Are you a Somali before you are a Muslim or are you Muslim before you are a Somali?

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

did that really trigger you? we don't have arab ancestry idk why you guys accept fairy tales over dna evidence

Idk about you but my MJ side has a lot according to my DNA test.

Arabs accept us as Arab, we have historical and DNA evidence to prove we are Arab lets not BS ourself. Somalis may not all have Arab ancestry but Daarod and MJ in particular do.

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

So you're an carab who calls for helping people you have nothing in common with outside of the deen over helping people you share both the deen and a heritage with? Confused doesn't even begin to describe you sxb.

Listen if my Somali-Atheist cousin came to me for help and if a Emirati-muslim came for help, I know which I would choose. I'm not going to leave my own kin in the dust because of Islaaniimo, during PBUH Muhammad's time all the muslims had non-muslim relatives Muhammad himself had his beloved uncle Abu Taleb. I think neglecting your own because of a choice they made is silly.

My ethnicity has nothing to do with it. I am a Muslim first but care about Somalis first, our people are too divided to talk about ummah atm.

 

[Kaafiye]

Are you a Somali before you are a Muslim or are you Muslim before you are a Somali? Is Ali from Saudi Arabia who is Muslim dearer to you than Liban from Somalia who is a non Muslim.

I'm a Muslim before I'm a Somali. My relationship with my Creator is more important to me than my genetic makeup.

And I love how you use "Ali from Saudi Arabia" as an example even though less than 2% of Muslims are even from Saudi Arabia.

You could've used Indonesia or Bangladesh as an example, but I see what you did there. And yes, "Ali from Saudi Arabia" is dear to me, but I'll always prioritize Somali interests over the interests of Saudi Arabia or some other random country.

 

[Kaafiye]

More time wallahi the only reason why I'm so harsh on people in this place is cause this place is teeming with apostates, there's simply no love lost. It's an honour & a privilege to kharbash these apostates till they lie in a fetal surrender position, even then the kharbash won't stop.

LOL its exactly the same reason why I'm such an asshole on this forum.

I'm actually a very friendly guy, but the hostility I see on this forum forces me to put on a front and pretend to be meaner than I actually am.

 

[Kaafiye]

Ummah is a nice idea but doesn't exist today. Muslims are divided along ethnic and political lines.

Shame your solidarity to non-Somali Muslims isn't reciprocated.

Almost all nations are divided amongst political and ethnic lines, so why are you acting surprised if you experience racism at the hands of a foreign Muslim who would be just as racist towards their own countryman who hails from a different clan?

In other words, how can I expect an Arab Muslim to treat me courteously when they don't even treat each other with courtesy and respect? Just listen to what Iraqis have to say about Egyptians, and what Egyptians have to say about Saudis. And so on and so on.

Somalis are the exact same way. We treat each other like shit yet we act surprised if some foreigner isn't overtly friendly to us.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Somali is an identity just whilst I'm in the dunya, whereas I was created to worship Allah and being Muslim is our sole purpose in life.

You can be Somali and non Muslim, but you will be seen as an outcast if you left our religion.

 

[Kaafiye]

@Bielsa and you were saying before ?
That a Muslim Somali is dearer to you then what again mate ? It seems the love isn't reciprocated

A Somali Muslim holds a Muslim Arab who calls him and sees him as a Abeed dearer then a Gaal Somali

Pakistani muslim is dearer to a Somali Muslim who sees him as a then a Gaal Somali.

Muh ummah muh Stockholm syndrome

Leaf baba Xaraab alone you gaal apostate xaarka iskaa daqiin.
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Look at this coon right here. This nigga "Lucifer" has an inferiority complex where he's obsessed on how Arabs and Pakis view him.

Bro, point of advice: Stop being a little and quit your worrying about how others view you.

I guarantee you that Somalis are JUST as racist towards Pakis as the Pakis are to them. The same goes for Arabs, and Somalis have been known to say some pretty appalling stuff against Arab people.

So why are you upset if they have the exact same views? What's with the victimhood mentality?

