An Exciting New Business Just Opened in Mogdishu

[Idilinaa]

Right now if you think about Erdogan isn't really in good place he has arrested a known politician in his country and there has been protest

We can apply diplomatic pressure in that case.

Good thing for us that the Somali Parliament is rejecting it like i said before and MP's are speaking out. This is really good, it gives us legal tools and functions to scrub this deal.

Better yet it, it gives us a strong momentum to replace this corrupt FGS government in the near future.

Will drop a thread to debunk apologists, flop PR repsonses to rationalize the deal and discuss Parliaments response

 

[X29]

We can apply diplomatic pressure in that case.

Good thing for us that the Somali Parliament is rejecting it like i said before and MP's are speaking out. This is really good, it gives us legal tools and functions to scrub this deal.

Better yet it, it gives us a strong momentum to replace this corrupt FGS government in the near future.

Will drop a thread to debunk apologists, flop PR repsonses to rationalize the deal and discuss Parliaments response

how Long is it to elections I want this idiot gone

 

[Zak12]

We can apply diplomatic pressure in that case.

Good thing for us that the Somali Parliament is rejecting it like i said before and MP's are speaking out. This is really good, it gives us legal tools and functions to scrub this deal.

Better yet it, it gives us a strong momentum to replace this corrupt FGS government in the near future.

Will drop a thread to debunk apologists, flop PR repsonses to rationalize the deal and discuss Parliaments response

I was actually surprised when I read that the parliament rejected it. I thought they ultimately approved it despite the secretive nature of the deal. This actually reminds me of when Somaliland's defense minister resigned when he heard about the MoU since obviously it wasn't discussed with him. It just goes to show that doing backdoor deals like this will always alienate members of any government. Both HSM and Muse Bihi are shameless leaders that bend over to foreigners. This illegal oil deal might just be the straw that broke the camel's back and enable real voices from government, businessmen, lawyers so put an end to blatant corruption.

 

[X29]

I was actually surprised when I read that the parliament rejected it. I thought they ultimately approved it despite the secretive nature of the deal. This actually reminds me of when Somaliland's defense minister resigned when he heard about the MoU since obviously it wasn't discussed with him. It just goes to show that doing backdoor deals like this will always alienate members of any government. Both HSM and Muse Bihi are shameless leaders that bend over to foreigners. This illegal oil deal might just be the straw that broke the camel's back and enable real voices from government, businessmen, lawyers so put an end to blatant corruption.

We need more of this

 

[Nur_]

This is so lovely to hear genuinely especially the way the locals and diaspora are working together to mix tech and pharmacy to boost efficiency of ou. I thought majority of big pharma companies in somalia focused on the business aspect which is reselling products in bulk from european/asian countries.

we even have our own form of the FDA/CDC??

With Somalis being natural businessmen/women I’m a bit scared that as we increase the efficiency of our own medical systems, prices of healthcare will go higher similar to the USA. Even though we do have consultations and remote medicine to those unfortunate communities, do you think FGS in the far future could create a sort of healthcare welfare state such as medicaid in the US or in the UK, the National Health Service (NHS)?

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[Idilinaa]

how Long is it to elections I want this idiot gone

It is supposed to take place in 2026.

I don't think elections are going to solve it. Remember Abdi Samatar who is an MP claimed that HSM was trying to rig an election. Even if that wasn't true, it still would show how deep the mistrust is in the political system. There is need to be an overhaul of the entire political system imo.

I was actually surprised when I read that the parliament rejected it. I thought they ultimately approved it despite the secretive nature of the deal. This actually reminds me of when Somaliland's defense minister resigned when he heard about the MoU since obviously it wasn't discussed with him. It just goes to show that doing backdoor deals like this will always alienate members of any government. Both HSM and Muse Bihi are shameless leaders that bend over to foreigners. This illegal oil deal might just be the straw that broke the camel's back and enable real voices from government, businessmen, lawyers so put an end to blatant corruption.

It shows you that there is lack of cordination and transperancy.

In my opinion all foreign investments and collaborations outside of trade agreements should be blocked. Somalia should expand trade while putting a pause on foreign investment recruiting.

If a new government emerges they should draft a law that temporary for 2-3 years or so prevents any regional state, including central government in going into any investment and development agreement with a foreign country.

I'll explain more the logic behind it in a new thread. This oil deal actually taught as an important lesson and should actually serve as a reality check.

 

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[Zak12]

It is supposed to take place in 2026.

I don't think elections are going to solve it. Remember Abdi Samatar who is an MP claimed that HSM was trying to rig an election. Even if that wasn't true, it still would show how deep the mistrust is in the political system. There is need to be an overhaul of the entire political system imo.


It shows you that there is lack of cordination and transperancy.

In my opinion all foreign investments and collaborations outside of trade agreements should be blocked. Somalia should expand trade while putting a pause on foreign investment recruiting.

