200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

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so u have no reason to not believe in them...u just dont? :dwill:
They conflict with the quran sxb. Also not to mention, theories are proven right for a time before they are disproven like Einstein did to Newton(the same guy ho theorized the stationary sun and earth revolving around it theory). Like someone said, the big bang could be disproved in a century or so.
 

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They conflict with the quran sxb. Also not to mention, theories are proven right for a time before they are disproven like Einstein did to Newton(the same guy ho theorized the stationary sun and earth revolving around it theory). Like someone said, the big bang could be disproved in a century or so.

Islam doesn't forbid science. And you can believe in two things.
 
It's not really a question of belief. All of these theories you mentioned have been proven.

If scientific proofs won't convince you maybe this will.

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_104.html
The quran says the sun rises and sets. Newton says the sun stays stationary and the planets move around it.
The quran says God built the earth and the heavens, science says the big bang was the origin of the universe.
The quran says Adam was first man, and from him even was created, science says we evolved from ape.

How can muslims possibly reconcile these conflicting ideas?
 
Islam doesn't forbid science. And you can believe in two things.
lol It doesn't as long as the two don't conflict. If they conflict, then you are required to belief in islam. At the end of the day, a man was in charge of the scientific laws we have today and man no matter how smart can and do make mistakes. I can't
 
The quran says the sun rises and sets. Newton says the sun stays stationary and the planets move around it.
The quran says God built the earth and the heavens, science says the big bang was the origin of the universe.
The quran says Adam was first man, and from him even was created, science says we evolved from ape.

How can muslims possibly reconcile these conflicting ideas?
The Quran is not as shallow as you are making it. Its meanings are deep, some verses no one knows the true meaning except a chosen few.

The Quran talks about the reason and purpose of creation, science tries to explain how it is done. Science can never tell you why something is created, all it can do is observe the data and form models to explain the phenomena. There really isn't any conflict between the two.
 
The Quran is not as shallow as you are making it. Its meanings are deep, some verses no one knows the true meaning except a chosen few.

The Quran talks about the reason and purpose of creation, science tries to explain how it is done. Science can never tell you why something is created, all it can do is observe the data and form models to explain the phenomena. There really isn't any conflict between the two.
You are being ignorant on purpose here sxb. The Quran makes it clear that none of the theories mentioned above is real. Do you really think when Allah says he designed the world and the heaven in six days, he is actually referring to the big bang? Also don't forget the big bang is said to have happened 14 billion years ago and between that time and the time the first human "evolved" from apes about nearly the 14 billion passed. There is no way to reconcile the two sxb.
 
You are being ignorant on purpose here sxb. The Quran makes it clear that none of the theories mentioned above is real. Do you really think when Allah says he designed the world and the heaven in six days, he is actually referring to the big bang? Also don't forget the big bang is said to have happened 14 billion years ago and between that time and the time the first human "evolved" from apes about nearly the 14 billion passed. There is no way to reconcile the two sxb.
Wow I can't believe you are this dumb. You think that when Allah is talking about days He means the 24 hr cycle that we know of? This kind of mentality is why Muslims are so backwards. We Muslims are not like Christians, we never had a history of conflict with science. We used to be the standard bearers of scientific knowledge during the middle ages. It's only when we started to abandon scientific knowledge and fossilized our religious knowledge did we begin to see our decline.

 
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Wow I can't believe you are this dumb. You think that when Allah is talking about days he means the 24 hr cycle that we know of? This kind of mentality is why Muslims are so backwards. We Muslims are not like Christians, we never had a history of conflict with science. We used to be the standard bearers of scientific knowledge during the middle ages. It's only when we started to abandon scientific knowledge and fossilized our religious knowledge did we begin to see our decline.

Okay let's say I am wrong about the time thing. What about the fact that evelution says man came from ape? Explain that to us and how it does NOT contradict Islam?
 

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The quran says the sun rises and sets. Newton says the sun stays stationary and the planets move around it.
The quran says God built the earth and the heavens, science says the big bang was the origin of the universe.
The quran says Adam was first man, and from him even was created, science says we evolved from ape.

How can muslims possibly reconcile these conflicting ideas?
bro when the Quran says the sun rises and sets, it doesn't mean it literally physically rises and sets come on :browtf:
 

Tramo

Nine kitaabs on a bookshelf
:cosbyhmm: What does it mean marka?
even ppl who believe the earth revolves around the sun use the expression the sun is setting/rising. it's how it appears to us and that's how we describe it, but it doesn't mean that's how it works physically. i'm assuming ur referring to the story of Dhul-Qarnayn in Surah al-Kahf in which the Quran describes how he perceives to see the sun

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."

from Tafsir Ibn Kathir: "he found it setting in a spring of Hami'ah) meaning, he saw the sun as if it were setting in the ocean. This is something which everyone who goes to the coast can see: it looks as if the sun is setting into the sea but in fact it never leaves its path in which it is fixed."

u ever see a sunset at a beach or something? it looks like the sun is setting into the water. doesn't mean it actually is tho

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It's got valleys and mountains, but it's not a globe. Can you imagine the oceans curving? Preposterous.

When the heaven is split asunder, And listens and obeys its Lord, and it must do so; And when the earth is stretched forth, And has cast out all that was in it and became empty, And listens and obeys its Lord, and it must do so;” [Translation courtesy of Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al Hilali]
 

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When the heaven is split asunder, And listens and obeys its Lord, and it must do so; And when the earth is stretched forth, And has cast out all that was in it and became empty, And listens and obeys its Lord, and it must do so;” [Translation courtesy of Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al Hilali]



Can you explain your point, please? I was talking about the Earth as it is, not as it will become on The Day of Judgement.

Allah says in The Holy Quran that the Earth is flat, and that the Sun moves.
 
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