72% of Certain Community live in Social Housing - UK MP

Theres soo many posts nowadays of u guys being scared of wht some non somali says. Like chill dont panic. Youve been living among them ur whole life and theyve always been like this. Its not somali trolls fault. All you need is POLITICAL representation so they dont try to f with u legally.
 
The thing is though, the statistic of us being in social housing is from the 2021 Census. Our ethnic group data has been widely released to the public by the ONS (it's easily accessible). When I've tried to look at the data of other ethnic groups such as: pakistanis, eritreans, ghanians, congolese, theirs aren't publicly and easily accessible - you have to do a FOI request! We have haters within the civil service!

This is why I was against moronic Somalis asking for the Somali box on census data!

I always said just write African black and keep it moving. Why write Somali?????

Now racist can target us specifically.

Next census we should go back to just writing black African again.
 
There was a documentary called "British Somalis A Community Under Seige" from the war on terror era that documented it. But I think it may have been done by Press TV which was banned during the ongoing genocide off of many platforms. I cannot find it anymore. @Idilinaa

@Kisame @AppleBoat398 @sigmund and others. All have serious grudge and cuqdaad against the Somali community. These right wingers or whatever trolls are just a way for them to communicate it indirectly via these people.

They are trying inflict hate and bring Somali down and make them dislike their ethnicity and bring other nationalities against us via trolls. Thats really the goal of these threads.

Sigmund said ''The whole ''Somali identity'' should be dismantled'' so they are revealing their motives.

It's like you said Brother Galool said , we've been through many bad political climates, scrutiny and have managed to come through it. People have been b*tch*ng and accusing Somalis of all sorts for decades now.

She mentions madow people against Somalis are due to trolls. What a load of BS. There are many black people that have always had problems with us due to Islamophobia and fear of african immigrants getting preferential treatment.

This is an article from 2001, more than 20 years ago.

African-American and Somali Students Clash at Roosevelt High School​

Junior Nimco Ahmed said she believes that the problem is based on cultural and religious differences" that can easily be misunderstood."
Some African-American students say there is resentment among them because they think teachers regard Somali students as better behaved and give them preferential treatment."

You can find videos and Articles of UK/London back in early 2000s of Black people saying similar things beefing us because of our religion and because they percieve we are getting preferential treatment or other reasons. At the same time they beef other communities, it's Somalis that fight back the hardest and don't seek their approval.

I can find studies from 2013 where they collect posts and comments on the internet, and the comments they make is some unhinged stuff. But the conclusion is apparent
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We've been experiencing the same things since the first time we arrived.

And we have never abandoned who we are, whether it's our Islamic faith or our Somali identity. We have never abandoned our community. It is not a lander vs Somalia thing either which is a division they want to fostrer which is why they bring it up all over this thread. Those people who hate on Somalis don't care wether you are from Somaliland or wether you are from Somalia, it's all the same to them.

When Somalis are under attack they come together to fight back, we unite in support of one another. Thats how it's always been, We are not going to do an Exodus to Somalia and run back like some cowards we are going to fight to assert our rights, simple as that.
 
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"Wait are you implying tons of young somali men arent in college? You have got to be projecting"

I already know our stats would be better in a 20 years. Im just saying right now our stats are looking atrocious because of our parents generation and the older millennials.

"Somalis are of course going to be disadvantaged have you completely forgotten our situation. "

Nigga we all know this. Racist people literally don't give AF about any of this. In fact they use this shit as ammo to dunk on us. They always yap about how dumb it was to import a bunch of "low IQ" and "backwards" somalis to the west.

UK niggas just gave them even more ammo with this census classification.
Well said. Also in our Census 48% of somalis are under the age of 21 and there was another large influx of somalis between 2010-2021.

However, only our group census was released to the public. I can't find the pakistani census, bengali census, kurdish census, iranian census, jamaican census, nigerian census without doing a freedom of information request. Even then they won't reveal how many of them are using social housing!

Why has only ours been released to the public?
 
@Kisame @AppleBoat398 @sigmund and others. All have serious grudge and cuqdaad against the Somali community. These right wingers or whatever trolls are just a way for them to communicate it indirectly via these people.

They are trying inflict hate and bring Somali down and make them dislike their ethnicity and bring other nationalities against us via trolls. Thats really the goal of these threads.

Sigmund said ''The whole ''Somali identity'' should be dismantled'' so they are revealing their motives.

It's like you said Brother Galool said , we've been through many bad political climates, scrutiny and have managed to come through it. People have been b*tch*ng and accusing Somalis of all sorts for decades now.

She mentions madow people against Somalis are due to trolls. What a load of BS. There are many black people that have always had problems with us due to Islamophobia and fear of african immigrants getting preferential treatment.

This is an article from 2001, more than 20 years ago.

African-American and Somali Students Clash at Roosevelt High School​




You can find videos and Articles of UK/London back in early 2000s of Black people saying similar things beefing us because of our religion and because they percieve we are getting preferential treatment or other reasons. At the same time they beef other communities, it's Somalis that fight back the hardest and don't seek their approval.

