‘Forgotten’ White working-class pupils let down by decades of neglect, MPs say

[Angelina]

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/237/left-behind-white-pupils-from-disadvantaged-backgrounds/news/156024/forgotten-white-workingclass-pupils-let-down-by-decades-of-neglect-mps-say/

Supposedly, white working class boys are victims and you ajnabis get too much attention and resources and schools have become playgrounds that only champion Ethnic minorities hence why ethnic minorities are doing better.

Agree?

@Kisame @Keep it a boqol @El Nino @Shayla @Khaem @Yaraye @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 @AbdiFreedom

 

[Basra]

My people

 

[Khaem]

If anything it's black yutes that had this hardest in secondary. Too many teachers onto them. But I agree a few Mathows were just bad news

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

A lot of poor Cadaans come from backgrounds that don't value education/ alcohol/drug/abuse backgrounds. These disingenuous governments know the truth, they should spend time addressing the root causes and find ways to treat these people, because the toxicity repeats itself with every generation.

Ethnic minority parents usually care more about education and even if they are awful parents, they have a bigger 'ceeb' culture so will try to hide it from schools/government.

 

[Rayaale]

They’ll always find a way to blame minorities

 

[berberaboy66]

It’s purely economical. All of these white working class kids come from areas with no opportunities. As bad as it is living in city estates there’s plenty of opportunity for you to go and make something of yourself. Better academic institutions and workplaces.

Blame the UK government for their over reliance on London. Working class white people are the producers of the country, but they’ve cut back on farms, mines, ports etc.

Of course these people will blame immigrants though. It’s just jealousy, your problems are very easy to see and fixable if you make an issue of it but they won’t

 

[Yaraye]

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Supposedly, white working class boys are victims and you ajnabis get too much attention and resources and schools have become playgrounds that only champion Ethnic minorities hence why ethnic minorities are doing better.

Agree?

@Kisame @Keep it a boqol @El Nino @Shayla @Khaem @Yaraye @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 @AbdiFreedom

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Supposedly, white working class boys are victims and you ajnabis get too much attention and resources and schools have become playgrounds that only champion Ethnic minorities hence why ethnic minorities are doing better.

Agree?

@Kisame @Keep it a boqol @El Nino @Shayla @Khaem @Yaraye @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 @AbdiFreedom

Historically, they've blocked off their competitors and deluded themselves into thinking that they were actually smarter and more superior. Now that there are fewer barriers, and their competitors (BIPOC and women) have caught up, their beliefs/ notions are being destroyed in front of their very eyes, lol

 

[peterpeter]

Historically, they've blocked off their competitors and deluded themselves into thinking that they were actually smarter and more superior. Now that there are fewer barriers, and their competitors (BIPOC and women) have caught up, their beliefs/ notions are being destroyed in front of their very eyes, lol

Facts literally who cares these people develop whole systems whos only job is to make our lives harder now its bitten them on their ass they cry, alhamdulilah white tears this early in the morning.

 

[Riftvalley]

Only demographic I have seen mums buying cigarette for their children. Poor English working class or unemployed are an interesting bunch, though many are good folks who just grind for their children. People often forget the first people whose land was robbed by the British aristocrats were the British peasants.

 

[AbdiFreedom]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

That's not true at all.

Europe doesn't have special funding for ethnic minorities. Funding is allocated based on INCOME. Unless you are talking about asylum seekers, but that's a different topic altogether.

This is about educational attainment.

Furthermore, poor whites in places like the UK, live in same neighbourhoods as ethnic minorities and there is EXCELLENT public transport in terms of accessibility.

The only issue holding back Poor Whites, is cultural/social; the UK has a strong class culture, and the 'underclass' were literally living like Oliver Twist not long ago. Add some alcohol/drugs to that cocktail of disadvantage and this is what we ended up with; communities that value physical labour, or worse, being dependent on social welfare.

 

[peterpeter]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

This is not even remotely true

 

[Riftvalley]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

I thought you did not believe in discrimination and identity politics? Thought all groups get what they put into the system and there is a meritocracy? Now, all of a sudden you’re engaging in identity politics on behalf of poor white people? Isn’t the lack of education progression in some white working class people due to lifestyle choices or only black people problems caused by lifestyle choices?



