An Oromo guy tells Somalis the truth and how they see Somalis

[mohammdov]

Are you serious?
Isn't this obvious they have higher population density as are Amhara. I'm talking about the population as a whole.

Look at Amhara who are a peasant society and small isolated in the mountains with 35 million. Oromo are more spread out but still have about the same population. Somalis are even more spread out in an arid Penisular but the fertile south gives us a boost.

Somalia has a our 18 million according to estimates which are likely undercounting.
Djibouti has 500,000 Somali.
NFD is 3 million.
Galbeed is 11 million.

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There is a difference between area and population density. Bangladesh has a larger population than Russia,
and this map does not count the Oromo lands in Kenya

 

[Sigmundd]

You fear mongers are hilarious somalis ain't going anywhere they're not going to dominate as i never hear anyone speak oromo openly or eveb say they're oromo in Hargeisa or anywhere else in Somaliland they just assimilate.

 

[Khaem]

There is a difference between area and population density. Bangladesh has a larger population than Russia,
and this map does not count the Oromo lands in Kenya

Oromo lands in Kenya do not change much. You still haven't addressed me, what's the point in showing population density when that's already a given that they have much smaller land than us but on par population.

 

[Ozymandias]

Qabyaalad ba na dhishay

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Are you serious?
Isn't this obvious they have higher population density as are Amhara. I'm talking about the population as a whole.

Look at Amhara who are a peasant society and small isolated in the mountains with 35 million. Oromo are more spread out but still have about the same population. Somalis are even more spread out in an arid Penisular but the fertile south gives us a boost.

Somalia has a population of 18 million according to estimates which are likely undercounting.
Djibouti has 500,000 Somali.
NFD is 3 million.
Galbeed is 11 million.

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Our land is larger than all of the land they all own put together.

To think it was even larger at one point. Our ancestors deserve more credit.

 

[GALAN]

Somalis have around the same pop. As oromo and amhara. We just need centralised power to make use of our land and people.

man said same population? somalia has a population of 9 million with Somaliland 17 million.

Oromo are indigenous to Tanzania, Kenya, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and Sudan.

after I made some re search the Oromo of the Gedo region alone number 100k, and if you want to include Garre make up 90 percent of the population.

the Oromo Waata are the one of the largest peoples in the region between kifili, and lungs lungs and were heavily assimilated into the Dahalo group and probably number around 100k themselves.

the Wardey who were entirely assimilated into the Ogaden, and Dir number 600 thousand in Kenya alone and are still not counted as Oromo, there number goes to the somali population.

the Gabra who are today being assimilated into the reendille, and somali groups number over 400 thousand themselves. and mark my words in 80 years they will turn out just like Garre and become Somali.

Are you serious?
Isn't this obvious they have higher population density as are Amhara. I'm talking about the population as a whole.

Look at Amhara who are a peasant society and small isolated in the mountains with 35 million. Oromo are more spread out but still have about the same population. Somalis are even more spread out in an arid Penisular but the fertile south gives us a boost.

Somalia has a population of 18 million according to estimates which are likely undercounting.
Djibouti has 500,000 Somali.
NFD is 3 million.
Galbeed is 11 million.

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this being complete BS showing Somali taking up to Awash which when I went they were refugees there.

the Oromo own all the land in Kenya that the somali today claim (Garre, Orma, Sakuya, Wardey, and Waata).

large oromo clans such as the Garre have been assimilated into the Somali ethnic group which is a esbahys of Madows, Hebrews, Indians, Arabs, and cushites the only 2 original Hamitic tribes within the 'Somali' being Dir which a large percentage (Jaarso, Akisho, Hume, Gurgura, and Gurra are oromo with some oromo elements in the Issa (Reer Galan the largest Issa sub clan) and reer roobleh the eastern samaroon. And Hawiya which according to oromo elders was the eldest son of Babille, and to this day is still regarded as the son of Babille In oromo clan system, and culture.