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

So... are you telling me that the Somalis who predated Islam are not Somalis or is it only reserved for those who denounce the faith after? It's a pretty hyperbolic claim to make mate.

Back then, somalinimo was not aligned with Islam. But now, more than a thousand years later, things have changed and anybody who rejects Islam and leaves the deen has revoked his somalinimo card. How hard is it to understand that culture changes and isn't static?

Just because a geeljire is not religious, does not mean that he is not Muslim. He may very well be ignorant. But as for you Somali Atheists who grew up in the West, then I am closer to an Arab Muslim than you fools.

What somalinimo do you exactly have? Not only do you reject our religion, but you reject our culture and consider it backwards. You're a westerner, and you yourself are closer to a European atheist than you are to a Somali Muslim so cut out that BS. We have nothing in common with you other than DNA.

 

[Kaafiye]

Walahi the real kufar I know irl have more respect for our deen than these Somali gaalo. You'd think they have Muslim parents why are they this hostile full of hate and so disrespectful. No one is forcing them to convert to Islam but why can't they at least respect our religion. It's almost as if they are trying to convert us.

That's my exact problem with the Atheists on this forum. It's as if they have an agenda on their mind, where criticizing Islam on this forum will somehow turn Somalia into the secular utopia they all envision.

If you're a non-believer, that's your business. It's not Atheists who people have a problem with. It's Anti-Theists, the Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens types who would openly and repeatedly bash religion.

We could literally be talking about Kanye West or a tsunami in Asia or the Cavaliers winning another NBA championship and yet somehow these forum posters will redirect that conversation to religion.

I can only imagine these losers taking a girl on a date, sitting across from her at a restaurant, and mindlessly ranting about religion as the girl rolls her eyes and makes an excuse to go home so she won't have to deal with his annoying B.S.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

But as for you Somali Atheists who grew up in the West, then I am closer to an Arab Muslim than you fools.

Keep clapping sxb
To the Arabs, their fellow Christian countrymen are closer to them than your black ass
"Muh ummah"

 

[Mike Hunt]

Back then, somalinimo was not aligned with Islam. But now, more than a thousand years later, things have changed and anybody who rejects Islam and leaves the deen has revoked his somalinimo card. How hard is it to understand that culture changes and isn't static?

Just because a geeljire is not religious, does not mean that he is not Muslim. He may very well be ignorant. But as for you Somali Atheists who grew up in the West, then I am closer to an Arab Muslim than you fools.

What somalinimo do you exactly have? Not only do you reject our religion, but you reject our culture and consider it backwards. You're a westerner, and you yourself are closer to a European atheist than you are to a Somali Muslim so cut out that BS. We have nothing in common with you other than DNA.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Nah. You're from Aqeel ibn Abi Talib (RA).

Aqeel (RA) > Mordekai or whatever my ancestor was called during those times.

Somalis were nomads living away from cities before the Ajuran took control of the south. Mogadishu etc was ruled by foreigners. I don't think we are actually Arab. DNA does not support this, and statistically it is not possible for two Arabs to be the direct ancestors of at least ten million Somalis over a thousand years.

 

[Kaafiye]

For Somalis, it's Sunnis but for other Sunnis, it's their own ethnic group.

You can't help but feel sorry for the cucked Somalis.

If you actually think that your typical Somali is concerned over what's going on in Syria or some other random country, then you don't know any Somalis in real life and you should kindly exit this thread.

You can walk up to your cousins and close friends and ask them what they think of Syria and most of them will roll their eyes in boredom and change the topic. Nobody gives a f*ck. Niggas are out here trying to make money and some war in a faraway country is the last thing on their minds.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Keep clapping sxb
To the Arabs, their fellow Christian countrymen are closer to them than your black ass
"Muh ummah"
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I am speaking purely theoretically.

If we were to translate that to real life implications, then the Muslim world is too divided and everyone is after themselves. All countries today are nationalist and put their culture or nation before Islam. There isn't some sort of caliphate that unites Muslims. I'm not foolish enough to bend over for some Arab who have zero remnants of Islam left within them just because they are Muslim.

