All Somali online spaces have been hijacked by troll accounts and their rhetoric, which have become synonymous with our online ethnic reputation

[Einar68]

Title says it all, when the somali incel epidemic became hyper prominent during the lockdown back in 2020, as a community we should've doxed, reported and stamped out their existence. People instead treated them like a joke.

Now that they've been around for so long and gained such prominence, they've permanently engrained their subculture onto the fabric of all of our discussions online, and with that how we're perceived as a community. Real life is still pretty chill of course but the online world is heavily used and will slowly have their affect too. Their rhetoric seeps into all discussions Somali related as they are hyper aware of how to spread themselves everywhere.

Now that their rhetoric is deeply engrained into our visible subculture there's only one way to deal with them (since you idiots foolishly let them gain prominence in the first place) and that's to ignore them completely. However, somali's:

- insular nature
- need to constantly feel like anything involving one of us actually involves all of us
- Addiction to attention and a constant need to be seen

means that you guys will forever keep them in prominent conversation. I could truly write a PHD essay on the rise of this culture and their ability to spread their influence beyond reason or logic, but I'm tired.

DO NOT BRING ANYTHING INVOLVING THAT SUBCULTURE UP, IGNORE THEM AT ALL COSTS, DO NOT PROVIDE THEM WITH PLATFORMS TO GROW

^do that and the issue will solve itself, even if you believe i'm exaggerating the issues and being a whiny b!tch, just IGNORE THEM

for this same reason, this will be my last post ever about them

 

[Einar68]

even now, one of the "trending topics" is "Two madow men call Somali Women low iq"

which leads to a somali incel twitter link,

who most likely found those obscure wierdo podcasters by actively searching for them

with the sole intent of sowing division, gender wars, and ethnic differences between other communities.

 

[Sigmundd]

I've been saying this since 2019 yet no one listened and dismissed my pleas , here is me warning people about the situation before we became mainstream but instead got attacked. I noticed is mainly somali men that reacts aggressively when you remind them of the epidemic Nevertheless thr damage is done.

Check up on your brothers and male relatives incel epidemic hits an all time high

The incel epidemic has plagued our community like no other the virus is everywhere is virtually impossible to escape them, as they keep multiplying in great numbers and the things they write about black people and Somali women is very disturbing, to the point I am worried about my future Somali...

www.somalispot.com

 

[Einar68]

I've been saying this since 2019 yet no one listened and dismissed my pleas , here is me warning people about the situation before we became mainstream but instead got attacked. I noticed is mainly somali men that reacts aggressively when you remind them of the epidemic Nevertheless thr damage is done.

Check up on your brothers and male relatives incel epidemic hits an all time high

The incel epidemic has plagued our community like no other the virus is everywhere is virtually impossible to escape them, as they keep multiplying in great numbers and the things they write about black people and Somali women is very disturbing, to the point I am worried about my future Somali...

www.somalispot.com

It can still be undone, however it can no longer be done via reporting accounts etc, as the culture itself is imprinted.

we can only hope that people wise up and allow them to navigate to their own devices and slowly fade to irrelevancy, but I fear by the nature of our community we'll keep putting fuel on their fire

 

[Sigmundd]

It can still be undone, however it can no longer be done via reporting accounts etc, as the culture itself is imprinted.

we can only hope that people wise up and allow them to navigate within their own devices and slowly fade to irrelevancy, but I fear by the nature of our community we'll keep putting fuel on their fire

been there don't that. there's no reasoning with our people if they don't want to listen. A lot of Somalis suffer from attention seeking and division. They will keep posting just like they been doing for decades. We can only make dua that these incels go to obscurity and the xenophobia from outsiders ends. That's out only hope

 

[Einar68]

been there don't that. there's no reasoning with our people if they don't want to listen. A lot of Somalis suffer from attention seeking and division. They will keep posting just like they been doing for decades. We can only make dua that these incels go to obscurity and the xenophobia from outsiders ends. That's out only hope

As I said it's mostly an online thing, however it's still a sad state of affairs that hoping and praying is all we can do.

And I fear that in the same way people dismissed the troll accounts until it was too late, people will dismiss the online to real life transition of our perception until it's too late

 

[Aurelian]

Title says it all, when the somali incel epidemic became hyper prominent during the lockdown back in 2020, as a community we should've doxed, reported and stamped out their existence. People instead treated them like a joke.

Now that they've been around for so long and gained such prominence, they've permanently engrained their subculture onto the fabric of all of our discussions online, and with that how we're perceived as a community. Real life is still pretty chill of course but the online world is heavily used and will slowly have their affect too. Their rhetoric seeps into all discussions Somali related as they are hyper aware of how to spread themselves everywhere.

Now that their rhetoric is deeply engrained into our visible subculture there's only one way to deal with them (since you idiots foolishly let them gain prominence in the first place) and that's to ignore them completely. However, somali's:

- insular nature
- need to constantly feel like anything involving one of us actually involves all of us
- Addiction to attention and a constant need to be seen

means that you guys will forever keep them in prominent conversation. I could truly write a PHD essay on the rise of this culture and their ability to spread their influence beyond reason or logic, but I'm tired.