so out of the 25 million somalis in Kenya X Somalia x Djibouti X Somaliland 5 million would be pure oromos if your not counting Babille (Hawiya) and if you are around 10 million would be oromo.

the Oromo in Ethiopia alone number roughly 45 million because were talking about a group which lives as far as the Eritrean border were the Azebo, and Raaya oromo reside who were heavily assimilated by the Tigray and still have a large presence in these areas. the Maaca oromo themselves number 8 million the population of Somalia as a whole in 2014.


the Oromo heavily outnumber somalis 4 to 1 even though the Somali people have assimilated lots of oromo clans into them. I dont know how you can claim oromo and somali have same population when we reer galan make up most of the Issa.

 

[Khaem]

man said same population? somalia has a population of 9 million with Somaliland 17 million.

Oromo are indigenous to Tanzania, Kenya, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and Sudan.

after I made some re search the Oromo of the Gedo region alone number 100k, and if you want to include Garre make up 90 percent of the population.

the Oromo Waata are the one of the largest peoples in the region between kifili, and lungs lungs and were heavily assimilated into the Dahalo group and probably number around 100k themselves.

the Wardey who were entirely assimilated into the Ogaden, and Dir number 600 thousand in Kenya alone and are still not counted as Oromo, there number goes to the somali population.

the Gabra who are today being assimilated into the reendille, and somali groups number over 400 thousand themselves. and mark my words in 80 years they will turn out just like Garre and become Somali.

this being complete BS showing Somali taking up to Awash which when I went they were refugees there.

the Oromo own all the land in Kenya that the somali today claim (Garre, Orma, Sakuya, Wardey, and Waata).

large oromo clans such as the Garre have been assimilated into the Somali ethnic group which is a esbahys of Madows, Hebrews, Indians, Arabs, and cushites the only 2 original Hamitic tribes within the 'Somali' being Dir which a large percentage (Jaarso, Akisho, Hume, Gurgura, and Gurra are oromo with some oromo elements in the Issa (Reer Galan the largest Issa sub clan) and reer roobleh the eastern samaroon. And Hawiya which according to oromo elders was the eldest son of Babille, and to this day is still regarded as the son of Babille In oromo clan system, and culture.

so out of the 25 million somalis in Kenya X Somalia x Djibouti X Somaliland 5 million would be pure oromos if your not counting Babille (Hawiya) and if you are around 10 million would be oromo.

the Oromo in Ethiopia alone number roughly 45 million because were talking about a group which lives as far as the Eritrean border were the Azebo, and Raaya oromo reside who were heavily assimilated by the Tigray and still have a large presence in these areas. the Maaca oromo themselves number 8 million the population of Somalia as a whole in 2014.


the Oromo heavily outnumber somalis 4 to 1 even though the Somali people have assimilated lots of oromo clans into them. I dont know how you can claim oromo and somali have same population when we reer galan make up most of the Issa.

This man is clinically insane. I was about to counter the first bs I saw but every other sentence I read made me genuinely start tweaking. How can one be this crazy and/or historically illiterate.

Let me guess, Ahmad gurey comes from an assimilated oromo tribe also?

Oromo Indigenous to Somalia Tanzania Eritrea and Sudan

 

[GALAN]

oromo of Tanzania : Waata,
Oromo of sudan= Maaca oromo
of South Sudan= Jimma oromo
of Eritrea= Azebo, Oromo
of Ethiopia= all tribes except orma, wardey, waata
oromo of somalia: Borona, Garre, Babille ,Wardey
Oromo of Somaliland: Akisho, Jaarso, Humee, Gurgura, Obo, Reer Robleh, Reer Galan
Oromo of Djibouti: Akisho, Gurgura, Reer Galan .

yes or no?

This man is clinically insane. I was about to counter the first bs I saw but every other sentence I read made me genuinely start tweaking. How can one be this crazy and/or historically illiterate

 

[GALAN]

This man is clinically insane. I was about to counter the first bs I saw but every other sentence I read made me genuinely start tweaking. How can one be this crazy and/or historically illiterate.

