Are Somalis Black? My answer

[Ragaasi]

We need to stop this “Are we black?” Conversation god it’s so Fucking rinsed.

Why don’t you start talking about something that is actually beneficial for Somalia? Or the world really. Incase you guys forgot Somalia is dead last in every human sector. Ceebteena fiiri.


We got a humanitarian crisis every 2-3 years

Not directed to OP or anything just this is the 3rd or 4th thread on this loool with the same talking points and the same topic.

 

[Khaem]

We need to stop this “Are we black?” Conversation god it’s so Fucking rinsed.

Why don’t you start talking about something that is actually beneficial for Somalia? Or the world really. Incase you guys forgot Somalia is dead last in every human sector. Ceebteena fiiri.

It's 3 am for me so I gotta sleep.
But I was planning on starting a thread on what ordinary people in the diaspora can do once they return to Somalia to build back the country bit by bit

 

[Ragaasi]

It's 3 am for me so I gotta sleep.
But I was planning on starting a thread on what ordinary people in the diaspora can do once they return to Somalia to build back the country bit by bit

Gn Saahib wasn’t directed to you though Wallahi this is just the 3rd or 4th thread on this.

 

[Khaem]

Gn Saahib wasn’t directed to you though Wallahi this is just the 3rd or 4th thread on this.

Yeah I just made this thread in response to another because I had written up so much but it's No problem brother, gn y'all

 

[hayag25]

I ain't confused nigga, we ain't black or Arabs.
We are the noble sons of cush, god bless

Do your abtirsi up to Cush than, we will see if u are sheegad

 

[Africanus]

Do your abtirsi up to Cush than, we will see if u are sheegad View attachment 256112

Can Arabs or Jews name their lineage to Ismail or Ishaq AS? The point is we know our common forefather.

 

[Qeelbax]

You just edited it

You can’t edit 17 minutes later without it saying it’s been edited

 

[senor chang]

My god you guys have this conversation almost everyday

 

[Angelina]

I’m Somali first and foremost. I’m not really interested in other racial identity apart from that.

Although, I find Somalis who want to scream
From the top of their lungs they’re not black in the West as weirdos. You’re at least 55 or more Sub-Saharan Africans. You’re ancestors who make up that 55% or more probably looked as dark as modern day Nilotic peoples. So just give it a rest.

 

[Khaem]

I’m Somali first and foremost. I’m not really interested in other racial identity apart from that.

Although, I find Somalis who want to scream
From the top of their lungs they’re not black in the West as weirdos. You’re at least 55 or more Sub-Saharan Africans. You’re ancestors who make up that 55% or more probably looked as dark as modern day Nilotic peoples. So just give it a rest.

That isn't even the point.
What I was talking about was the concept of the black race and how the identity was invented by Europeans and holds no real basis in reality.
A Nigerian, Congolese and somali may all be dark skinned but will have nothing in common because Africa is the most diverse continent in the world.

Obviously since I live in the west I have to play by their rules including their race classification. However, this type of psuedo-science doesn't belong in somalia or Africa in general since it is a faulty concept that was made by racist whites who couldn't speak a word of any African language

 

[Angelina]

That isn't even the point.
What I was talking about was the concept of the black race and how the identity was invented by Europeans and holds no real basis in reality.
A Nigerian, Congolese and somali may all be dark skinned but will have nothing in common because Africa is the most diverse continent in the world.

Obviously since I live in the west I have to play by their rules including their race classification. However, this type of psuedo-science doesn't belong in somalia or Africa in general since it is a faulty concept that was made by racist whites who couldn't speak a word of any African language

White doesn’t exist and black doesn’t as well. I’m well aware of that, the cultural and physical difference between a Greek and Brit is major and it’s the same as the differences between Somalis and let’s say a Bantu Kenyan. The gulf is probably even wider with Somalis and West Africans as at least Greeks and Brits both speak Indo-European languages ect, however the reason why Somalis have a major aversion to blackness has more to do with the current rep of madow people rather than the actual differences. Let’s be real, a Somali would prefer to be associated more with their Asiatic roots than their Nilotic one and we both know why.

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[Angelina]

Another thread about if Somalis are BlackView attachment 256110

Somalis arguing 80% time here if they Arab or Black, inkaar baan hayna wallahi, very few ethnic groups on Earth know their ancestors like we do, but we are still confused

It’s because we’re mixed. An ancient mix that have stabilized but still nevertheless mixed. If we were wholly Nilotic or wholly West asiatic, we wouldn’t be able to have this conversation.

At the end of the day, crying about being black or not isn’t beneficial. You can’t stop people from seeing you a certain way. Most Somalis just say they’re Somali anyways. Let’s keep it that way.

 

[Shk_ljh”630]

So I wrote down this long comment on anothe thread recently and it was so long I decided to add a little bit onto it and Make it its own thread, so here it is:


First of all, nobody can make me identify with being black since I do not acknowledge its existence. We are very clearly different to other blacks so why suck it up to them to let them accept us?

I remember in school the west African/Caribbean kids used to tell me somalis are not black and so on and eventually I just said f*ck it, I'm not gonna spend all day arguing with these people to let me be apart of their community when I am clearly an ajnabi to them.

And I'm not gonna be moving like North africans arguing whether or not they are Arabs because I have the pride of a nomad with 7 wives.

Instead, I only identfiy with horn africans as we actually share history and genetics and some even language. This is an actual identity since it it built on common attributes between groups of people rather than skin colour which has no reason to exist other than European colonialists said so.

