Ahmed Madobe Goes to Kenya to ask permission to go to Somalia Summit in U.K while everyone goes str8

[Ferrari]

Don't be a reactionary sxb, both clan's have a long history of resisting gumeeysi, a few crackpots dhabodilif's that can be found in every clan are not representatives at all, I can name a few from every clan, it's meaningless and none of them cares about clan/Islaaminimo or even Somalinimo.

They are all a pack of dogs being used against each other by foreign interest because of how divided they have become and Allah humiliates them further. The leaders are a representatives of the people's state of affairs, if they are mostly good their leadership will be good, if they are rotten so will their leaders.

You just need to take a look at SSPOT diaspora to see how most of them are wicked, far worse then those back home that are less wicked, this condition we are in will not change until a sizeable number of people change.

I was kidding bro. I am past my jaahiliya days.
I don't engage in cyber warfare anymore. and tho I don't believe in clans at all, I'll still defend my tol.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Wathila ibn Al-Asqa’ reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is tribalism?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “That you support your people in wrongdoing.”

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 5119, Grade: Hasan (fair) according to Ibn Hajar

In another narration, he said, “O Messenger of Allah, is it part of tribalism that a man loves his people?” The Prophet said, “No, rather it is tribalism that he supports his people in wrongdoing.”

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3949,



Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, the greatest of people in falsehood is a man who insults another man by disparaging the entire tribe, and a man who disowns his father and accuses his mother of adultery.”

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3761

 

[Odeg]

Madobe represents himself only not the Ogaden tribe and remember he was previously in IUC (which shows that he is not tribalist man) and went for jail in Ethiopia 2 years but unfortunately right now he is working for Kenya and must go and replace with other Ogaden (to show them that no one is targeting them)

I dont think thats possible the next president of Jubaland will most likely be Marehan. Madoobe have been very ineffective and sooner he goes the better for everyone.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I was kidding bro. I am past my jaahiliya days.
I don't engage in cyber warfare anymore. and tho I don't believe in clans at all, I'll still defend my tol.

You were quick to run your mouth at mareexan but now you know he ain't MX you're docile & subservient so I guess it is true what @Ridig Rabah was saying about your people

 

[Lord Flacko]

To correct you Gaas got the permission from Ethiopia to attend during the TANA Forum he attended in which he was the only Somali to do so.

This is how Allah humiliated a group of people when they divide themselves like this, even Farmaajo was being dictated to in Addis Ababa and forced to accept this 18K federal troops which means the current 20.000 SNA will be disbanded

Do you have any idea what will happen when 20.000 troops are disbanded? This plan spearheaded by Britain/Kenya/Ethiopia is to cause a civil war in Somalia, HSM government refused this same plan, but this government signed up to it even going against Turkey.

The whole purpose of this plan was to come against Turkey's plan to train the SNA, Farmaajo/Kheyre government were told the arms embargo will not be lifted UNTIL they accept this which they did, J/land is being forced to accept this, as for Puntland it's what she always wanted and this was part of Gaas condition as well as the interior minister.


The good news is this crazy is qabqabsi currently taking place is a blessing in disguise because all federal states signatures are required for the British plan to go ahead, Hiirshabelle refused to attend this conference because of other disputes, the new Galmudug leader was told by Farmaajo not to attend because he has no invite and only the vice-president had the invite (whom agreed to sign the British documents)

He has refused this order and went behind his back to meet the British consulate whom gave him the invite not knowing he is going there to sabotage, Madoobe I have been told is not happy with this plan either and is being forced by Kenya to accept it, they are playing the tribal card against him threatening to empower the MX in NFD over the Ogaden if he doesn't play ball, even threatening to do the same in J/land.

They have Madoobe literally by the balls here surrounded by Kikuyu troops and Ethiopian backed Shabab in his capital Buale, not looking good for him. This is the fruits of short-term vision qabyaalad, you are used against each other like a pack of dogs.

So they didn't go forward with the revised security plan laid out by the Defense Committee?

 

[Ridig Rabah]

The likes of you who use to put HSM on a pedestal have no right to criticise anyone. Build your own regions, don't obsess about other people.

of all the people you could have chosen to discredit me, you had to chose that khaa'in fat treacherous cambuulisto, how about if we both put a bullet between their servile heads (you gaas and i hsm, and then both on madobe), will that make us move closer to each other in terms of somalinimo/islamnimo, or does the love of Ethiopia weigh heavy on you to turn otherwise

 

[Ferrari]

You were quick to run your mouth at mareexan but now you know he ain't MX you're docile & subservient so I guess it is true what @Ridig Rabah was saying about your people

I spare everyone but small fishermen from bari.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I spare everyone but small fishermen from bari.