I can find studies from 2013 where they collect posts and comments on the internet, and the comments they make is some unhinged stuff. But the conclusion is apparent
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We've been experiencing the same things since the first time we arrived.

And we have never abandoned who we are, whether it's our Islamic faith or our Somali identity. We have never abandoned our community. It is not a lander vs Somalia thing either which is a division they want to fostrer which is why they bring it up all over this thread. Those people who hate on Somalis don't care wether you are from Somaliland or wether you are from Somalia, it's all the same to them.

When Somalis are under attack they come together to fight back, we unite in support of one another. Thats how it's always been, We are not going to do an Exodus to Somalia and run back like some cowards we are going to fight to assert our rights, simple as that.
I knew you were projecting earlier.
Let me make it clear:

I don't care about what random black people or other people with no power say about somalis.


This time, however, famous politicians are using anti-somali rhetoric which is commonly used online and are being used in parliament! This is massively concerning. Go look at the tweet
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LOOK AT THE FIRST LINE............HE INTENTIONALLY IS TRYING ENCOURAGE ANTI SOMALI HATE!

IN THE QUOTE TWEETS YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE FAMOUS AND POWERFUL MPS OR PEOPLE IN POLTIICS PUSHING THIS AGENDA:

ROBERT JENRICH - SOMEONE WHO RAN EARLIER TO BE THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEANING HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE FUTURE LEADER OF ENGLAND

NIGEL FARAGE - LEADER OF THE FASTEST GROWING PARTY

OTHER REFORM AND CONSERVATIVE MPS

YOU ALSO SEE FAMOUS POLITICAL COMMENTATORS (WHO CONTROL NATIONAL CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS) IN THERE!

YOU ARE IN DENIAL!!!!!!!!
 
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@AppleBoat398 @TheLand @berberaboy66 @Sigmundd

I really hate how vulnerable we are currently. The trolls really decided to make everyone hate us at the worst time ever.

Look at Indians for example. Indian Americans literally have the highest household income in America

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Even if they experience hate online their youth don't have to worry about dealing with discrimination that much irl. They literally don't have to share spaces with ignorant and racist people. They all have "f*ck you" money.

Their kids are raised in good environments and go to great schools. Tons of their young men arent in the streets. They literally graduate college at high rates with stem and finance degrees.

Meanwhile somalis are way more poor. We have lots of somalis working alongside other low income people. The working class is filled to the brim with racist and ignorant people. By default we will most likely deal with way more B.S irl compared to indians.

Look at the Jews. Those people are hated by everyone in the west and I've barely even seen any irl. In america they rarely leave their wealthy middle/upper class enclaves.

Indians are a highly self selected group , it's the only the small minority of Indians that have education and money that immigrate to the united states under HB1 visas directly into the work force. Not the average Indian in India who is dirt poor and lives in slums and can't get access to basic education.

Do you not see what is wrong with this picture? Why are their own people with skills and education leaving to live comfortably in the west while the living standards of their people back home deteriorates?

They are literally draining their own home countries knowledge, talents and resources: India lose 160 billion dollars every year and widening shortage of skilled labor and professionals.
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This is the main difference between Somalis and Indians.
Somalis in the west came under a different circumstance and priorities. We immigrate here so a portion of us can either go back or send back to our home country. We don't exclusively drain Somalia, we enrich it by sending back resources.

Much of the perceptions and hate come from this:

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This is why i don't trip over what racist say, they can rage all they want. We will continue to do whats best for us.

"Wait are you implying tons of young somali men arent in college? You have got to be projecting"

I already know our stats would be better in a 20 years. Im just saying right now our stats are looking atrocious because of our parents generation and the older millennials.

"Somalis are of course going to be disadvantaged have you completely forgotten our situation. "

Nigga we all know this. Racist people literally don't give AF about any of this. In fact they use this shit as ammo to dunk on us. They always yap about how dumb it was to import a bunch of "low IQ" and "backwards" somalis to the west.

UK niggas just gave them even more ammo with this census classification.

This is from a study published in 2020, showing that Somali employment in the UK has increased by almost 100% since 1998. It also worthy to point out like this study shows that that the figures don't account for Somalis employed in the ''informal labour market'' which will make it higher. This is mostly our parents generation and older millennials who had to overcome barriers and obstacles it speaks of in the last sentence.


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These our stats in London schools and how Somalis are performing well and raising their educational attainment at higher rates. So if we are low IQ and backward , how we outperforming white/cadaan students ?
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In many of the schools we outperform the national average

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You and @AppleBoat398 Need to loose the facade it's not about what racists believe, its you guys have some grudge against Somalis. That's really what i boils down to, don't hide behind right wing talking points. You don't care about how much better Somalis are doing in spite of our obstacles.

I look at the gains & successes my people have made and i am truly inspired by it. And want to add on to it and improve on it.
 