Furthermore, I do not like many African nations, if you have seen my other posts taking about how I wanna colonise bantus in East Africa, I was not joking.

These supposedly "Felllow black nations" have done nothing but occupy our land and abuse our people of the word of the white man whilst claiming VictimHood when we rightfully retaliate.

It is also no secret that the bantu nations have a disdain for us seeing how they migrated and genocided southern Cushites who originally inhabited the lands and tanzania currently has a "native American" styled reservation for the Iraqw tribe which is the last southern cushitic tribe left and is a cousin to the Horners. In short, there is no "Black solidarity" it is all a myth, especially for people like us who some of them call "Arab Rape Babies"

In short, I consider the rest of Africa excluding the horn, to be a threat to us. Yeah I know about Ethiopia and the atrocities they have committed, but I would rather fight an enemy that the somalis have known for a thousand years than these foreign dogs who disguise themselves as Brothers only to carve our nstion up at a moments notice.

I believe we can sort out the Ethiopian issue if only somalis moved as a unified entity like all the other ethnicities in the horn, heck the oromo's see divided between 2 religions yet they have more cohesion than us somalis who are homogeneous. If we manage to become a cohesive unit, it is almost certain that somalis will dominate the region and could even gain enough power the unite the horn of Africa, although I would much rather let all ethnicitied in such a union to have a say because we somalis don't move like amhara supremecists.

Sorry for getting a little of topic but to add on to the previous point, black is an identity built not by the supposed "Black people" but by racist European colonialists who enslaved and tormented Africa for centuries. It is for this reason that I strongly oppose any somali or hell, any african, with calling themselves black as it is a foreign concept made by white people that does not take in to consideration the diversity within this continent which is why many people think all africans are the same because we are just a "continent full of blacks"

In Conclusion , i consider most of Africa to be an enemy to the horn and I also believe that somalis need to not fall into the delusion of this false "Black brotherhood" as many somalis may see this as a tight community and start giving their time towards people who do not care for them due to the fact that somalis are a naturally collective society which is not true for Black/Western society which will take advantage of such kindness and squeeze you dry.

I don't just belive that I am not black, I don't acknowledge the "Black Identity" since it does not unite people based of similar language or culture heck even genetics, but is simply a tool made by Europeans, for the benefit of Europeans.

Somalis need to focus on rebuilding their broken nation and stop getting involved with these silly things ajnabis argue about.

However, I am not stupid and realise that building a larger identity that comprises of various different ethnicities under common attributes is a very benefitial thing so I'd say we focus on connecting the Horn of Africa together through trade and ideas we can industrialise our region and gain the power to assert ourselves on the world stage and not be victims to foreign corporations.

Edit: To add on to my previous statements I'd like to also mention that my biggest problem with the idea of black people is that it is has no basis in reality and does not include a shared language or culture.

This makes the Black identity very weak which by extension makes the Black Community loose and weak.

The white people is another weird crayon identity invented by Europeans however, this has more a basis in reality as Europeans have little diversity and have a shared history and civilisation unlike Africa which was a large and diverse continent in basically every way which meant the people from one end of the continent would have nothing in common with people in the other end.

Let’s be honest most Somalis that obsess over and make it known that they don’t identify as black just hate other madows to the bone, it has not much to do with “looking different”, the “l haplogroup”, Somali Bantu deportation, “jarerterminator”, abu Tyrone, etc. all of this is just cope for pure hatered of the madow people, there’s a reason these trolls will never have the same smoke for white people who drag Somalis through the mud on a daily basis on Twitter in those political comment section, if blackness had as much clout in the world as whiteness than you would never hear a peep out of these same trolls about claiming blackness

 

[TheManWhoIsAlive]

Racial identity doesn't matter because the Somali identity is more complete. It showcases history, nationality, ethnicity, language, and culture. I'm not socially stupid enough to make it a big deal in public though. I've had the occasional, are you black, are you Arab, or are you this or that. In the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Just say you're Somali and move on. Most people who care deeply about race don't have much going on. Most who react angrily when they're called black are simply delusional about how people would treat them in society. You're black to somebody, whether you like it or not. Best to accept that people will see you as they want, not as you wish. Best to not be delusional in life, it'll lead to less of a headache. I don't expect non-Africans to know the detailed diversity of the continent. So I don't bother bringing it up. It's not worth the time.

 

[Djokovic]

You got bullied by Jarers in school now you hate them

 

[Khaem]

You got bullied by Jarers in school now you hate them

Nah I don't hate madows, I even made a Nigerian friend recently

 

[Garaad diinle]

This is one of these topics that never gets old. On one side i really don't care about it and on another it bothers me how some somalis push this agenda and label any somali who doesn't agree with them as a black hater or a self hater. What black identity is there really. We know it's not based on colour since people with brown skin or a bit lighter is still considered black but andaman islanders and southern indians are not. It's a european idea from the age of racism and slavery .

 

[Africanus]

This is one of these topics that never gets old. On one side i really don't care about it and on another it bothers me how some somalis push this agenda and label any somali who doesn't agree with them as a black hater or a self hater. What black identity is there really. We know it's not based on colour since people with brown skin or a bit lighter is still considered black but andaman islanders and southern indians are not. It's a european idea from the age of racism and slavery .

These blacks and white racial categories are not in fact based on fact but on status.. for example,

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[naj953]

I switch it up and claim the side that benefits me in that moment. In the workplace Sharon better treat me good or else hr will be hearing from me