Let me guess, Ahmad gurey comes from an assimilated oromo tribe also?

Oromo Indigenous to Somalia Tanzania Eritrea and Sudan

Oromia borders Sudan?? and learn about the Waata oromo the most southernmost oromo, the northern most oromo Azebo in Eritrea, and the eastern and southern most oromo Wardey, Borona, Garre, AQ.

oromo of Tanzania : Waata,
Oromo of sudan= Maaca oromo
of South Sudan= Jimma oromo
of Eritrea= Azebo, Oromo
of Ethiopia= all tribes except orma, wardey, waata
oromo of somalia: Borona, Garre, Babille ,Wardey
Oromo of Somaliland: Akisho, Jaarso, Humee, Gurgura, Obo, Reer Robleh, Reer Galan
Oromo of Djibouti: Akisho, Gurgura, Reer Galan .

yes or no?

 

[Khaem]

oromo of Tanzania : Waata,
Oromo of sudan= Maaca oromo
of South Sudan= Jimma oromo
of Eritrea= Azebo, Oromo
of Ethiopia= all tribes except orma, wardey, waata
oromo of somalia: Borona, Garre, Babille ,Wardey
Oromo of Somaliland: Akisho, Jaarso, Humee, Gurgura, Obo
Oromo of Djibouti: Akisho, Gurgura .

yes or no?

There's no galla in Djibouti, Gurgura are dir Somali like us Issa, Samaroon ect.

No galla are native to Eritrea or any Sudan. Oromo live in Northern Kenya ofc cause they originate from north West Kenya and expanded north slowly before assimilating in their expansion after the Adal-Abyssinia war ended in a brutal stalemate which left both empires weak. The galla invaded Amhara lands like wollo and assimilated those. They also assimilated many Somali clans in bale and hararghe although there's still dir and hawiye Somali clans in hararghe like us Issa. And many oromo in hararghe still trace their lineage to Somali clans.

The successor to ahmad gurey, his Somali nephew Nur ibn Mujahid, built the fmaous walls of harar in the late 1500s to keep our the galla tribsmen and he forced the Somali, Harla, Muslim habash, some afar to abandon their tribal affiliations and eventually these people mixed over centuries to form the Modern Harari ethnicity. This was until the late 1800s where Menelik II destroyed the Harar sultanate and opened the walls of Harar to the Oromo tribes waiting outside who flooded in. Menelik and later Halie salassie started a process of Genociding the Harari and expelled much of the Muslim Somali population from the city. Settling in the historic Islamic centre tens of thousands of Christian Amhara and Oromo.

Somali stop expanding west for obvious reasons and we're moving south instead into Kenya. Primarily the Ogaden clan who invaded the galla in Kenya and made a series of treaties forcing the Oromo to concede more and more. Eventually other nomadic Somali clans heard of the land being opened up and started pouring into NFD to settle. And by 1890 the Oromo were forced completely from NFD and made to migrate to north West Kenya, leaving a portion of their women and cattle for the Somali settlers in NFD.

Within Somalia itself which was mostly in the borders of the historic Ajuuran, there are no Oromo. They tried to invade the empire but were quickly defeated by the superior Ajuuran forces and enslaved during the Gaal Madow wars where the work Gaal/Galla was first used to describe oromo. Gaal Madow meaning the black infidels/pagans in Af-Somali.

The reason they invaded the Adal and Abyssinia was because they were severely weakened by nearly a century of war. The Ajuuran on the other hand refused Ahmad Gurey's call to Jihad against ethiopia and stayed out of it. So when the galla tribesmen came to the Ajuuran empire in modern Southern Somalia the Somalis their used guns and canons and other superior technology to wipe out the galla forces who used only their horses and spears with no armour and no knowledge of guns.