So you were going to go off if @Ridig Rabah was mareexan

 

[Inquisitive_]

So they didn't go forward with the revised security plan laid out by the Defense Committee?

What is going is a Machiavellian scheme that muddies the waters, nothing is in writing, I have spoken to several people all with conflicting points all close links to the government, some even part of it.

The donor countries proposals is that they will not pay for more then 18000, which they dub as 'internal security', they refused to fund any offensive army as per British plan which the Kenyan's/Ethiopian's support, they call this 'state building'.

The did the same model in Iraq rejecting the entire baath army that later either joined Alqaida/ISIS because they stated that they will only fund 40.000, the same model was applied to Germany after WW1 which lead to Hitler

From my investigations based on historical facts how such schemes have been implemented in the past leads me to this conclusion, however the government people argue that this is just preliminary 'state building' you can do your 'nation building' afterwards and develop your own offensive army.

They muddy the waters with 'state building' 'nation building' malarky, I remain highly sceptical and keep in mind HSM government refused this whole thing before. I don't trust any schemes that comes from the British

This so called revised plan from the Defence committee is complete ballcock PR campaign after the out rage that occurred as a result. Again all words nothing on paper whatsoever.

 

[Ferrari]

So you were going to go off if @Ridig Rabah was mareexan

no. but I'd if he was MJ.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Are you marehan by any chance? Just wanna know before I unleash.

Is that so

 

[Ridig Rabah]

no. but I'd if he was MJ.

sxb dont take it to the heart, i generalise everyone including my own mooryan siblings hg, if it would make you feel better, i will make a thread contra-hg if you want.

though i cant say the same for the mjs who would defend the devil itself so long it bears the mj name

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

sxb dont take it to the heart, i generalise everyone including my own mooryan siblings hg, if it would make you feel better, i will make a thread contra-hg if you want.

though i cant say the same for the mjs who would defend the devil itself so long it bears the mj name

May Allah protect & preserve mudane madoobe

 

[Lord Flacko]

What is going is a Machiavellian scheme that muddies the waters, nothing is in writing, I have spoken to several people all with conflicting points all close links to the government, some even part of it.

The donor countries proposals is that they will not pay for more then 18000, which they dub as 'internal security', the refuse to fund any offensive army as per British plan which the Kenyan's/Ethiopian's support, they call this 'state building'.

The did the same model in Iraq rejecting the entire baath army that later either joined Alqaida/ISIS because they stated that they will only fund 40.000, the same model was applied to Germany after WW1 which lead to Hitler

From my investigations based on historical facts how such schemes have been implemented in the past leads me to this conclusion, however the government people argue that this is just preliminary 'state building' you can do your 'nation building' afterwards and develop your own offensive army.

They muddy the waters with 'state building' 'nation building' malarky, I remain highly sceptical and keep in mind HSM government refused this whole thing before. I don't trust any schemes that comes from the British

This so called revised plan from the Defence committee is complete ballcock PR campaign after the out rage that occurred as a result. Again all words nothing on paper whatsoever.

What bothered me is the revised version. They said it will require minimum 22,000 SNA soldiers which is supposed to be a bump from the 18,000 in the last version.

Because the thing is, the 22,000 SNA forces include 4,000 DANAB forces, and the 18,000 was without the DANAB forces. So it's literally the same.

And regional presidents seem to still be a part of the security council, which the Defense Committee said they opposed.

 

[Abdalla]

of all the people you could have chosen to discredit me, you had to chose that khaa'in fat treacherous cambuulisto, how about if we both put a bullet between their servile heads (you gaas and i hsm, and then both on madobe), will that make us move closer to each other in terms of somalinimo/islamnimo, or does the love of Ethiopia weigh heavy on you to turn otherwise

HSM or Madoobe for Gaas is not a fair trade. One sold 50.000 Somali women to Saudi Arabia and the other wants to build a tunnel through Bari mountains

 

[Ridig Rabah]

May Allah protect & preserve mudane madoobe

Alone: In bad company.

Anyway Careful now, don't let your brains go to your head!

 

[Bahal]

Wathila ibn Al-Asqa’ reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, what is tribalism?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “That you support your people in wrongdoing.”

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 5119, Grade: Hasan (fair) according to Ibn Hajar

In another narration, he said, “O Messenger of Allah, is it part of tribalism that a man loves his people?” The Prophet said, “No, rather it is tribalism that he supports his people in wrongdoing.”

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3949,



Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, the greatest of people in falsehood is a man who insults another man by disparaging the entire tribe, and a man who disowns his father and accuses his mother of adultery.”

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3761

Somalis are screwed

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Alone: In bad company.

Anyway Careful now, don't let your brains go to your head!

I never was fond of the herd mentality besides I like to go against the grain personally I find plain sailing jading