400,000 Women and children have died in Southern Somalia from Starvation (in 6 Months!)

[Agent 47]

WTF.

Why isn't this being dealt with be Konfurians?

Look at the comments as well. Typical sociopathic cadaans.

Not true at all. The worst femine In a decade happened in 2011.

 

[World]

Nomads need to modernise and urbanise or they will die out. 21st century is not a time for nomadic desert dwellers. Even the braindead Arabs realised this and developed their countries.

1) Lower and Middle Shabelle are farming regions under Al Shabab which have experienced consecutive failed rains due to climate change/el nino effect leading to crop failure and famine. They’re not nomads.

2) There is no desert like Arabia in Somalia, the correct term is semi-arid. Our country is 80 % pasture and grasslands.

3) What do you propose 1+ million nomads to do with their 70+ million livestock if they urbanised? What employment would they have in cities? Or are you proposing that these people abandon their sole source of livelihood in return for unemployment? Arabs didn’t realise anything either, the Europeans discovered some of the highest oil & gas deposits in the world in their land. That doesn’t make them competent.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

This cant be true lol

 

[RasCanjero-]

Lower and Middle Shabelle are farming regions, not nomadic. They died because they are Al Shabab regions.

Doubt more than 100 people, if even that, died in Puntland/Somaliland from the droughts.

Oh didn't see the South Somalia part. Just see it as a semi relevant rant.

Nomads need to modernise and urbanise or they will die out. 21st century is not a time for nomadic desert dwellers. Even the braindead Arabs realised this and developed their countries.

Those Arabs produce more than 10 million barrels of oil a day.

Maybe if we invested a couple billion into sustainable jobs in our urban centres we could accommodate them.

Right now livestock exports makes up the biggest part of our economy and they can't do that in cities unless they use expensive animal feeds.

Again your using out of touch eurocentric types of arguments, our population is relatively small compared to most other nations, 90% of the problems are caused by these very western institutions you tout mostly through NGO's and their support for terrorists.

Why do you think every first world country strictly protects it's local produce and agricultural sectors which are heavily subsidised by their governments? look at the recent deal between EU and Japan, the longest and most toughest part is discussions around food, each wanting to protect it's own.

It doesn't matter how much funding you collect from Somali's or even all Ethiopian's put together for a business model that rivals Amazon or google, you will simply fail every time as they can lock you out easily.

That's the war that is taking place not just in Somalia but all third world countries, the destruction of their agriculture through NGO's and food aid programs, even the farmers back home are catching in on this.

This poor lady in the video below will soon find herself out of business as a result of these practices while you continue to talk about population reduction which is the cheap propaganda which the elitist satanists churn out for the sheeple masses.

I thought you were better then this, the opposite is always the case from the satanists propaganda's, more kids only increase their chance of survival.

The young generation today are totally different, the amount of productive things they are engaging in especially small scale food growth has even shocked me, I will be soon employing some of them just for this, the Turks have brought in a lot of seeds and technical know how's which they are learning.

When your a poor nation especially like us with a small population, decreasing it is absolutely suicidal on every measurable scale.

Not sure if you read my posts.

I didn't say we should have less kids but instead suggested we should accept it and find a way to live around it.

Nor did I propose aid as that goes counter to my whole point of self- sustainable communities through new ways to manage pastorial societies.

If you just wanted to rant then don't @ me and put words in my mouth.

 

[BenInHer]

Audibillah, may allah ease there suffering...

 

[Prince Abubu]

Livestock export is unreliable, low ROI, and is very volatile e.g. Saudi banning Somali livestock whenever they feel like, animals get sick and die. We need to ween ourselves off low tech primary industries like agriculture and livestock and focus on cheap manufacture and heavy industry (though even that will soon be out of our reach with increased automation making cheap labour virtually pointless).

 

[Ferrari]

Let's get real.

If those mother's had only 1 or 2 kids then they would have more adaptability in finding new lifestyles and incomes.

However by giving birth at a young age and having 5+ kids; how are they going to get away from pastoralism when it's all that they know?

They can't expect their relatives to take care of their 5+ kids in order to take a chance finding new income sources since those relatives probably are in a similar situation.

They won't have the chance to learn something new either with half a dozen kids to feed.

