As a Somali woman when dating/ marrying out what communities are a no go for you? 🤔

[Scipio Africanus]

You have an inferiority/ superiority mixed in together very weird

Learn what "inferiority" is. I'm just aware of my Arab identity that was passed down to me.

I've never made a post declaring other Arabs are superior to Somali Arabs.

 

[enda_el]

I'm not Cadcad. Check my post history about those people.

I don't associate myself with Desi-Bantu people.

lmfao theyre still more arab than youll ever be and many of them have actual nasab leading back to their arab qabils unlike the Isaaq and Darood arab larp. its so shameful i met a yemeni nigga a long time ago that asked ab that shit. in a friendly way he essentially asked why somalis are dckriding

 

[Scipio Africanus]

lmfao theyre still more arab than youll ever be and many of them have actual nasab leading back to their arab qabils unlike the Isaaq and Darood arab larp. its so shameful i met a yemeni nigga a long time ago that asked ab that shit. in a friendly way he essentially asked why somalis are dckriding

Keep crying. They're a heavily South Asian & Bantu admixed people that speak swahili/chimwiwiw gibberish.

If they were just Somali-other Arab mixes then I would've been cool with them.

 

[Lais]

lmfao theyre still more arab than youll ever be and many of them have actual nasab leading back to their arab qabils unlike the Isaaq and Darood arab larp. its so shameful i met a yemeni nigga a long time ago that asked ab that shit. in a friendly way he essentially asked why somalis are dckriding

Lowkey one of the reasons I wish I was hawyie they don’t beg arabnimo darood L

 

[enda_el]

Lowkey one of the reasons I wish I was hawyie they don’t beg arabnimo darood L

Wallahi some of our old clan leaders tried it but it didnt catch on alxamdullilah

 

[enda_el]

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That other guy is right somali men never post their marriages the few online are all from 3rd parties like this. Its confirmed now somali women have am obsession with posting their lives online but now i wonder why

 

[MarcusAbdul]

Well depending on the Berber sure. Not the whiter ones like Kabyle and Rif. Its all about equal with some Berbers just barely closer. In the end we are extremely far from both so stop begging arabs and bashing madows. I don't hold being madow as a big part of my identity at all but being angry at being identified as such by other because of Jahilnimo is cringe.

Those are the southern berbers who cluster really close with horners because they have a similar amount of SSA. Northern Berbers [They make up the majority] share more components with Europeans, i mean half of their ancestry is derived from EEF + Steppe + WHG.

 

[MarcusAbdul]

Still, an Algerian Berber is closer to you by genetic distance

Not really, those are the heavily SSA mixed ones who cluster no different to horners. The average berber does not cluster with horners, they cluster much closer with west asians.

 

[MarcusAbdul]

To be fair that pastoral iron age "nilotic" is significantly eurasian genetically.

Even then, when it comes to shared ancestry it's correct. We share ancestral east african common ancestors with dinka people. If you look at the genetic components of berbers it's not even related really. Most Somalis do not have high EEF/IBM or even Steppe ancestry. You could make a pass with Egyptians, because our MENA ancestry comes from that region.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Not really, those are the heavily SSA mixed ones who cluster no different to horners. The average berber does not cluster with horners, they cluster much closer with west asians.

I know. I just wanted to make @Lais feel less close to SSA people.

 

[MarcusAbdul]

Somalis are still closer to Kikuyu than a berber bc of Kikuyus cushitic component. Out of the 4 largest ethnicities in the Horn. The Oromos, Amharas, Tigrayans, and Us, we are the most madow on average. We just have a bit more of the loose timo genetics compared to them by random chance or maybe bc of their higher omotic. Otherwise we are more black and our features are more nilotic shifted on average. Don't beg berbers when the closest ones to us are extremely far. Genetically we have absolutely nothing to do with those people. The average somali is closer to Fulani West Africans than Algerians and Moroccans.

"The Average somali is closer to Fulani West Africans than Algerians and Moroccans"
Fulani can vary significantly, some are barely admixed with Eurasia while some are 50-50.

The closest berbers have the highest SSA and do not cluster with most maghrebis, they cluster with horners.

You are correct, berbers have little relation with horners except indirect ancestry, their ancestry is derived of EEF which is shared with Europeans. Their IBM is itself a mixture of Southwest asian and SSA admixture. They share most of their ancestry with middle easterners, while horners can't say the same. Components like WHG/Steppe is common in the northern parts which is not present in the horn at any rate.

 

[Lais]

Even then, when it comes to shared ancestry it's correct. We share ancestral east african common ancestors with dinka people. If you look at the genetic components of berbers it's not even related really. Most Somalis do not have high EEF/IBM or even Steppe ancestry. You could make a pass with Egyptians, because our MENA ancestry comes from that region.

So it makes sense for us to identify with the black label more so than Eurasian

 

[MarcusAbdul]

So it makes sense for us to identify with the black label more so than Eurasian

I mean, somalis are somalis. But, if you live in the West denying the black label is absurd. We are the most "madow" of all horners. In reality ajnabis do not care about the difference, and "our features" aren't unique people forget fulani and people from the sahel can have similar features for example.

 

[Lais]

I mean, somalis are somalis. But, if you live in the West denying the black label is absurd. We are the most "madow" of all horners. In reality ajnabis do not care about the difference, and "our features" aren't unique people forget fulani and people from the sahel can have similar features for example.

@Macawisley @Scipio Africanus yall are black

 

[Lais]

I mean, somalis are somalis. But, if you live in the West denying the black label is absurd. We are the most "madow" of all horners. In reality ajnabis do not care about the difference, and "our features" aren't unique people forget fulani and people from the sahel can have similar features for example.

Why do you think eylayes have more san related ancestry compared to other Somalis? Also, do you think admixture levels vary based on region? Do you think there’s a lack of Somali samples

 

[Scipio Africanus]

@Macawisley @Scipio Africanus yall are black

I can get away with passing for Non-Black ethnicities. Me no Black.

 

[NomadicWarlord]

@Macawisley @Scipio Africanus yall are black

لا we sum noble Arabs

 

[Scipio Africanus]

لا we macrobian

f*ck off with that microbian shit

 

[NomadicWarlord]

f*ck off with that microbian shit

I changed it

 

[MarcusAbdul]

Why do you think eylayes have more san related ancestry compared to other Somalis? Also, do you think admixture levels vary based on region? Do you think there’s a lack of Somali samples

Somalis in general are very homogeneous, there's a very slight increase of Arabian in the north although it's likely we got this minor Arabian through intermixing with Cushites from the northern parts rather than any actual direct arabian. It's Habesha-like, of course not actually Habesha people but it's likely that people north of the horn have always had higher arabian and we got that through such intermixing.