DO NOT BRING ANYTHING INVOLVING THAT SUBCULTURE UP, IGNORE THEM AT ALL COSTS, DO NOT PROVIDE THEM WITH PLATFORMS TO GROW

^do that and the issue will solve itself, even if you believe i'm exaggerating the issues and being a whiny b!tch, just IGNORE THEM

for this same reason, this will be my last post ever about them

you noticed that? Always notice incels in twitter engaging with anti-somali incels tagging one another in their tweets, as if they are helping each other to get reach.

 

[TekNiKo]

Title says it all, when the somali incel epidemic became hyper prominent during the lockdown back in 2020, as a community we should've doxed, reported and stamped out their existence. People instead treated them like a joke.

Now that they've been around for so long and gained such prominence, they've permanently engrained their subculture onto the fabric of all of our discussions online, and with that how we're perceived as a community. Real life is still pretty chill of course but the online world is heavily used and will slowly have their affect too. Their rhetoric seeps into all discussions Somali related as they are hyper aware of how to spread themselves everywhere.

Now that their rhetoric is deeply engrained into our visible subculture there's only one way to deal with them (since you idiots foolishly let them gain prominence in the first place) and that's to ignore them completely. However, somali's:

- insular nature
- need to constantly feel like anything involving one of us actually involves all of us
- Addiction to attention and a constant need to be seen

means that you guys will forever keep them in prominent conversation. I could truly write a PHD essay on the rise of this culture and their ability to spread their influence beyond reason or logic, but I'm tired.

DO NOT BRING ANYTHING INVOLVING THAT SUBCULTURE UP, IGNORE THEM AT ALL COSTS, DO NOT PROVIDE THEM WITH PLATFORMS TO GROW

^do that and the issue will solve itself, even if you believe i'm exaggerating the issues and being a whiny b!tch, just IGNORE THEM

for this same reason, this will be my last post ever about them

Dark.N.N was founded on somalispot, we created this monster and now it has spiraled out of control by Gen Z

 

[Sigmundd]

As I said it's mostly an online thing, however it's still a sad state of affairs that hoping and praying is all we can do.

And I fear that in the same way people dismissed the troll accounts until it was too late, people will dismiss the online to real life transition of our perception until it's too late

It's already seeped in real life. There was testimony of somalis coming forward and telling their bad experiences in real life. It might be generally an online thing to you, but it isn't to Somalis in secondary school right now. And soon th4 effects of rea life will be felt unless we take aggressive actions. Or are people also going to dismiss the real life scenarios unless is too late?

 

[lovelypeaches]

A lot of people, especially men, brush off incels as just an internet thing, but it's really starting to have real-world effects. Young, impressionable kids are picking up on this stuff, and it could end up making generation with really negative self-views of themselves and their ethnicity.

 

[Einar68]

you noticed that? Always notice incels in twitter engaging with anti-somali incels tagging one another in their tweets, as if they are helping each other to get reach.

My friend If I wanted I could give you a 10,000 word essay on how their specific methodology is perfectly curated for outreach and spread, almost a little too conveniently. Along with how many different "branches" of somali incels there are. They're all friends on various different sites and help push their message through these methods

The only thing that confuses me is their origin. If people remember when they gained hyper prominence around 2020 their main focus was psuedo-eugenics and the black identity, which seems to have toned down now for more misogynistic content (although that's always existed).

it seems as if there's no consistency to their ideologies outside of causing as much widespread mass hatred for Somalis as possible, which simply doesn't make sense. But at the same time I doubt the Ajanabi influence is so strong that it can be some weird targeted psyop on our people from foreigners as some think.

 

[Sigmundd]

A lot of people, especially men, brush off incels as just an internet thing, but it's really starting to have real-world effects. Young, impressionable kids are picking up on this stuff, and it could end up making generation with really negative self-views of themselves and their ethnicity.

There was a tiktok live where somali mothers were complaining their children being picked on in school because of the social media hate. They said Somali girls were the biggest target in a school calling them ugly, bops, etc....

 

[Einar68]

A lot of people, especially men, brush off incels as just an internet thing, but it's really starting to have real-world effects. Young, impressionable kids are picking up on this stuff, and it could end up making generation with really negative self-views of themselves and their ethnicity.

Red pill/Manosphere internet culture quite literally got Trump Re-elected lmaooo.

there were race riots in the UK that were led by 4chan-esque racist accounts on twitter that were ran by people from fucking FINLAND, not superr hackers or computer geniuses, just guys with accounts.

its so so so SO easy to control the masses online with nothing but divisive rhetoric, people heavily underestimate it

 

[lovelypeaches]

There was a tiktok live where somali mothers were complaining their children being picked on in school because of the social media hate. They said Somali girls were the biggest target in a school calling them ugly, bops, etc....

