I don’t understand why people think erdogan the Sufi should lead the Islamic nation when we have real Muslims like Saudi
"54 muslim countries and we have no a single member in the UN security council...we need a reform in
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Saudia Arabia is the twin sister of Israel you might aswell say let’s get Benjamin Netanyahu to lead the Islamic Nations.
That’s hearsay bro
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: (The Prophet) said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham (Syria) and our Yemen.” People said, “Our Najd as well.” The Prophet again said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen.” They said again, “Our Najd as well.” On that the Prophet said, “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there appears the Horn of Satan.” (Book #17, Hadith #147, Bukhari)
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So you’re tryna say Sheikh Muhammad bin AbdalWahab is the horn of Satan
If you’re willing to identify with 54 Muslim countries, why isn’t your first priority to improve quality of life and end civil conflict in those countries? Those majority of those countries’ leadership is hated by their populations because they don’t deliver for them. If you don’t have sinister, global domination intentions, why don’t you worry about the internal problems of those countries? A seat on the UN Security Council means nothing if your populations hate you and they don’t have a means of throwing you out.
The entire reason why those five countries were given veto power was to keep two rebellious and gifted countries in check, namely Germany and Japan. Russia was made a member to block Germany's aspirations to influence eastern European countries. France and UK make sure Germany doesnt look west. China to keep Japan under control, and the US is the leader. The winners of the WW2 deciding who can eat and who starves.
No he was working with the British Lawrence of Arabia to be precise he was an agent.
I am A slave of Saudi I only hear his word then I obey
That's more an accurate description, the second Saudi says your islam is false, u will follow again!!! Great thing is saudi is reforming with mohamed bin salman, so your ass will reform at the same time!!!
People don't realize saudi is returning to a moderate islam, a secular based islam mind u!!! those days of extremism are gone, why? cuz it holds no more value for them, to many players in the extremist game and their losing influence in that sphere. So they gotta create a new type of islam where they are the major player only and cognitive will follow. Can u imagine cognitive going against any saudi arabia says? i highly doubt it.
The only reason extremism got popular was because the majority of muslim world was moderate back then in the 60s//70s and saudi used this form of islam to bring back it's influence and differentiate from other muslims. Now most of the muslim world has joined this extremist idea, it's actually working against them and they need to start all over again and differentiate. What do u differentiate extremism with well it's moderates!!!
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The Saudis ain’t extreme?
War aniga ma walaan miise caden ba lagaa heesayaa
There’s no moderate there’s only Muslims and the extremists are call khawrij and Saudia Arabia Israel’s twin sister is an extremist in their views.
This is the Islam that I envision that of Córdoba that gave life to the European Renaissance
No wonder your not moving forward, your stuck in the past!!! But time keeps ticking with or without u thats the sad thing u dont get. U think just cuz u look backwards, it means time will go backwards for u!!!
It dont really matter cognitiive, mohamed bin salman the great new reformer is gonna change u, u worship them sxb and where they go you go. If mohamed bin salman says jump, u say how high!!! Change is happening and its going forward and i know u will come along cuz u worship saudi in reality.
@DR OSMAN Am I wrong in saying that the United Nations charter stipulates that the security council is the supreme law giver not Allah? If all these countries signed up to the United Nations pledging an allegiance to the United Nations security council as the supreme law giver instead of Allah can you call them Muslim Nations.
narrated by Abu Musa al-Ash'ari رضي الله عنه stating that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said:
أيها الناس، اتقوا هذا الشرك، فإنه أخفى من دبيب النمل، فقال له من شاء الله أن يقول: وكيف نتقيه وهو أخفى من دبيب النمل يا رسول الله؟ قال: قولوا: اللهم إنا نعوذ بك من أن نشرك بك شيئاً نعلمه، ونستغفره لما لا نعلم
"O people, save yourselves from shirk, for it is more inconspicuous than the creeping of the ant. Someone whom Allah willed (to speak) asked:
'How do we save ourselves from it while it is more inconspicuous than the creeping of the ant O Messenger of Allah?' He صلي الله عليه وسلم said:
'Say: O Allah we seek refuge in You from associating anything with You knowingly, and we seek Your forgiveness for what we do unknowingly.'"
It is recorded in Musnad Ahmad, 4/403; Musnad Abi Shaybah, 6/70; Musnad Abi Ya’la, 1/60 and others.
narrated by Abu Musa al-Ash'ari رضي الله عنه stating that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said:
أيها الناس، اتقوا هذا الشرك، فإنه أخفى من دبيب النمل، فقال له من شاء الله أن يقول: وكيف نتقيه وهو أخفى من دبيب النمل يا رسول الله؟ قال: قولوا: اللهم إنا نعوذ بك من أن نشرك بك شيئاً نعلمه، ونستغفره لما لا نعلم
"O people, save yourselves from shirk, for it is more inconspicuous than the creeping of the ant. Someone whom Allah willed (to speak) asked:
'How do we save ourselves from it while it is more inconspicuous than the creeping of the ant O Messenger of Allah?' He صلي الله عليه وسلم said:
'Say: O Allah we seek refuge in You from associating anything with You knowingly, and we seek Your forgiveness for what we do unknowingly.'"
