Answer to Mogadishu and Hargasisas Unemployment problem

[ZBR]

The locals are incredibly lazy and demand khat and money upfront and then don't work. Some even expect you to put them on payroll for being a clan relative while not even being there. I know a guy who lost his life savings starting a factory due to the lazy locals who fleeced him. He looks dead inside. I couldn't believe what he told me. The diaspora are naive about business prospects in Somalia. There is a reason why diaspora only open hotels and a cafe there and then run it themselves or with immediate family. There's also a reason why business people are importing ajnabis to work in their businesses, alongside the traditional workers the Somali Bantus.

The solution to the unemployment problem there is to stop being lazy, stop being addicted to khat, and be honest workers.

Yes drugs usage is a major impediment for a healthy productive society

 

[Somalib]

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Translate? It’s kinda too fancy

 

[ZBR]

Translate? It’s kinda too fancy

Allah commanded Dawud (‏عليه السلام) to make make well measured precise iron pieces for military armament, in context this was about the Iron Age II in the Levant. The establishment of the Davidic monarchy or Judah’s Golden Age, is something also mentioned in the Torah and Bible it was Talut who consolidated the hill farmers under his rule and created fighting units capable of confronting the Philistines. Dawud defeated the Philistines possibly with metal projectiles and united the hill farmers with the people of the Canaanite plains, thus establishing the Kingdom of Israel.

Allah is highlighting the importance of iron manufacturing in the formation of this kingdom, also the Prophet (‏صلى الله عليه وسلم) spoke about how it was Dawud only source of income

 

[Man with a garuun]

Garments and Fabric industries, it’s a low cost it might not pay much but it’s something for those who are willing to work

Some areas with low population density might not need it but these four cities are in a dire situation

According to this data, I’ve seen here recently the population is large and one this large could easily become restless and rough

1	Mogadishu	2,587,183
2	Hargeysa	477,876
3	Berbera	242,344
4	Kismayo	234,852

Somalia Population (2025) - Worldometer

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First, they need to stop foreign workers taking jobs from the locals. The migrants from South Asia are overtaking those jobs. Somalis like to focus on poor Oramo migrants, when construction, decorations, engineering, fabrics, IT, and accounting are fully held by migrants from South Asia.

They do the same thing in UAE. If you go to Dubai and see all Somali businesses, you would hardly find a Somali worker working for them. Jewelers, hotels, and restaurants employ overwhelmingly South Asians even though their customers are exclusively Somalis.

I made sure I didn't stay in a Somali hotel, didn't eat in Somali restaurants, and don't buy jewelry from Somali stores when I was burying jewellery for my wife and was traveling through Dubai. Why would I have a loyalty to a group of people who don't show any loyalty to the community?

We need public awareness on this. Greedy Somali men and women need to be stopped and we need strong regulations in all Somali regions.

 

[ZBR]

First, they need to stop foreign workers taking jobs from the locals. The migrants from South Asia are overtaking those jobs. Somalis like to focus on poor Oramo migrants, when construction, decorations, engineering, fabrics, IT, and accounting are fully held by migrants from South Asia.

They do the same thing in UAE. If you go to Dubai and see all Somali businesses, you would hardly find a Somali worker working for them. Jewelers, hotels, and restaurants employ overwhelmingly South Asians even though their customers are exclusively Somalis.

I made sure I didn't stay in a Somali hotel, didn't eat in Somali restaurants, and don't buy jewelry from Somali stores when I was burying jewellery for my wife and was traveling through Dubai. Why would I have a loyalty to a group of people who don't show any loyalty to the community?

We need public awareness on this. Greedy Somali men and women need to be stopped and we need strong regulations in all Somali regions.

South Asians are definitely the real threat , because they’re coming with capital and skills, there needs to be legislation that regulates their movements and can only start business with a Somali partners

 

[Basra]

A Plague?

