AUN General Ahmed Saleebaan Dafle

[Somali Saayid]

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilayhi Raji’un

General Ahmed Saleebaan Abdalla, the former head of Somalia’s National Security Service (NSS) during the Siyad Barre era, has passed away tonight. Allaha u naxariisto.

He was a true patriot and a key figure in shaping the NSS into a powerful and memorable intelligence agency. His legacy and service to the nation will never be forgotten

I know this man used to strike fear into the hearts of SNM and SSDF terrorists. May he rest in peace after a long and storied career in service of his country and president.

 

[Beyle]

AUN , one of the best somali politicians and a true wadani . Glad he got to see khatuumo’s victory before he passed

 

[FBIsomalia]

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Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilayhi Raji’un

General Ahmed Saleebaan Abdalla, the former head of Somalia’s National Security Service (NSS) during the Siyad Barre era, has passed away tonight. Allaha u naxariisto.

He was a true patriot and a key figure in shaping the NSS into a powerful and memorable intelligence agency. His legacy and service to the nation will never be forgotten

I know this man used to strike fear into the hearts of SNM and SSDF terrorists. May he rest in peace after a long and storied career in service of his country and president.

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SSDF are not terrorists, they are our hero. Kacaan dogs who destroy Somalia.

 

[Somali Saayid]

SSDF are not terrorists, they are our hero. Kacaan dogs who destroy Somalia.

Did you know SSDF are the pioneers of planting bombs in Xamar and blowing up civilian infrastructure?

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

This is the man who said MJ property and lives are xalaal to the kacaan terrorists who attacked Mudug. Man, sometimes I wish we held grudges like others. We forget things easily unfortunately and we don't realize Majeertentitis affects all including so called fellow hartis. This affliction need to be studied more.

 

[Somali Saayid]

This is the man who said MJ property and lives are xalaal to the kacaan terrorists who attacked Mudug. Man, sometimes I wish we held grudges like others. We forget things easily unfortunately and we don't realize Majeertentitis affects all including so called fellow hartis. This affliction need to be studied more.

Terrorists are SSDF and MJ top brass who sold out their country. Majerteen use to aid and abet these terrorists just like in the modern day sections of hawiye and Raxanweyn aid and abet Al Shabab. Majerteen are the fathers of terrorism in Somalia and Marexaan are the the fathers of dowladnimo.

 

[DivineMartial]

Terrorists are SSDF and MJ top brass who sold out their country. Majerteen use to aid and abet these terrorists just like in the modern day sections of hawiye and Raxanweyn aid and abet Al Shabab. Majerteen are the fathers of terrorism in Somalia and Marexaan are the the fathers of dowladnimo.

Who caused 1/3 of nation to be hellbent on leaving with deep seated cuqdad after bombing down entire cities and used mass sexual violence and murder to quell just rebellions? His foolish policies fractured the country beyond repair. He ran away like the coward he was leaving behind his responsibilities at the end. He took over a united one Somalia through an illegal coup and left behind a broken nation. Your Farmaajo retard tried to restart the nightmare. Inshallah you will be looked at with suspicion and barred from any significant positions of power henceforth.

 

[reer]

AUN.

 

[Hilmaam]

Aun 🫡

 

[Ashraf]

Who caused 1/3 of nation to be hellbent on leaving with deep seated cuqdad after bombing down entire cities and used mass sexual violence and murder to quell just rebellions? His foolish policies fractured the country beyond repair. He ran away like the coward he was leaving behind his responsibilities at the end. He took over a united one Somalia through an illegal coup and left behind a broken nation. Your Farmaajo retard tried to restart the nightmare. Inshallah you will be looked at with suspicion and barred from any significant positions of power henceforth.