Living in social housing does not mean you’re collecting social benefits. Many Somalis work and live in council homes, which many white people do as well BTW.

Also, the MP won’t have any clue about social media posts by trolls. I doubt the views of Somali trolls reach parliament. What he is saying is more to do with the political climate relating to a social housing crisis in the Uk and wider fears over immigration. MPs have made similar comments about Albanian crime gangs etc. UK politics is shifting more and this kind of sentiment will become more and common especially as Tory party members try to reach Reform voters.

Somalis not buying homes is to due to low household incomes, not wanting to take riba etc…..So, yes we are probably over represented in those stats. Buying your council house is the easiest and cheapest way to become a home owner. I know many white people who have done this and rent/sell their council home to move out of the ends. A few Somalis have also done this; however, many chose not to as this also involves interest based mortgage and some don’t see it as important as long as they have a council flat.
 

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Social housing is inherited by your children in the UK, but not your grandchildren.

If your salary increases to 1 million, you still keep your social housing.

A small community like Somalis that moved to London as refugees were all given social housing by the local councils in London a long time ago.
 
I knew you were projecting earlier.
Let me make it clear:

I don't care about what random black people or other people with no power say about somalis.


This time, however, famous politicians are using anti-somali rhetoric which is commonly used online and are being used in parliament! This is massively concerning. Go look at the tweet
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LOOK AT THE FIRST LINE............HE INTENTIONALLY IS TRYING ENCOURAGE ANTI SOMALI HATE!

IN THE QUOTE TWEETS YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE FAMOUS AND POWERFUL MPS OR PEOPLE IN POLTIICS PUSHING THIS AGENDA:

ROBERT JENRICH - SOMEONE WHO RAN EARLIER TO BE THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEANING HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE FUTURE LEADER OF ENGLAND

NIGEL FARAGE - LEADER OF THE FASTEST GROWING PARTY

OTHER REFORM AND CONSERVATIVE MPS

YOU ALSO SEE FAMOUS POLITICAL COMMENTATORS (WHO CONTROL NATIONAL CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS) IN THERE!

YOU ARE IN DENIAL!!!!!!!!

The only one projecting is you. Anti-Somalii ku dhiimo. The guy brought it up and was refuted by another MP in the same clip
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These far right politicians hate immigrants and Islam daily & scapegoat them and you are losing your mind over a mere mention of Somalis connected to this by a politician which has received rebuke from other MPS that disagree with him.

Even by other Somali Labour party politicians and Tower Hamlet Labour Group has voiced their disagreement, as you have shown. And he reiterates what i mentioned in my first post on this thread to you that it's related to the housing crisis UK is experiencing
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Relying on government housing for a long period time is poor people shit. I bet most of that 30% are poor uneducated citizens.

We have a lot of old Somali men retiring in the next 20 years. Most of them will have lived in government housing for most their life in the west.
No, this doesn't mean you're uneducated. In the Netherlands, the maximum rent for social housing is around 850 euros, and you're eligible for social housing if your annual income is up to 48,000 euros.

By comparison, the average rent outside of social housing is about 1,200 euros. With a median salary of 43,000 euros, why would you choose to rent on the open market when social housing could save you 500 euros a month?

I’m not sure how it works in the UK. when are you even eligible for social housing?
 
Social housing is inherited by your children in the UK, but not your grandchildren.

If your salary increases to 1 million, you still keep your social housing.

A small community like Somalis that moved to London as refugees were all given social housing by the local councils in London a long time ago.
they should really be saving to buy their house they all have eight kids they can do it
 
they should really be saving to buy their house they all have eight kids they can do it


Not everyone has the option to buy their social house. Some of these social houses are rented from private landlords, the ones that you can buy are limited with huge waiting list.
 
I knew you were projecting earlier.
Let me make it clear:

I don't care about what random black people or other people with no power say about somalis.


This time, however, famous politicians are using anti-somali rhetoric which is commonly used online and are being used in parliament! This is massively concerning. Go look at the tweet
View attachment 347528

LOOK AT THE FIRST LINE............HE INTENTIONALLY IS TRYING ENCOURAGE ANTI SOMALI HATE!

IN THE QUOTE TWEETS YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE FAMOUS AND POWERFUL MPS OR PEOPLE IN POLTIICS PUSHING THIS AGENDA:

ROBERT JENRICH - SOMEONE WHO RAN EARLIER TO BE THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEANING HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE FUTURE LEADER OF ENGLAND

NIGEL FARAGE - LEADER OF THE FASTEST GROWING PARTY

OTHER REFORM AND CONSERVATIVE MPS

YOU ALSO SEE FAMOUS POLITICAL COMMENTATORS (WHO CONTROL NATIONAL CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS) IN THERE!

YOU ARE IN DENIAL!!!!!!!!
Good you are speaking up. They are counting on your silence. Dont mind others trying to dissmiss it. Its getting srs
 
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