If a new government emerges they should draft a law that temporary for 2-3 years or so prevents any regional state, including central government in going into any investment and development agreement with a foreign country.

I'll explain more the logic behind it in a new thread. This oil deal actually taught as an important lesson and should actually serve as a reality check.

So are you opposed to the Turkish, UAE and Qatari investment that has been done so far? Mogsadishu, Bosaso and Berbera ports for example were partially thanks to that.

 

[X29]

It is supposed to take place in 2026.

I don't think elections are going to solve it. Remember Abdi Samatar who is an MP claimed that HSM was trying to rig an election. Even if that wasn't true, it still would show how deep the mistrust is in the political system. There is need to be an overhaul of the entire political system imo.


It shows you that there is lack of cordination and transperancy.

In my opinion all foreign investments and collaborations outside of trade agreements should be blocked. Somalia should expand trade while putting a pause on foreign investment recruiting.

If a new government emerges they should draft a law that temporary for 2-3 years or so prevents any regional state, including central government in going into any investment and development agreement with a foreign country.

I'll explain more the logic behind it in a new thread. This oil deal actually taught as an important lesson and should actually serve as a reality check.

If he trying to rigg the election how could he be stopped be who could challenge him

 

[Afar indhood]

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[Idilinaa]

So are you opposed to the Turkish, UAE and Qatari investment that has been done so far? Mogsadishu, Bosaso and Berbera ports for example were partially thanks to that.

We need to block the deal in Barawa and the other ones from the Gulf onwa. The Bosaso DP world deal can remain but the Berbera deal needs to be re-negotiated. I am opposed to Turkish investment as well.


But yeah the logic is that Somalia should build their economy on national control first, before letting foreign capital play a limited, managed role.

Foreign investment is not charity, they want profit, resources and strategic control in return. And Somalia at this point has no strong government regulatory mechanism or can negotiate a good deal. I'll explain later.

Somalia should be extremely selective about foreign deals, especially in strategic sectors like oil, ports, telecom, banking, and land.

If he trying to rigg the election how could he be stopped be who could challenge him

Somali business community in Mogadishu need to come together to fund the Parliament to overthrow the government. Then build a separate political system that dislodges these corrupt thugs in suits that are imposed and funded from outside.

If Somalis fund them, then they will be able to behave less dependent on HSM and move more independently and freely. Thats the logic.

People are controlled by their funding sources, if locals fund them they will work for national interest.

 

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[Idilinaa]

Take the sobriety-pill, ditch the blind optimism.
We have some respectable, light manufacturing industries - joodari, moysaxo, snacks, bacmadow, bulukeeti - but I'm sad to say that these industries, which we had since the 90s/00s are too basic and there has been no tangible improvement since the second Civil War because the political instability/uncertainty halted (or at least didn't increase) economic freedoms that led to these achievements. Things (economic outlook) are worse than they were in 2005 because of this political uncertainty, despite the more money coming in - due to remittances/diaspora investments, real estate boom, international aid, slightly improved infrastructure.

Somalia has opened up factories of every kind from steel mils, cement, concrete, various building materials, pipes/wires, grain mills, beverages, bottles, various food, agricultural and dairy processors, aluminum, plastics , construction machinery, boat factories, paper, foam, furniture, pharmaceuticals etc

I go through some live video examples in this thread:

Manufacturing

There probably is more small-medium sized manufacturing facilities today than during the Kacaan period which there was 50.

Today it's probably more than 100 nation wide. The business directory list 90 of them.

Manufacturing

Manufacturing

www.kulmie.com

In Mogadishu alone in a report from 2018 it was said to have had 25 factories and 33 industrial facilities.

Manufacturer's have actually banned together to form cooperative industry association nationwide

Kinda reminds me of how the many micro grids and energy plants banded together to form cooperatives/companies like BECO and others. They provide rapid resource mobilization and training and technical development locally. They don't outsource expertise or skills, they employ local people.

It's pretty much diaspora and local companies funding them. This is actually remarkable achievement because Somalia lost virtually every single industry in 91 collapse and had to build it all up again on their own without the heavy foreign financing capital.

Now they are able to manufacture diverse things that cater to domestic local communities.

Vast majority of medications here are imported from India and clearly lack any efficacy. Good ones are Turkish but super expensive for the average Somali. Indian pharma companies are notoriously shady and sell fake drugs - as high as 95%. Many essential medicines remain unavailable on the market for months. We can't even import them, how are we gonna manufacture them?

We know Somalia imports pharmaceuticals. We discussed this already.