His policies were brutal and ineffective but what was the alternative? If he wasn’t so dependent on foreign aid and oil production started he would’ve continued and most likely succeeded in his campaign to centralise power and demilitarise clans. Similar to gaddafis libya with his tribe dominating over the others. When I think about it what options did he really have, imagine being a president of a nation and an armed group contests your rule, and not only that they plant bombs, are aided and abetted by a nation you were previously at war with? This is Africa so he wasn’t gonna simply resign was he, the armed groups knew they’d be met with war. They weren’t just gonna bltizkreig their way to xamar. They anticipated a brutal response, and if xamar ignored it they would’ve enabled and emboldened them, indirectly legitimising rebellion. No government would allow any other to contest their rule. The Brits wouldn’t allow the IRA, turkey wouldn’t allow the PKK. They use their full capacity to maintain the state. There’s a lot of criticisms to be made about Siad but there’s also a lot to be made about the rebel groups. Im not justifying his actions because the other clans had a right to rebel due to kacaan policies, but the way in which they did and the tactics they used you can’t really argue their innocence. Same with siad, he destroyed social cohesion and radicalised the population through his brutal repressive policies to counter the armed groups. But the armed groups themselves were also brutal, not equally but their tactics were also immoral. Let’s not ignore warfare for what it is. No one makes war with noble intentions, and neither do they sustain their campaign through such. We need to acknowledge the past for what it is. Wrong as it was on both sides it was just meant to be. Siad himself probably didn’t anticipate his leave, neither did the rival clans anticipate the stalemate that would ensue after his fall. You guys need to get over this moral high ground you play over each other it’s whack af, your groups did what they had to in order to survive, whether it was hiding amongst civilians, or getting your weapons from the neighbour your kin just died fighting a war against. Everyone was waiting to see which dominoes would fall and who would triumph. In the end no one did, everyone is traumatised trying to argue the benevolence of their tribal group. Not seeing past the perspective of their own tuulo. Take a holistic view of things instead of being a donkey yall out here acting like righteous jahils it makes me sick

 

[FBIsomalia]

Did you know SSDF are the pioneers of planting bombs in Xamar and blowing up civilian infrastructure?
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Didnt your kacaan killed my people at 70s??.

Yes we will fight against anyone comes to our people.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

SSC elders sending condolences

 

[DivineMartial]

His policies were brutal and ineffective but what was the alternative? If he wasn’t so dependent on foreign aid and oil production started he would’ve continued and most likely succeeded in his campaign to centralise power and demilitarise clans. Similar to gaddafis libya with his tribe dominating over the others. When I think about it what options did he really have, imagine being a president of a nation and an armed group contests your rule, and not only that they plant bombs, are aided and abetted by a nation you were previously at war with? This is Africa so he wasn’t gonna simply resign was he, the armed groups knew they’d be met with war. They weren’t just gonna bltizkreig their way to xamar. There’s a lot of criticism to be made about Siad but there’s also a lot to be made about the rebel groups. Im not justifying his actions because the other clans had a right to rebel due to kacaan policies, but the way in which they did and the tactics they used you can’t really argue their innocence. Same with siad, he destroyed social cohesion and radicalised the population through his brutal repressive policies to counter the armed groups. But the armed groups themselves were also brutal, not equally but their tactics were also immoral. Let’s not ignore warfare for what it is. No one makes war with noble intentions, and neither do they sustain their campaign through such. We need to acknowledge the past for what it is. Wrong as it was on both sides it was just meant to be. Siad himself probably didn’t anticipate his leave, neither did the rival clans anticipate the stalemate that would ensue after his fall. You guys need to get over this moral high ground you play over each other it’s whack af, your groups did what they had to in order to survive, whether it was hiding amongst civilians, or getting your weapons from the neighbour your kin just died fighting a war against. Everyone was waiting to see which dominoes would fall and who would triumph. In the end no one did, everyone is traumatised trying to argue the benevolence of their tribal group. Not seeing past the perspective of their own tuulo. Take a holistic view of things instead of being a donkey yall out here acting like righteous jahils it makes me sick

Did you not ask yourself...Perhaps he should have never did what he did and remained a general under the civilian government? All these rebel movements sprouted after he overthrew the civilian government that was elected by the people. Had he not done that coup we would be a normal country by African standards today. We might have even struck that oil you mentioned. Every single musiibo goes back to him. He was patient 0

 

[Ashraf]

Did you not ask yourself...Perhaps he should have never did what he did and remained a general under the civilian government? All these rebel movements sprouted after he overthrew the civilian government that was elected by the people. Had he not done that coup we would be a normal country by African standards today. We might have even struck that oil you mentioned.