Yeah… I work part-time as a teacher’s assistant at a school with a pretty decent Somali population, and the shift in attitudes towards them has been shocking. Last year, most kids didn’t even know about Somalia or Somali people, but now, suddenly, I’m hearing so many racist jokes targeted at Somali students—things like calling them 'aliens' or mocking their facial features. It’s gotten so bad that some Somali kids have even had to switch schools because of the bullying, and yet the administration doesn’t seem to take it seriously. I do my best to stand up for them whenever I see this happening, but as a part-time TA without much authority, there’s only so much I can do

 

[Sigmundd]

Yeah… I work part-time as a teacher’s assistant at a school with a pretty decent Somali population, and the shift in attitudes towards them has been shocking. Last year, most kids didn’t even know about Somalia or Somali people, but now, suddenly, I’m hearing so many racist jokes targeted at Somali students—things like calling them 'aliens' or mocking their facial features. It’s gotten so bad that some Somali kids have even had to switch schools because of the bullying, and yet the administration doesn’t seem to take it seriously. I do my best to stand up for them whenever I see this happening, but as a part-time TA without much authority, there’s only so much I can do

Whar city?? and yeah school bullying is getting severe level hate particularly in the uk. I know of somali girls that are getting heavily bullied by ajanabi boys in school calling them vile words even one of the girls cried. Her mother has done everything one of the bullies got detention but it didn't help. I knownplenty others too. I'm telling you later gen z and gen alpha will suffer the worst case of school bullying and self hate. And what pains me the most is that there's nothing we can do to tackle the hate. Nada.

 

[Kisame]

Title says it all, when the somali incel epidemic became hyper prominent during the lockdown back in 2020, as a community we should've doxed, reported and stamped out their existence. People instead treated them like a joke.

Now that they've been around for so long and gained such prominence, they've permanently engrained their subculture onto the fabric of all of our discussions online, and with that how we're perceived as a community. Real life is still pretty chill of course but the online world is heavily used and will slowly have their affect too. Their rhetoric seeps into all discussions Somali related as they are hyper aware of how to spread themselves everywhere.

Now that their rhetoric is deeply engrained into our visible subculture there's only one way to deal with them (since you idiots foolishly let them gain prominence in the first place) and that's to ignore them completely. However, somali's:

- insular nature
- need to constantly feel like anything involving one of us actually involves all of us
- Addiction to attention and a constant need to be seen

means that you guy

I've been saying this since 2019 yet no one listened and dismissed my pleas , here is me warning people about the situation before we became mainstream but instead got attacked. I noticed is mainly somali men that reacts aggressively when you remind them of the epidemic Nevertheless thr damage is done.

Check up on your brothers and male relatives incel epidemic hits an all time high

The incel epidemic has plagued our community like no other the virus is everywhere is virtually impossible to escape them, as they keep multiplying in great numbers and the things they write about black people and Somali women is very disturbing, to the point I am worried about my future Somali...

www.somalispot.com

s will forever keep them in prominent conversation. I could truly write a PHD essay on the rise of this culture and their ability to spread their influence beyond reason or logic, but I'm tired.

DO NOT BRING ANYTHING INVOLVING THAT SUBCULTURE UP, IGNORE THEM AT ALL COSTS, DO NOT PROVIDE THEM WITH PLATFORMS TO GROW

^do that and the issue will solve itself, even if you believe i'm exaggerating the issues and being a whiny b!tch, just IGNORE THEM

for this same reason, this will be my last post ever about them

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[lovelypeaches]

Whar city?? and yeah school bullying is getting severe level hate particularly in the uk. I know of somali girls that are getting heavily bullied by ajanabi boys in school calling them vile words even one of the girls cried. Her mother has done everything one of the bullies got detention but it didn't help. I knownplenty others too. I'm telling you later gen z and gen alpha will suffer the worst case of school bullying and self hate. And what pains me the most is that there's nothing we can do to tackle the hate. Nada.

This is in the US btw but i dont want to mention the city cuz it aint that big but its in the midwest.

 

[Sigmundd]

This is in the US btw but i dont want to mention the city cuz it aint that big but its in the midwest.

Is it cadaans that are bullying them or maadows? Is so bad in schools where I live.

 

[Idilinaa]

It's not just Somalis, all online spaces has been become like that and it involves all types of ethnic/racial/national and religious groups. Look outside and you will see it's a general trend how extreme vulgar, hate and troll driven it has become.

Even Arab online spaces, i have come to find out their troll accounts say to most unhinged stuff to eachother and constantly at war. Twitter , comment sections are just a general cesspool nowadays
See:

Origin of the Habesha

I've heard of a similar culture within Habeshas...... someone had source here on the forums a while back. Why do you think their rate of hiv is so high?

www.somalispot.com

We are not really in charge of these social media platforms, so we cannot we really do anything about it

All you can do is control your own interactions and what you consume. If you don't like incel , anti-somali , iyo troll or whatever just don't look at it , simple as that.

Some people will always mindlessly follow societal trends and then they will die out in popularity and be replaced with something else. I believe the same applies here.

So don't stress it , just focus on things that actually matters.

 

[lovelypeaches]

Is it cadaans that are bullying them or maadows? Is so bad in schools where I live.

Ive seen both tbh