Not saying we should have less kids as it's up to destiny that we can't control...

However we should think of ways to mitigate the predicament these poor mothers are in through rural initiatives to help groups optimize their access and use of resources, time and opportunities with the minimum of external funding.

Nomads as their names suggest; have to keep moving all the time to feed their livestock so traditional community support systems won't work as well with them.

However if we don't find a solution soon; don't expect the intermittent food aid to change their lives for the better in the long-term.

It doesn't really matter if they have one or 10, they'll still struggle to feed them.
unemployment is probably above 90% there, and they don't get welfare like you do sxb. So how would she feed one child?
Those who can eat most rely on money sent from the diaspora.

 

[Ferrari]

Livestock export is unreliable, low ROI, and is very volatile e.g. Saudi banning Somali livestock whenever they feel like, animals get sick and die. We need to ween ourselves off low tech primary industries like agriculture and livestock and focus on cheap manufacture and heavy industry (though even that will soon be out of our reach with increased automation making cheap labour virtually pointless).

What needs to be done is create jobs for people, sustainable jobs. But to do that you need a peaceful country and that is something that isn't even on the horizon. No one is working to fix the peace there. NO one is working against alshabab. NO one is working on creating employment for people.
You have bunch of Mps who get paid a western salary to do nothing other than to push a motion once in a while. The next famine will kill more than that.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

What needs to be done is create jobs for people, sustainable jobs. But to do that you need a peaceful country and that is something that isn't even on the horizon. No one is working to fix the peace there. NO one is working against alshabab. NO one is working on creating employment for people.
You have bunch of Mps who get paid a western salary to do nothing other than to push a motion once in a while. The next famine will kill more than that.

Yes, we need get our priorities sorted first.

Before sustainable jobs however, we need sustainable food and we stop relying on NGO's to feed us. It's becoming a vicious cycle.

 

[Ferrari]

Yes, we need get our priorities sorted first.

Before sustainable jobs however, we need sustainable food and we stop relying on NGO's to feed us. It's becoming a vicious cycle.

There are 14million people. half are probably kids if not more, leaving 7million, if u remove those who can't work because of a disability of some form, old people, u are probably left with 5 million at most. How hard is it to employ that many people if we really tried? not that hard.
they need food right? well they are going to have to work and most people are willing to work, but they can't find work and if they did, how could they work when they could end up dead one day while working?

 

[Inquisitive_]

That video is sad Is there anyway to counteract this without war?

There is a few effective ways to fight this outside of a clueless corrupt government incapable of banning these people, number one is wide scale awareness in the community, so that anyone that works for the NGO's is reviled and their offices destroyed, you want to make life as much of a hell for them as possible.

The second tier strategy is growing your own food especially when your weak as a nation, I see this happening already, I will be employing someone soon to do this for my family and teach them as well, they will be composting their own food and waste to use as natural organic fertilisers.

This can then grow from the individual family level to a small scale trusted community level, the powers that be cannot stop this when this is happening everywhere in Somalia, they can only overpower you if you do this on a national level, because all they need to do is take that farmer out of business and close to 1 million people will suffer the ramifications.

This is how people in the past lived totally of the grid, any surplus food is bartered with other communities for things they lack, electricity will come from cheap solar panels from China and water sources will come from the ground, rain collection or small reservoirs built as communities, your own urine is the best fertiliser that should never be wasted.

People in Somalia are currently starting this on a family level already (we are too), this will quickly become hot especially now with the Turks bringing in all the seeds and know how's, that's why the powers that be want these guys out!

When your self sufficient like this and off the grid, you also plug out of the usury based one-sided financial system that's designed to enslave you forever, you control your own destiny and regardless what kinds of wars break out, you will be immune while everyone else starves to death as the shelf's in the supermarkets empty.

 

[World]

The NGOS and foreign aid is the only thing stopping hundreds of thousands of people in Southern Somalia from dropping dead overnight. This is one thing you can’t fault the Cadaan colonialists for.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Again your using out of touch eurocentric types of arguments, our population is relatively small compared to most other nations, 90% of the problems are caused by these very western institutions you tout mostly through NGO's and their support for terrorists.

