Abdalla see things differently from you.

 

[Abdalla]

You know what is blasphemy a puntlander who believes in secession from the rest of Somalia. CCC did not say we should withdraw from federalism rather Ina ka fiirsano meaning look into it to see whether or not it will benefit us @Abdalla federalism isn't an ayat written in the Quran changes can be applied, there's many different types of federalism the problem is you're thinking merely as a puntlander & he's looking at what benefits somalis overall so I see why you won't like or support a man like CCC.

You're acting like his unsollicited spokesman, and frankly you don't have the intellectual capacity to be a spin doctor. So spare me your interpretation of what he said or what he meant. I gave you a clear video of him questioning whether federal system is suited for Somalia and he said that the federal system is the cause of all the fightings. Puntland has a clear stance on what kind of federal system they want, it doesn't need to be revisited, people need to follow the guidelines we agreed upon in the Garowe I &II protocols. HSM also said that need to revisit the federal system and see which type of federalism suits Somalia. So whenever you say which type of federal should we opt for, know that you are mimicking HSM's words. As for him looking at the interest of Somalis, do I need to remind you that he is there on behalf of the Darods in this 4.5 system? HSM is looking out for hawiye interest and he is there on behalf of Puntland, if he doesn't represent our interests then we will call him out.

Calling out the spineless, xalwo eating, shushumow graving, playstation playing uncle of yours doesn't mean we hate Cismaann maxmoud. In the video you posted he was clearly arguing for galnus' case like a poster boy.