 

[ZBR]

Eastern hordes is not a new phenomenon in history, in Rome skilled slaves were the eastern Greek and Anatolian ones

One of the reasons Roman citizenship existed was to give upper hand to Roman’s in all enterprises over anyone who just came to Rome on the last ship from Smyrne.

 

[Man with a garuun]

The locals are incredibly lazy and demand khat and money upfront and then don't work. Some even expect you to put them on payroll for being a clan relative while not even being there. I know a guy who lost his life savings starting a factory due to the lazy locals who fleeced him. He looks dead inside. I couldn't believe what he told me. The diaspora are naive about business prospects in Somalia. There is a reason why diaspora only open hotels and a cafe there and then run it themselves or with immediate family. There's also a reason why business people are importing ajnabis to work in their businesses, alongside the traditional workers the Somali Bantus.

The solution to the unemployment problem there is to stop being lazy, stop being addicted to khat, and be honest workers.

I learned it through the hard-way: Don't give them any money. Unless the person is old, widowed, or divorced women with kids, keep your money. The only exception I would add if the person is really sick and they don't have money, then you should help.

I used to send a lot of money and some of them turned out to be ungrateful. So I stopped sending money to people who don't deserve it.

Btw, I bought a land recently in LA, and was putting on it what Somalis call "sees", which is a foundation and a little bit of fence around it, to make sure I don't face "ku qabso ku qadimayside" in the future. Nearly all of the people who were doing the work were my subclansmen.

I shared that to show that people are willing to work if you pay them decently and they need the money badly. And that should tell you that they are not all lazy.

 

[Man with a garuun]

I don’t want to be the harbinger of bad news but the looming future looks genuinely distressing and sorrowful , I don’t see or hear any discussion about how to make use or support the urban population without foreign debt and wheat

A country with highly urbanized population without industry that’s in a similar predicament is Yemen, they also have oil and port but it isn’t sufficient

May Allah bring ease and protect us from manipulation and exploitation by outside forces

Bro, back home, people are already building dams, sand dams, small lakes, and digging more wells. And they need this water for their animals and for farming. I was amazed when I saw people who didn't use to farming who are farming now. People are also growing pasture nowadays.

So the future is bright if peace can be achieved throughout the country, and insha'Allah we'll.

 

[Basra]

I learned it through the hard-way: Don't give them any money. Unless the person is old, widowed, or divorced women with kids, keep your money. The only exception I would add if the person is really sick and they don't have money, then you should help.

I used to send a lot of money and some of them turned out to be ungrateful. So I stopped sending money to people who don't deserve it.

Btw, I bought a land recently in LA, and was putting on it what Somalis call "sees", which is a foundation and a little bit of fence around it, to make sure I don't face "ku qabso ku qadimayside" in the future. Nearly all of the people who were doing the work were my subclansmen.

I shared that to show that people are willing to work if you pay them decently and they need the money badly. And that should tell you that they are not all lazy.

No, u shared it because u a freaking qabilist! How dare u nayaa looooooooool

 

[Nikka]

The locals are incredibly lazy and demand khat and money upfront and then don't work. Some even expect you to put them on payroll for being a clan relative while not even being there. I know a guy who lost his life savings starting a factory due to the lazy locals who fleeced him. He looks dead inside. I couldn't believe what he told me. The diaspora are naive about business prospects in Somalia. There is a reason why diaspora only open hotels and a cafe there and then run it themselves or with immediate family. There's also a reason why business people are importing ajnabis to work in their businesses, alongside the traditional workers the Somali Bantus.

The solution to the unemployment problem there is to stop being lazy, stop being addicted to khat, and be honest workers.

Somalis don't get enough electrolytes back home and are inbreed many generations over. Colder countries don't lose electrolytes easily and are generally more hydrated.