As for your question, only a few universities give out bursaries for elite ethnic minority, but that is a very small number and doesn’t make a difference to the education stats of the UK. Anyone can get a uni loan in the UK.White working class especially boys do very poorly in the education system up to the GCSE level. University doesn’t come into the question because many of them aren’t getting enough grades to go to university.
It is normal to see a kid who doesn’t speak English enter the UK and surpass white children who are native English speakers.

Jamaicans had a similar problem, as did Somalis, who are now slowly improving. I don’t think the education system in the UK is any more favourable to a Somali child than a poor white child.

On a personal note, I grew up with many such people (poor English council estate folks) and there wasn’t much incentive to do well in school. A lot of my friends from primary school basically stopped attending by the age of 14 and there parents didn’t make much of it. A few of them became drug addicts and most now work manual labouring jobs like their fathers did. The poor English culture is almost like an alien culture to that of mainstream British culture sometimes. My friends use to drive cars around my family’s estate at the age of 13 and they use to smoke in front of their parents.

 

[Riftvalley]

That's not true at all.

Europe doesn't have special funding for ethnic minorities. Funding is allocated based on INCOME. Unless you are talking about asylum seekers, but that's a different topic altogether.

This is about educational attainment.

Furthermore, poor whites in places like the UK, live in same neighbourhoods as ethnic minorities and there is EXCELLENT public transport in terms of accessibility.

The only issue holding back Poor Whites, is cultural/social; the UK has a strong class culture, and the 'underclass' were literally living like Oliver Twist not long ago. Add some alcohol/drugs to that cocktail of disadvantage and this is what we ended up with; communities that value physical labour, or worse, being dependent on social welfare.

Cadaans in my school use to throw around chairs and jump out windows. They use to get a slap on the wrist. Somalis and Jamaicans got excluded or permanently expelled for way less.

Even now there are some horrific cases of profiling and over policing of black children:

Child Q scandal: Hackney schools policing overhauled - BBC News

The Met Police is making changes to how safer schools officers operate in Hackney, east London.

www.bbc.co.uk

The problem with white nationalists is that they do not want justice for everyone. They feel like they always have to compete with black people, exaggerate how much help black people get or totally downplay black suffering to highlight the state of poor whites.
The problem for them is that the stats or data don’t show the system is favourable to black people.

 

[Moon-]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

why do you care so much lmao you've told on yourself here

 

[Vanessa]

If this is true, my bad

 

[ICEcold]

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Supposedly, white working class boys are victims and you ajnabis get too much attention and resources and schools have become playgrounds that only champion Ethnic minorities hence why ethnic minorities are doing better.

Agree?

@Kisame @Keep it a boqol @El Nino @Shayla @Khaem @Yaraye @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 @AbdiFreedom

Agenda of the thread aside, this probably comes down to equivalently poor immigrant families being more motivated about having their children pursue higher education. Maybe there's more of a clean slate attitude among immigrants, compared to families who've been generationally working class/poor?

It's not all sunshine and rainbows, though; my upbringing was primarily in a single-mother Somali household from age 4 onwards. We had to attempt to translate documents to our hooyo as kids lol, and many of the issues teachers would highlight in my yearly primary school reports would persist for years until I could take the initiative to work on them, since my mother couldn't read English. Even still, my mother would try her best to get me into tuitions outside of school to bolster my exam performance, etc.

 

[berberaboy66]

Is it true white university students enrolled in advanced degree programs in England have to pay for their tuition while non-whites are more likely to get bursaries that cover the full cost for belonging to a racial minority group? I believe white people are disadvantaged, yes. Thankfully it doesn't happen in my industry.

Many working poor white areas of England also have terrible public transportation and social services from what I remember reading.

Most bursaries in the UK that cater to black/Asian/muslim are run by those communities themselves. And are mainly focused on Oxbridge students

 

[ICEcold]

It’s purely economical. All of these white working class kids come from areas with no opportunities. As bad as it is living in city estates there’s plenty of opportunity for you to go and make something of yourself. Better academic institutions and workplaces.

Also this. Not as many immigrants outside of London in those post-industrial towns