A geeljire from Somalia who isn't practicing or doesn't pray would be closer to me than a non Somali, but you guys have nothing to do with Somalia other than the fact your parents are from there. You're a gaal whose culture is not Somali, but Western. Gtfo with that shit.

 

[Inactive]

If you actually think that your typical Somali is concerned over what's going on in Syria or some other random country, then you don't know any Somalis in real life and you should kindly exit this thread.

You can walk up to your cousins and close friends and ask them what they think of Syria and most of them will roll their eyes in boredom and change the topic. Nobody gives a f*ck. Niggas are out here trying to make money and some war in a faraway country is the last thing on their minds.

More Somalis have marched for Gaza and Syria than they have of Ethiopian and Kenyan occupation of Somali lands.

Somalis are obsessed with Arabs. I have seen one on Twitter say a while ago: "I don't care about Somalia. Egypt is having a revolution. My thoughts are with them". I couldn't believe it. She felt a connection with them just because she lived there before ending up in Europe. Where was her Somali connection?

Somalis care more about others than themselves. We have seen in this very forum of Somalis defending a Neo Nazi who hates the race of the very wife and kids. Hes not even Muslim anymore

Very dishonest post.

 

[Inactive]

Somalis = cucked.

Muh ummah. Muh people. Muh ummah is all Sunnis with lighter skin than me except especially Somalis.

 

[The_Cosmos]

That's my exact problem with the Atheists on this forum. It's as if they have an agenda on their mind, where criticizing Islam on this forum will somehow turn Somalia into the secular utopia they all envision.

If you're a non-believer, that's your business. It's not Atheists who people have a problem with. It's Anti-Theists, the Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens types who would openly and repeatedly bash religion.

We could literally be talking about Kanye West or a tsunami in Asia or the Cavaliers winning another NBA championship and yet somehow these forum posters will redirect that conversation to religion.

I can only imagine these losers taking a girl on a date, sitting across from her at a restaurant, and mindlessly ranting about religion as the girl rolls her eyes and makes an excuse to go home so she won't have to deal with his annoying B.S.

So... asking questions is bashing religion now yeah? I mean, Sam Harris only criticises and questions the clear bullshit of the content of religion. Do you seriously believe Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged or split the moon? If yes, then the problem isn't with us but with you!

Criticising religion does NOT equal bashing religion.

 

[Lucifer]

Look at this coon right here. This nigga "Lucifer" has an inferiority complex where he's obsessed on how Arabs and Pakis view him.

Bro, point of advice: Stop being a little and quit your worrying about how others view you.

I guarantee you that Somalis are JUST as racist towards Pakis as the Pakis are to them. The same goes for Arabs, and Somalis have been known to say some pretty appalling stuff against Arab people.

So why are you upset if they have the exact same views? What's with the victimhood mentality?

Aren't you the same guy who almost fought a fellow Somali over a Palestinian your the biggest Xaraab booty clapper on this forum keep booty clapping

 

[Kaafiye]

So... asking questions is bashing religion now yeah? I mean, Sam Harris only criticises and questions the clear bullshit of the content of religion. Do you seriously believe Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged or split the moon? If yes, then the problem isn't with us but with you!

Criticising religion does NOT equal bashing religion.

Sam Harris is an author who makes a living writing about religion so obviously I expect him to keep doing it. That's not a surprise.

My problem is with his disciples who repeatedly bring up religion even when it's not warranted.

If you want to discuss aspects of Islam that you don't like, then you're free to ask a knowledgeable Muslim who would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

 

[Kaafiye]

Aren't you the same guy who almost fought a fellow Somali over a Palestinian your the biggest Xaraab booty clapper on this forum keep booty clapping

Aren't you the same person who looks over his shoulder every 5 minutes in search of the Arab boogeyman?

Your posts reek of self-hatred and a belief that Arabs are somehow above you. That's why their racism bothers you, because deep-down you believe they're better than you.

And you know that's the truth.