 

[SanaLaporte]

pretty sure making garment and stuff is looked really low in Somalia, idk about hargeisa but I know my family would curse me out if I asked them to in Mogadishu to do it

 

[Richard Pearson]

The locals are incredibly lazy and demand khat and money upfront and then don't work. Some even expect you to put them on payroll for being a clan relative while not even being there. I know a guy who lost his life savings starting a factory due to the lazy locals who fleeced him. He looks dead inside. I couldn't believe what he told me. The diaspora are naive about business prospects in Somalia. There is a reason why diaspora only open hotels and a cafe there and then run it themselves or with immediate family. There's also a reason why business people are importing ajnabis to work in their businesses, alongside the traditional workers the Somali Bantus.

The solution to the unemployment problem there is to stop being lazy, stop being addicted to khat, and be honest workers.

This post is the unpleasant truth when Somalis only like hearing comforting lies hence the two dislikes. In 2019 I went on a tour of basically every major city in somaliweyn before my trip I was the most naive person till the cold harsh truth slapped me in the face. Every Somali wants to be CEO/Madaxweyne, but doesn't want to put in the work it takes to get there.

 

[Basra]

This post is the unpleasant truth when Somalis only like hearing comforting lies hence the two dislikes. In 2019 I went on a tour of basically every major city in somaliweyn before my trip I was the most naive person till the cold harsh truth slapped me in the face. Every Somali wants to be CEO/Madaxweyne, but doesn't want to put in the work it takes to get there.

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Comfortable lies, its good for the soul huuno

 

[SanaLaporte]

Somalis don't get enough electrolytes back home and are inbreed many generations over. Colder countries don't lose electrolytes easily and are generally more hydrated.

you can just tell landers are inbred, no offence to landers here, but they tend to have huge teeths and look deformed, also the qaniis usually from that area

 

[SanaLaporte]

This post is the unpleasant truth when Somalis only like hearing comforting lies hence the two dislikes. In 2019 I went on a tour of basically every major city in somaliweyn before my trip I was the most naive person till the cold harsh truth slapped me in the face. Every Somali wants to be CEO/Madaxweyne, but doesn't want to put in the work it takes to get there.

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Well clearly its in our DNA, we should import hindi just like back in the days to work then, theyre hard workers

 

[Basra]

you can just tell landers are inbred, no offence to landers here, but they tend to have huge teeths and look deformed, also the qaniis usually from that area

 

[Nikka]

This post is the unpleasant truth when Somalis only like hearing comforting lies hence the two dislikes. In 2019 I went on a tour of basically every major city in somaliweyn before my trip I was the most naive person till the cold harsh truth slapped me in the face. Every Somali wants to be CEO/Madaxweyne, but doesn't want to put in the work it takes to get there.

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Yes I experienced something similar in 2020. My family was visiting Lasqoray to see the abandoned port and factory my grandma use to work at. When we were coming in a group of men thought we were Ngo's coming in to give them jobs.

 

[ZBR]

This post is the unpleasant truth when Somalis only like hearing comforting lies hence the two dislikes. In 2019 I went on a tour of basically every major city in somaliweyn before my trip I was the most naive person till the cold harsh truth slapped me in the face. Every Somali wants to be CEO/Madaxweyne, but doesn't want to put in the work it takes to get there.

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Next option is for Somalis in overpopulated regions to go west and south ward , the Somali Scramble for Africa, bring huub and men and start plantations and mining settlements

 

[Richard Pearson]

Next option is for Somalis in overpopulated regions to go west and south ward , the Somali Scramble for Africa, bring huub and men and start plantations and mining settlements

Somalis won't even work hard in their own lands so what makes you think going to other parts of Africa is a solution?

I also do not believe overpopulation is a problem their ego is. Some people refuse to start from the bottom. I have even seen this in construction companies back home. They will refuse to be coolies (unskilled laborers) and demand the construction company for a skilled position often done by a Kenyan. Once they get the role they are clearly unqualified for and the going gets tough instead of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps they just quit and go back to collecting their monthly remittance from their diaspora family.