Lmao you’re completely ignoring the political climate at the time. The civilian government was completely incompetent and corrupt. The reason there was no counter coup was because the people were against it due to how unpopular the civilian government had become. The soviets gave millions in aid and none of the planned developments materialised. The civilian government almost mirrored the current one. The economy was stagnant and everyone knows people who aren’t content with the economy will always rebel. Inflation was massive and he lost the war and became very unpopular. Ethiopia was eager to destabilise us in any way possible in what right mind do you think peace would prevail in such circumstances. Might makes right most of the time he didn’t have the financial capacity to see through his military objectives. And his main donor ( the us) lost faith in him and cut funding. His intentions as demonstrated but the 77 war were pure. But his policies were very short sighted, imo if he focused on fixing the economy after the war opposition to his government would’ve been quelled. (People are easily bought). Post 77 I think he was a terrible leader but I think he’d be remembered as a great one if he managed to triumph over the rival factions and fixed the economy. Even if he didn’t get the Ogaden at least he would be remembered for trying. Now his political legacy is dominated but the fact that Somalia's been stagnant since his fall and at the mercy of virtually everyone

 

[FBIsomalia]

 

[Zak12]

He took over a united one Somalia through an illegal coup

The 1960s government was incredibly corrupt and far from united. The coup was bloodless for a reason, because the Somali public hated the government.

I don't really agree with the actions of SNM and SSDF (especially since they were siding with Ethiopia) but Siad Barre being overthrown wouldn't be a problem at all if a functioning state was properly established afterwards. However 30 years later and the country is still suffering from the actions of those who overthrew Kacaan. Even resident pro Puntlander @Thegoodshepherd admitted as much that the collapse of Kacaan was horrible in the long run.

If the collapse of the Kacaan had led to the emergence of a functioning state a few years down the road, the anarchy Somalia experienced may have been worth it.

The fact that we have no functioning central gov 34 years after the fact makes it clear that the collapse of the Kacaan was a net negative. This becomes more apparent with each passing year.

Somali state building was set back a century.
President Gaas makes this clear here:

Many African countries experienced turmoil and chaos after their dictators and leaders were removed, that is par the course for the continent. The difference however is that all of them settled down eventually and became peaceful. Somalia is the only African country still heavily impacted by the consequences of Cold War politics.

 

[DivineMartial]

Lmao you’re completely ignoring the political climate at the time. The civilian government was completely incompetent and corrupt. The reason there was no counter coup was because the people were against it due to how unpopular the civilian government had become. The soviets gave millions in aid and none of the planned developments materialised. The civilian government almost mirrored the current one. The economy was stagnant and everyone knows people who aren’t content with the economy will always rebel. Inflation was massive and he lost the war and became very unpopular. Ethiopia was eager to destabilise us in any way possible in what right mind do you think peace would prevail in such circumstances. Might makes right most of the time he didn’t have the financial capacity to see through his military objectives. And his main donor ( the us) lost faith in him and cut funding. His intentions as demonstrated but the 77 war were pure. But his policies were very short sighted, imo if he focused on fixing the economy after the war opposition to his government would’ve been quelled. (People are easily bought). Post 77 I think he was a terrible leader but I think he’d be remembered as a great one if he managed to triumph over the rival factions and fixed the economy. Even if he didn’t get the Ogaden at least he would be remembered for trying. Now his political legacy is dominated but the fact that Somalia's been stagnant since his fall and at the mercy of virtually everyone

That's why I said by African standards. Sure it was corrupt, but we could've ended up like our neighbor kenya that we flood with our money.

 

[Hilmaam]

 

[FBIsomalia]

The 1960s government was incredibly corrupt and far from united. The coup was bloodless for a reason, because the Somali public hated the government.

I don't really agree with the actions of SNM and SSDF (especially since they were siding with Ethiopia) but Siad Barre being overthrown wouldn't be a problem at all if a functioning state was properly established afterwards. However 30 years later and the country is still suffering from the actions of those who overthrew Kacaan. Even resident pro Puntlander @Thegoodshepherd admitted as much that the collapse of Kacaan was horrible in the long run.



Many African countries experienced turmoil and chaos after their dictators and leaders were removed, that is par the course for the continent. The difference however is that all of them settled down eventually and became peaceful. Somalia is the only African country still heavily impacted by the consequences of Cold War politics.

Many African countries didnt been conqure by three nations ( British - Italy - France ).

So of-course many issues will appear.

Plus Somalis were simliar to Arabian Gulf, each Qabil rule its land, by force Somalia was born. So its normal each Qabil dont trust the other if there no real tansuul from clans that hold capital and doesnt think about others!!.

 

[berberaboy66]

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