Addressing the possible origin of Somali “Jouke”

[Khaem]

Lol somali aristocrat's didn't want to wear the common and old wrapping garments so they picked up on the garments of aristocrat's they traded with. If this thobe off shoot is Somali culture then the common Somali people would have been wearing a lower standard version (made of cotton for example).

You have zero proof for this just chatting out your arse

A garment that not even 1% of Somali society was wearing isn't going to be considered historical and cultural garment.

Are you okay in the head? You realise pre-industrial revolution literally every Nation had a top aristocratic class that wore lavish garments while the rest of the population dressed in rags?

It wasn't until after industrialisation and mass production of all types of clothing that things only aristocrats wore like Suits became the mainstream for the lower class.

What people today call "cultural clothing" is just what the aristocrats used to wear.

Why should Somalis be any different.

 

[Internet Nomad]

You have zero proof for this just chatting out your arse

Are you okay in the head? You realise pre-industrial revolution literally every Nation had a top aristocratic class that wore lavish garments while the rest of the population dressed in rags?

It wasn't until after industrialisation and mass production of all types of clothing that things only aristocrats wore like Suits became the mainstream for the lower class.

What people today call "cultural clothing" is just what the aristocrats used to wear.

Why should Somalis be any different.

There is no point replying to such comments saxib i read it and instantly knew the type of person behind it.

You could show them entire world’s evidence of somalis doing something impressive and their first thought is how it can actually be attributed to ajanabi.

 

[Khaem]

There is no point replying to such comments saxib i read it and instantly knew the type of person behind it.

You could show them entire world’s evidence of somalis doing something impressive and their first thought is how it can actually be attributed to ajanabi.

These people need to be locked up, it's a mental deficiency.

You see it in every post about Somali culture and history. Anything Somalis achieve or something as simple as Somalis building their own cities, you'll find this kind of people under the comments fighting tooth and nail to credit it to ajnabi

 

[Aseer]

It's called jubbad sxb

Where did you get the term for that?

 

[wonyluvr]

I’ve seen pictures of Syrian/Palestinian and other Middle Eastern Christians wearing similar robes to the Ethiopian nobility. It’s probably a shared Orthodox culture and tradition amongst them.

It is it’s in the bible

 

[Idilinaa]

This is a description of Northern Eastern Somalis in 1242 by the Chinese

I want to add another description but of North Westerners. Tailored Thobes and colorful robes was worn by Somalis throughout the middle ages. Here is a description of Awdal leaders dress code from the 1400s

''And the robes of the Sultan and those of his leaders were adorned with silver and shone on all sides'' Exact description of the dress code of the guys in picture up above, especially the one in the middle.

''And the dagger he [the sultan] carried at this side was richly adorned with gold and precious stones''

A Portuguese description on making of clothing in the Muslim province of Bale when listing it's exports this territory is situated around the fertile shabelle river , the same river where there is cotton cultivation on the lower/middle end of it southern Somalia was being produced.

'' cloths of silk and of another sort finer and more lustrous fairer than silk... and this is a tree called Arid, great with leaves like pomegranate and bears a fruit the size of a fist of the finest wool''

'' and of it they make clothes for their king and lords''

The gold and precious jewels, metals was sourced from mines in Damot, Bale and Hadiyah in the south-west territories.

You see Gold mention a lot among the exports from Zayla.

The Gold trade from the far distant interior of Ethiopia in particular was controlled by a trade route to Zayla and Berbera who exported it and the Southern coastal towns controlled the Gold trade from Sofala.

Gold was in such an abundance that Christians and Muslims would constantly sack each-other and run off with plenty of it, you see this mentioned a lot in the medieval chronicles.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Gold was in such an abundance that Christians and Muslims would constantly sack each-other and run off with plenty of it, you see this mentioned a lot in the medieval chronicles.

Adalites looting nearly a million ounces of gold from Abyssinia is pretty mind-boggling. How much do you think it would be worth if it was converted to medieval gold dinars?

 

[Idilinaa]

Adalites looting nearly a million ounces of gold from Abyssinia is pretty mind-boggling. How much do you think it would be worth if it was converted to medieval gold dinars?

Not all of it was loot though, a lot of it was directly accrued from the mines in their lands like the one in Damot and supplied directly to the adalites.

The province which Shihab ed-Din described as a ''gold mine' was then controlled , he asserts was reportedly ruled by a slave from Damot. He decided to collaborate with Ahmäd's forces , to whom he supplied a thousand ounces of gold.

Not sure, You have to calculate from how much 1 ounce of gold equivalent to 1 gold dinar