Why do you think every first world country strictly protects it's local produce and agricultural sectors which are heavily subsidised by their governments? look at the recent deal between EU and Japan, the longest and most toughest part is discussions around food, each wanting to protect it's own.

It doesn't matter how much funding you collect from Somali's or even all Ethiopian's put together for a business model that rivals Amazon or google, you will simply fail every time as they can lock you out easily.

That's the war that is taking place not just in Somalia but all third world countries, the destruction of their agriculture through NGO's and food aid programs, even the farmers back home are catching in on this.

This poor lady in the video below will soon find herself out of business as a result of these practices while you continue to talk about population reduction which is the cheap propaganda which the elitist satanists churn out for the sheeple masses.

I thought you were better then this, the opposite is always the case from the satanists propaganda's, more kids only increase their chance of survival.

The young generation today are totally different, the amount of productive things they are engaging in especially small scale food growth has even shocked me, I will be soon employing some of them just for this, the Turks have brought in a lot of seeds and technical know how's which they are learning.

When your a poor nation especially like us with a small population, decreasing it is absolutely suicidal on every measurable scale.

NGOs are a curse. They are secret CIA/Mossad operatives that do nothing but steal aid money and spy on Somalis. The first thing Somali leaders need to do is get rid of all foreigners except a few skilled medical workers. But Somali leaders themselves secretly take orders from these fake Aid workers.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

The NGOS and foreign aid is the only thing stopping hundreds of thousands of people in Southern Somalia from dropping dead overnight. This is one thing you can’t fault the Cadaan colonialists for.

You may say that, but don't you think the NGO's are stopping people making their own food?
How long are we going to rely to spoon feed us, when we are capable of making our own food?

 

[World]

You may say that, but don't you think the NGO's are stopping people making their own food?
How long are we going to rely to spoon feed us, when we are capable of making our own food?

Southern Somali farmers are having crop failure year after year due to insufficient rainfall leading to famine. The NGOs and foreign aid from EU/USA are the ones who are feeding these people. If they were the problem, then why are people in Al Shabab regions dropping like flies?

 

[Inquisitive_]

NGOs are a curse. They are secret CIA/Missed operatives that do nothing but steal aid money and spy on Somalis. The first thing Somali leaders need to do is get rid of all foreigners except a few skilled medical workers. But Somali leaders themselves secretly take order from these fake Aid workers.

They can't because they don't have the power to and are totally dependent on them financially, they are citizens of those very same countries, there is absolutely no way in hell they would jeopardise their own citizenship or their families, it's a massive conflict of interest.

They don't even need to threaten them it's already implied like that homeless guy staying in your house because you took pity on him, there is no way he will raise his voice against you.

HSM worked for the NGO's (as do most politician's and leaders), Farmaajo is a citizen of the country that heaped the most destruction upon us, the hush money (some call salary) are also paid by them.

That homeless guy you took pity on staying in your house has more freedom then they have. It's all a brilliant orchestrated CIA operation from tip to toe, and the CIA itself answers to those private central banksters (Rothschild)

That's why the only way to get out of this is to grow your own food on a family level, then slowly towards a community level to become totally independent, anything on a national level they can easily destroy.

I thought long a hard about an effective strategy around these parasites and that's the only one I can think off which we are already implementing on the ground, it's going back to the old days rather then sit and wait for dead food aid to arrive and watch more farmers go out of business.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Southern Somali farmers are having crop failure year after year due to insufficient rainfall leading to famine. The NGOs and foreign aid from EU/USA are the ones who are feeding these people. If they were the problem, then why are people in Al Shabab regions dropping like flies?

Wait so if NGO's are feeding people, but they still dying from famine, then what does that say about the NGO's?

 

[World]

Wait so if NGO's are feeding people, but they still dying from famine, then what does that say about the NGO's?

The ones dying are in regions controlled by Al Shabab. NGOs are banned there and are not allowed to operate.

 

[Lostbox]

That site has no idea what they are talking about. The children are their retirement plan.

 

[Prince Abubu]

That site has no idea what they are talking about. The children are their retirement plan.

Some retarded cadaans with their "muh grandaddy pulled up his bootstraps..." Spiel.

Listen Timmy, you're grandad didn't grow up in Somalia, a war-torn African desert country so STFU.