This is the true history

 

[GALAN]

There's no galla in Djibouti, Gurgura are dir Somali like us Issa, Samaroon ect.

No galla are native to Eritrea or any Sudan. Oromo live in Northern Kenya ofc cause they originate from north West Kenya and expanded north slowly before assimilating in their expansion after the Adal-Abyssinia war ended in a brutal stalemate which left both empires weak. The galla invaded Amhara lands like wollo and assimilated those. They also assimilated many Somali clans in bale and hararghe although there's still dir and hawiye Somali clans in hararghe like us Issa.

The successor to ahmad gurey, his Somali nephew Nur ibn Mujahid, built the fmaous walls of harar in the late 1500s to keep our the galla tribsmen and he forced the Somali, Harla, Muslim habash, some afar to abandon their tribal affiliations and eventually these people mixed over centuries to form the Modern Harari ethnicity. This was until the late 1800s where Menelik II destroyed the Harar sultanate and opened the walls of Harar to the Oromo tribes waiting outside who flooded in. Menelik and later Halie salassie started a process of Genociding the Harari and expelled much of the Muslim Somali population from the city. Settling in the historic Islamic centre tens of thousands of Christian Amhara and Oromo.

Somali stop expanding west for obvious reasons and we're moving south instead into Kenya. Primarily the Ogaden clan who invaded the galla in Kenya and made a series of treaties forcing the Oromo to concede more and more. Eventually other nomadic Somali clans heard of the land being opened up and started pouring into NFD to settle. And by 1890 the Oromo were forced completely from NFD and made to migrate to north West Kenya, leaving a portion of their women and cattle for the Somali settlers in NFD.

Within Somalia itself which was mostly in the borders of the historic Ajuuran, there are no Oromo. They tried to invade the empire but were quickly defeated by the superior Ajuuran forces and enslaved drying the Gaal Madow wars where the work Gaal/Galla was first used to describe oromo. Gaal Madow meaning the black infidels/pagans in Af-Somali.

The reason they invaded the Adal and Abyssinia was because they were severely weakened by nearly a century of war. The Ajuuran on the other hand refused Ahmad Gurey's call to Jihad against ethiopia and stayed out of it. So when the galla tribesmen came to the Ajuuran empire in modern Southern Somalia the Somalis there used guns and canons and other superior technology to wipe out the galla forced who used only their horses and spears with no armour and no knowledge of guns.

This is the true history

for the last time take this to convos I will show you books, sources everything the question is are you ready to have a proper debate with real sources not just bs? hit my line up when you are.

 

[GALAN]

I will answer any question you have and by Allah will try my best debunk everything you say. @Khaemwaset

 

[NidarNidar]

There's no galla in Djibouti, Gurgura are dir Somali like us Issa, Samaroon ect.

No galla are native to Eritrea or any Sudan. Oromo live in Northern Kenya ofc cause they originate from north West Kenya and expanded north slowly before assimilating in their expansion after the Adal-Abyssinia war ended in a brutal stalemate which left both empires weak. The galla invaded Amhara lands like wollo and assimilated those. They also assimilated many Somali clans in bale and hararghe although there's still dir and hawiye Somali clans in hararghe like us Issa. And many oromo in hararghe still trace their lineage to Somali clans.

The successor to ahmad gurey, his Somali nephew Nur ibn Mujahid, built the fmaous walls of harar in the late 1500s to keep our the galla tribsmen and he forced the Somali, Harla, Muslim habash, some afar to abandon their tribal affiliations and eventually these people mixed over centuries to form the Modern Harari ethnicity. This was until the late 1800s where Menelik II destroyed the Harar sultanate and opened the walls of Harar to the Oromo tribes waiting outside who flooded in. Menelik and later Halie salassie started a process of Genociding the Harari and expelled much of the Muslim Somali population from the city. Settling in the historic Islamic centre tens of thousands of Christian Amhara and Oromo.

