An Amicable Divorce

[DR OSMAN]

Madowweyn is the strongest entity in the Somali peninsula, comparing itbto JL and PL or SW makes you look like a joke. See, its free to make claims that cant be verified.

If we're gonna be honest with ourselves when we scream xabashi xabashi we should also be screaming kenyan. My man Madobe came to JL on a kenyan tank sxb. His whole adminstration is based on outside interference. Ditch that guy and build a somali owned admin with all stakeholders in JL. Then watch how easy AS is eradicated in the jubbas.

Madoobe might not be great but at this critical state building time, his the best man for the job. His been in power since 2011 I think and every villa leader came and tried to throw everything they had at him, they all disappear, he stands strong and so does JL.

JL ain't gonna be no GM, HS, SW status, once those idiots in Villa get that thru their thick head, the better. Madobe la yaqan, la hub, la wada og inu karbashi karo nin kasto villa.somalia yimaado and I'm sorry I'm also suggesting JL MPs, re elect this man.

I'm certain it will be a landslide victory, his very lucky because villa Somalia keep playing the useful enemy and as long as they do he just returns and returns.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

That's unfair assessment. JL is the strongest entity in the South, comparing it to GM.or HS or SW, makes u look like a joke. They have their own port, airport, and road. They have huge population in Kenya backing it also. I mean don't u see how Villa Somalia treats SW, GM, HS? their not in fear yet with JL, it's in absolute fear.

The feds actions since 2007 till now speaks.volumes and one of the big reasons noone wants Madoobe to leave, as ppl assume he has defeated them many times in Villa Somalia. As for.middle juba under shabab, u know territorially that's 9000 SQ Km, for God sakes that like 90 Mogadishu land size if u assume 100 SQ KM for Mogadishu area. It's not even really a state as 90% of districts in Somalia are even larger territory.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Madowweyn is the strongest entity in the Somali peninsula, comparing itbto JL and PL or SW makes you look like a joke. See, its free to make claims that cant be verified.

If we're gonna be honest with ourselves when we scream xabashi xabashi we should also be screaming kenyan. My man Madobe came to JL on a kenyan tank sxb. His whole adminstration is based on outside interference. Ditch that guy and build a somali owned admin with all stakeholders in JL. Then watch how easy AS is eradicated in the jubbas.

“Kenyans” you mean his MZ and Aulihan cousins in the Kenyan political apparatus. If it were up to the Kenyan madows, they’d build a wall on the border, but it isn’t. Kenya’s whole approach and policy towards JL and southern Somalia is dictated by these guys lol.

 

[RiceMuncher]

“Kenyans” you mean his MZ and Aulihan cousins in the Kenyan political apparatus. If it were up to the Kenyan madows, they’d build a wall on the border, but it isn’t. Kenya’s whole approach and policy towards JL and southern Somalia is dictated by these guys lol.

Mmh, just like Mustafa Cagjar is the leader of DDS.

 

[DR OSMAN]

“Kenyans” you mean his MZ and Aulihan cousins in the Kenyan political apparatus. If it were up to the Kenyan madows, they’d build a wall on the border, but it isn’t. Kenya’s whole approach and policy towards JL and southern Somalia is dictated by these guys lol.

They seem.ruthless in Kenya, the OGS, very organised and dictating what Kenya policy is in Somalia. It's just those Ethiopian ones don't do the same in their theater, gee imagine.combining both nations in the region Somalia policy, noone will be able to shit in Somalia.

As for Turks and Egypt won't save Mogadishu in the long run as the west will just tell them priority in the region is Kenya and Ethiopia.

Every clan in Somalia who wisened up wants an absame alliance even HSM, u want to shift ethio n Kenya policy thru Absame influence is the reason.

Only idiot who is like last to the dance is Sade.

 

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Madowweyn is the strongest entity in the Somali peninsula, comparing itbto JL and PL or SW makes you look like a joke. See, its free to make claims that cant be verified.

If we're gonna be honest with ourselves when we scream xabashi xabashi we should also be screaming kenyan. My man Madobe came to JL on a kenyan tank sxb. His whole adminstration is based on outside interference. Ditch that guy and build a somali owned admin with all stakeholders in JL. Then watch how easy AS is eradicated in the jubbas.

Ok I’ll verify these claims and you verify yours…

I’ve made a thread on Amisoms distribution in Somalia. ~61% of them were in 3-4 central Gobols. Lower Shabelle admin is literally Hawiyes propped up in Baraawe by Ugandans causing regular clan skirmishes…
Thread 'AMISOM Distribution in Somalia'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/amisom-distribution-in-somalia.135870/

We also have years of conflict data from the ACLED showing how minimal the KDFs role is in JL.

It is so minimal we are continuing drawdowns even in frontier districts like Badhaadhe. This happened this week and we have sustained operations pushing further at the same time

Mmh, just like Mustafa Cagjar is the leader of DDS.

KDFs entry into Somalia was under Yusuf Hajis tenure and directive. You have no idea what your talking about.

 

[reer_ugaas_hussein]

Mmh, just like Mustafa Cagjar is the leader of DDS.

do you really believe ethiopia and kenya at all similar when it comes to this? Ethiopia always has been a foreign habesha colonial empire and rules its somali areas like a colonial possesion wheras kenya is newly formed multi ethnic democracy where somali like all other tribes are part and parcel of the nations's politics and filled important political positions there from the beginning

 

[Dooyo]

There’s a higher likelihood of Kenya annexing Jubbaland than Ahmed Madoobe getting another term as president.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Ok I’ll verify these claims and you verify yours…

I’ve made a thread on Amisoms distribution in Somalia. ~61% of them were in 3-4 central Gobols. Lower Shabelle admin is literally Hawiyes propped up in Baraawe by Ugandans causing regular clan skirmishes…
Thread 'AMISOM Distribution in Somalia'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/amisom-distribution-in-somalia.135870/

We also have years of conflict data from the ACLED showing how minimal the KDFs role is in JL.
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It is so minimal we are continuing drawdowns even in frontier districts like Badhaadhe. This happened this week and we have sustained operations pushing further at the same time
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KDFs entry into Somalia was under Yusuf Hajis tenure and directive. You have no idea what your talking about.
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You didn’t show anything that JL "is the strongest entity in the South" but I'll give you on the Haji angle. The earliest wikileaks JL cable i could find was from 2009, and he was minister of defense 2008-2013. Whatever it is I believe Madoobe has been the biggest obstacle in our state building after AS imo.

PL has a clear vision and they've walked that road since the intro of federalism in Somalia. Madobe has been a flip flopper that negates on his own signatures. I have nothing against JL, but that guy and his history with AS, Hisbul Islam, going to xabashi prison and getting out with a militia. To then be a torn in every admin thats come doesn't sit well with me. I could be biased and looking at it from a pov of wanting to see united Somalia no matter how we get there I'll admit.