It is recorded in Musnad Ahmad, 4/403; Musnad Abi Shaybah, 6/70; Musnad Abi Ya’la, 1/60 and others.
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The whole Saudi state was created by the British today Israel and the United States are Saudia Arabia closest allies no wonder you a secularist is praising them cause naturally they’re your allies against Muslims in Yemen Afghanistan Somalia Palestine Syria pakistan
Stop acting like you don't worship Saudi Arabia, just dont go there sxb. Everyone knows u does, your Islamic interpretation would not be possible if it wasn't for saudi giving u access to their 'scholars' in the past, those who say what they want them to say!!!
What law are u talking about bro? how are people who don't share a culture, religion, geography supposed to set up rules? Your trying to shove your beliefs down people throat who don't believe and it will lead to a war in the end like it always has in the past. The only mutual ground is secular, meaning intellect n reason based systems since both of u have brains, may the best man with the most smartest idea win!!!
I am not going into a verse war with u, u will read a scholar who says wat u want, i will read a scholar who says wat i want. It's an endless loop. The key that I take from that is, you read into the quran how u want that's the only consistent part.
There is no other explanation why islam has changed since the 7th century till today on how it rules. But u just like arguments bro, i prefer reason n intellect!!! I will not get into a verse war with u, if it's not backed up by brain and reason, im sorry cuz how can u be right if it doesnt align with intelligence. It simply cant be right cuz allah has to be smartest hence the interpretation has to come as close as possible to the smartest one that everyone can agree on.
You’re here praising Saudia Arabia while I am praying for Yemen who’s closer to Allah agiain? Certainly not crypto jews al saud the audacity of those s they named the blessed land that the two holy mosques are in after themselves as if they own it nacaalad ba ku taalo kuwas illahay naarta haku foogayo boowe waa cadow ninyaho hadalkaada badan waa ku wareerey let’s just agree to disagree.
If u think honestly bro saudi really cares about islam your sadly mistaken. War waxani waa sidi awood loo heli laha wax kale ma aha, wa arin dadka lagu kala qaybin karo oo awood lagu radsado wax kale ma aha!!! It's purely driven by power and greed, manta hadi umada ku heeshiyan awood iyo lacag ma jirayso qofki diin doonayo, they would never seek religion and would quickly be atheists these people.
Dadka dhabta ah diinta aminsan illahi bay xirir la lee yihin, waxani aduunka maba kala jecla waa hadi xaqiiqda loo hadlayo!!!
Besides in Somalia diinta waa just a cover anyways, the real driving force there is tribal. Religion is just a project the leaders can get money from arabs on but tribal dynamics are far more powerful there then religion!!! Religion is mainly used as another way to get into power when they can't access it thru political means!!! But people who truly believe in god don't have anything to prove to bin-adan sxb, thats the truth and Infact I think it's the worst form of shirk to seek earthly things using god as an excuse!!! your real desire is earthly matters but ur using god as a cover basically. Those people are not really religious at all, if u take away their earthly desires, their religion is over!!!
Don't get me wrong, im not saying we should all adopt secular systems. I think we should all differentiate how we use intellect n reason to govern our lives in islamic countries. I would like to see a bunch of differing intellect n reason based govts in islamic lands not just one type a democracy. We could then learn from each other which is the best and adapt it and grow it out. At least we started from a good base. It's like a row of flowers, i want the base to be the same(intellect n reason) but the flowers can have many different shapes and sizes and colors. The last thing I want is everyone copying each other with identical systems. It causes a one point failure which can affect everyone but at least if we differiantate some can survive on.
Don't get me wrong, im not saying we should all adopt secular systems. I think we should all differentiate how we use intellect n reason to govern our lives in islamic countries. I would like to see a bunch of differing intellect n reason based govts in islamic lands not just one type a democracy. We could then learn from each other which is the best and adapt it and grow it out. At least we started from a good base. It's like a row of flowers, i want the base to be the same(intellect n reason) but the flowers can have many different shapes and sizes and colors. The last thing I want is everyone copying each other with identical systems. It causes a one point failure which can affect everyone but at least if we differiantate some can survive on.
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Adeer we see what you did there.
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There are only 53 as Somaliland ain't recognize yet.
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