Somali stop expanding west for obvious reasons and we're moving south instead into Kenya. Primarily the Ogaden clan who invaded the galla in Kenya and made a series of treaties forcing the Oromo to concede more and more. Eventually other nomadic Somali clans heard of the land being opened up and started pouring into NFD to settle. And by 1890 the Oromo were forced completely from NFD and made to migrate to north West Kenya, leaving a portion of their women and cattle for the Somali settlers in NFD.

Within Somalia itself which was mostly in the borders of the historic Ajuuran, there are no Oromo. They tried to invade the empire but were quickly defeated by the superior Ajuuran forces and enslaved during the Gaal Madow wars where the work Gaal/Galla was first used to describe oromo. Gaal Madow meaning the black infidels/pagans in Af-Somali.

The reason they invaded the Adal and Abyssinia was because they were severely weakened by nearly a century of war. The Ajuuran on the other hand refused Ahmad Gurey's call to Jihad against ethiopia and stayed out of it. So when the galla tribesmen came to the Ajuuran empire in modern Southern Somalia the Somalis their used guns and canons and other superior technology to wipe out the galla forces who used only their horses and spears with no armour and no knowledge of guns.

This is the true history

No point replying to this guy, sometimes schizophrenia manifests in weird ways.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Soomaali waa kan walaalkii madax kaga istaaga
He didn't lie.
The Oromo have become dominant in Ethiopia. This is something the Somalis do not understand yet They will be the dominant race in the Horn of Africa for several decades
While the Somalis are tribes, it is difficult to consider them a single race, even while the Oromo, 50 million united, have a rich land.

Oromos will never become dominant, they only have a big population but what about it? They’re landlocked and their only asset is that they have good farmland. If Oromos seriously try to dominate then they’ll get beaten back and their neighboring lands will get assimilated by both Somalis and Habesha’s.

 

[GALAN]

Oromos will never become dominant, they only have a big population but what about it? They’re landlocked and their only asset is that they have good farmland. If Oromos seriously try to dominate then they’ll get beaten back and their neighboring lands will get assimilated by both Somalis and Habesha’s.

they already are dominant. they are embarking on a conquest to reclaim Jijiga the stolen land which is dominated by the Obo and Akisho. SR forces were already chased from Babille.

 

[GALAN]

you guys are not ready to have a debate. you all know that oromo land, Population, and history exceeds somali history.


word somali is a esbaheys.

No point replying to this guy, sometimes schizophrenia manifests in weird ways.

 

[Zak12]

they already are dominant. they are embarking on a conquest to reclaim Jijiga the stolen land which is dominated by the Obo and Akisho. SR forces were already chased from Babille.

"Stolen land", lmao

 

[Emir of Zayla]

they already are dominant. they are embarking on a conquest to reclaim Jijiga the stolen land which is dominated by the Obo and Akisho. SR forces were already chased from Babille.

All Oromos are doing is just taking advantage of Ethiopia’s weak state to do some small attacks. Once they seriously try Jigjiga they’ll get bodied and beaten

 

[Emir of Zayla]

you guys are not ready to have a debate. you all know that oromo land, Population, and history exceeds somali history.


word somali is a esbaheys.

40 million Oromos and not a single drop of history your land is worthless too, who’s gonna waste their time debating some langaab Oromo.

 

[GALAN]

40 million Oromos and not a single drop of history your land is worthless too, who’s gonna waste their time debating some langaab Oromo.

you want to learn history? the name of the oromo Galla was first mentioned during the Time oof Menelik I son of Suleiman (pbuh) his chronicle mentions he encountered the Azebo Galla upon crossing the Red Sea.

Yusuf ibn ahmed al Kawneyn encountered the oromo when he first came, so did sheikh Isaaq, and Darood read Galla of northern Somaliland.

many large oromo clans were assimilated into the somali just look at my own clan reer Galan we are the largest Issa, and the Reer Robleh the largest samaroon in Boroma.