. Just recently, the government adopted resolutions to establish an interim National Medicines Regulatory Authority to ensure quality control and regulate the industry:

Somalia adopts resolutions for the Interim National Medicines Regulatory Authority to ensure it maintains the momentum in the fight against Substandard and falsified Medical Products | AUDA-NEPAD

www.nepad.org

It is unregulated like 70% of it but i don't think 95% of it is fake or sourced from a single place like India. It comes from many different place, most actually come from Turkey, so its why they are targeted for import substitution.

Other import places being Sweden and Germany.

Oil and natural resources alone don't fix broken societies (eg DRC, much of Africa). The fact that you guys keep repeating the same thing "It's gonna get better when X happens" is sad and funny wlhi. Siyaasi USAID cunaayo, shidaal maas u daahaa?

I don't expect oil and natural resources to fix the political situation in Somalia. It could be useful to speed up infrastructure development which requires massive coordination of capital investment.

But we don't really need it in the immediate sense. Somalia receives 3 billion in remittances every year that acts as investment vehicle which is more than African countries recieve in FDI and the local capital formation is big enough that the Private-Public partnership can happen where the private sector has the ability to fund infrastructure projects in many hundreds of millions.

Also, the ubiquity of telephone service is not an indicator for genius - you just stick a pole in some baadiyo. Hormuud almost exclusively relies and has relied on Chinese and Indian engineers to run their tech. I'm surprised you think it's Faaraxs doing all the heavy lifting lol.

Also, I highly doubt Yenisom manufacturing meds in Somalia. They just import and stick their name on the labels I think.

We lack the necessary infrastructure, money, institutions and expertise to bring these high hopes of yours to fruition - and will continue to do so for a long time.

I could go on but I will end it here. I'm not trying to ruin your hopes but - for there to be positive changes, to better ourselves we must accept reality instead of "fake it til you make it". Change is only ever possible if we are courageous enough to confront the truth - that this nation is what it is because of the society, and its illness - an illness quite evident in most posters here.

I don't know what her endgame is but don't let this delusional, qar-iska-tuur Chatgpt merchant iney idin marin habaabiso.

Ps: my points regard Xamar only. I think other places are not fairing much better.
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Telecom is a key sector in all economies and vital in driving growth sector in every economy. It is literally the backbone of moder connectivity and living.

The Telecom Industry: A Backbone of Connectivity and Growth

The telecom industry is at the forefront of cybersecurity efforts, developing technologies to safeguard networks and prevent cyberattacks.

www.bisinfotech.com

Hormuud employs 33.000 people in Somalia. They are all local engineers and operators.

Do you honestly believe they are shipping in 30k Chinese and Indians and scatter them across the country to work? No.

You can go to their websites and social media see who's working for them, just like the construction companies it's just local Somalis. They have branches all over Somalia and contribute to the creation employment oppurtunities.

Infact they have a whole faculty where they train and educate the engineers which they end up employing.

Also it does not matter what you say or think either because the global community recognizes innovation and technological advances by the Telecom sector in Somalia as they even hand out awards to them where they beat out global competitors.

Somali Telecom Leader Wins Global Award

Ahmed Mohamed Yusuf, the Chairman of Hormuud Telecom, has been named the Leader of the Year 2023 for Global Telecoms by Total Telecom, a UK-based company that recognizes the achievements of the tel…

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Yenisom is Turkish drugmaker in Mogadishu and they make them in Somalia so you are wrong about that. They operate out of a Somali owned and run pharmeutical factory and it is aimed at import substitution, instead of importing them directly from Turkey they make same drugs locally.

https://www.radiodalsan.com/yenisom-starts-drug-production-in-somalia-first-company-in-30-years/

Yenisom Pharmaceuticals is going to be the first Turkish drugmaker to produce medicines in Somalia as it has started manufacturing drugs already.


The last pharmaceutical factory to operate in Somalia closed doors when the Somali government collapsed in 1991.Â

The pharmaceutical company says it is totally committed to improving people’s health and pledges to successfully develop distinctive solid oral dosage treatments for various health conditions.


Yenisom Healthcare, the first locally drug producing company, says it is dedicated to developing access to medicine by focusing on production and marketing of high quality affordable generic medications.

And what i share is real sources and information that are publicly available is not chatgpt. I often share links and sources to support my claims, i don't pull stuff out of my ass like you and your ilks do and expect people to buy it cause i said so.

I always wonder though what the end game for troll accounts like you is. After you create fake accounts to peddle deliberate nonsense and pop in randomly to throw a fit do you hope that it miraculously changes the reality on the gound? Do people become what you say they are.

Or is it in order to trigger or rage bait or whatever you internet basement dweebs like you like to call it? Does it improve your life situation some how?

It's quite ironic how you guys herp about hopium, optimism or copium iyo pill this and that when it actuality yall are loser who either gave up on life or to afraid to go out there and live. You are scared of facing up to reality and spend time projecting onto people that do live and who are not to afraid to embrace the success and hardships and the risks, achievements and struggles that come with living.