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[The alchemist]

I haven't gotten any J mtDNAs on my list yet. Perhaps we should also inquire about the OP's mother to satiate our curiosity.

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Those are Js based on 100s of samples. It's not common, and only two of them are unmixed, lol. The rest are either non-Somalis or mixed with Arabs. OP is fully Somali autosomally. That mtDNA is centuries old years old or can go beyond thousand years. Nothing too recent at least. We can even go beyond; it can be way older and might be of northeast African origin too, but this a lesser speculation.

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[World]

Did you want me to comment? Also, why assume? He could be Cissa or Issaq.

J1b is likely West Asian in origin. Sadly, most people don't have the same enthusiasm for mtDNA as yDNA.

He said he was “from the North” if he was Isaaq, he wouldn’t say that. And I was right.

 

[Sophisticate]

The title of Sheekhaal being a priestly class would make since their ancestor, Sheikh Ismaacil Cumar Siyaad is historically known to be a knowledgeable scholar and preacher of Islam.

That makes sense.

I've heard that Xeebjire does not refer to them being from sea/coast but due to their progenitor named above who travelled to the Coastal Urban hubs of Saylac and Berbera to preach Islam thus eventually his offspring being named "Ilma-Xeebjire" and who later on changed it to just "Xeebjire"

That would explain the coastal connection.

We'll have to wait until a Western fella from Cali Ganuun does a test. Once he does the test and gets T, it will prove we're the only real clan in the North-West

I'm waiting for at least one Ali Ganuun to do the test. It would be nice to see the results.

He said he was “from the North” if he was Isaaq, he wouldn’t say that. And I was right.

You were correct. He would have shown up with a Landcruiser and cha-cha-ed into this thread with a colourful bracelet as though it were May 19th.

I was going to be conservative and say Fiqishini (but there aren't that many) or Cissa, but they tend to claim Djbouti wholesale. I should have defaulted to Occam's razor.

 

[Sophisticate]

Those are Js based on 100s of samples. It's not common, and only two of them are unmixed, lol. The rest are either non-Somalis or mixed with Arabs. OP is fully Somali autosomally. That mtDNA is centuries old years old or can go beyond thousand years. Nothing too recent at least. We can even go beyond; it can be way older and might be of northeast African origin too, but this a lesser speculation.

I failed to register his DNA breakdown. I just scanned over the haplogroups.

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[The alchemist]

I failed to register his DNA breakdown. I just scanned over the haplogroups.

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[Smokybob03]

People talk about DNA results all the time. It's done more so out of genuine curiosity. Why have you chosen to vocalize this now?

You think I’m an omnipresent figure of the World Wide Web ? Lmao.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

I heard some time back that Xeebjire was T-L208, but this is the first major confirmation. I knew that Sheekhash/Sheekhaal was more of a title for a priestly class of people rather than an actual qabil. Also, doesn't Xeebjire refer to someone who lives near the sea/coast?

We should let @AbdiFreedom know that we have no R Gadabuursi person thus far. I don't know who spread this mistruth. I once saw it reiterated on Twitter. So far, all the Gadabuuris are T. Until further notice. The only one I would speculate is not Ali Ganun (who people claim broke away from Batiire and joined Habar Afaan a few hundred years ago), but I still haven't seen their results.​

I have a relative from Awdal (all 4 grandparents) who’s E-V32, I just asked him for his clan and am waiting for the answer rn

 

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I have a relative from Awdal (all 4 grandparents) who’s E-V32, I just asked him for his clan and am waiting for the answer rn

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[NidarNidar]

My tribal cousin. Both my ayeeyos are Xeebjire. I'm Aden Yonis (Yonis Musse Makahil). The general lore is that The mother of Xeebjire was Aden Yonis.

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I haven't gotten any J mtDNAs on my list yet. Perhaps we should also inquire about the OP's mother to satiate our curiosity.

she is Habar Yusif

I've heard that Xeebjire does not refer to them being from sea/coast but due to their progenitor named above who travelled to the Coastal Urban hubs of Saylac and Berbera to preach Islam thus eventually his offspring being named "Ilma-Xeebjire" and who later on changed it to just "Xeebjire"

We'll have to wait until a Western fella from Cali Ganuun does a test. Once he does the test and gets T, it will prove we're the only real clan in the North

From my reading and asking elderly family members, that seems the story that is told.

 

[iftiina]

Im warsengeli, so i wonder how mines is gonna show up if i do one, alot of people say warsengeli are mixed with indian or something like that

 

[NidarNidar]

Im warsengeli, so i wonder how mines is gonna show up if i do one, alot of people say warsengeli are mixed with indian or something like that

You'll never know until you get it done, I would wait for it to go on sale, I got it for my Granny originally but was on sale for 79 euros, I'm still waiting on her results.

 

[The alchemist]

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[NidarNidar]

The black-headed sheep are also found in Iran. Would be cool if we were the ones who introduced it to them since we had contact with them since ancient times.

The wild ancestors of those black-headed sheep are native to central Asia.

 

[wassa wassa]

Spot on lol

Congrats to you my Gadabursi/Dir brother, from HJ

 

[The alchemist]

The wild ancestors of those black-headed sheep are native to central Asia.

That's not the case, man. Domesticated sheep are from Southwest Asia. And the ancestor of the Blackhead sheep was another type of domesticated sheep.

 

[Sophisticate]

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The first three pages and excluded the Arabian admixed:

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[The alchemist]

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[NidarNidar]

That makes sense.

That would explain the coastal connection.

I'm waiting for at least one Ali Ganuun to do the test. It would be nice to see the results.

You were correct. He would have shown up with a Landcruiser and cha-cha-ed into this thread with a colourful bracelet as though it were May 19th.

I was going to be conservative and say Fiqishini (but there aren't that many) or Cissa, but they tend to claim Djbouti wholesale. I should have defaulted to Occam's razor.

I have Jibrain confirmed as T-L208 on 23andme, so that confirms all Bah Xarago tested so far being T-L208.

 

[Waaberi]

I have Jibrain confirmed as T-L208 on 23andme, so that confirms all Bah Xarago tested so far being T-L208.

Can we now talk about where this sheekhaal myth came from. I am xebjire pure ah and my reer abti is xeebjire too Aabaha hoyadiina waa jibrill yonis. I need to know more about xeebjires. Some are resides in Ethiopia like chiro as I saw your message and your ayeyo lived there. Can we please do some research thanks

 

[NidarNidar]

Can we now talk about where this sheekhaal myth came from. I am xebjire pure ah and my reer abti is xeebjire too Aabaha hoyadiina waa jibrill yonis. I need to know more about xeebjires. Some are resides in Ethiopia like chiro as I saw your message and your ayeyo lived there. Can we please do some research thanks

A number of us came to the same conclusion, the Sheekhaal was a title/order originally based in Harar, after the Adal wars, everyone dispersed back home, or made agreements.

Xeebjire is just a nickname given to Ismaaciil, myself and @Araabi(Reer Ugaas) share several unique snps hopefully if more of us take the big y will get a unique subclade.