Badhan community: Mamuulka Somaliland & Somalia talks doesn't concern us it represents few sub clans

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Bohol

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@Lordilord what borders? British Somaliland borders have been abolished longtime ago (1960) ever since it joined reunion with Italian Somaliland. Right now the only borders
recognized is Somalia.
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
Lol this isn't nigis swapping dhulbahantes these are the people who ruled over you and your minority clan pre-colonisation and now they are part of Puntland,Somalia.
Puntland are there because Somaliland has not gotten to that city to undermine Somaliland.

So you are saying basically Erigavo is also part of Puntland?
 

World

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Lol this isn't nigis swapping dhulbahantes these are the people who ruled over you and your minority clan pre-colonisation and now they are part of Puntland,Somalia.
The Warsangeli Sultanate ruled over their clan, not Isaaq territories.
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
@Lordilord what borders? British Somaliland borders have been abolished longtime ago (1960) ever since it joined reunion with Italian Somaliland. Right now the only borders
recognized is Somalia.
Somaliland is a successor state of the British Somaliland. Just because we entered a union with Somalia doesn't mean our claim to those borders are gone.

How come Somalia has not brought Somaliland to international courts? You know why.
 

World

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You do realize they are inside our borders. Tribalism holds no value over colonial borders.

I meant in all of Somaliland warsangelis are a minority.

Most of Sanaag is populated by Habar Yonis and Habar Jeclo etc. Either way this doesn't matter as they are inside.

Who will control Badhan in 10 years? I can promise you it won't be Puntland or Somalia.
Warsangeli is the 2nd largest clan in Sanaag, Dhulbahante are the 3rd largest clan and HJ are the smallest (major) clan. Either way, population doesn't matter since there are very clear clan borders.
 
You do realize they are inside our borders. Tribalism holds no value over colonial borders.

I meant in all of Somaliland warsangelis are a minority.

Most of Sanaag is populated by Habar Yonis and Habar Jeclo etc. Either way this doesn't matter as they are inside.

Who will control Badhan in 10 years? I can promise you it won't be Puntland or Somalia.

Using this logic then citizens of Mali, Ivory coast and Senegal should be able to trespass each other's lands and lay claims to each others natural resources since they were all part of French West Africa?

And I don't know who will control it in 10 years am I God?
 

Bohol

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Somaliland is a successor state of the British Somaliland. Just because we entered a union with Somalia doesn't mean our claim to those borders are gone.

How come Somalia has not brought Somaliland to international courts? You know why.


The British borders are long gone niyohow. Current Somaliland is based on clan concessions
that is why Warsangeli clearly said to the federal government they are not part of Somaliland
(since they were not part of the signatures in 1991 Burco conference to form Sland).
 

BirtaanJabin

DalJecel the DhafoorQiiq
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You do realize they are inside our borders. Tribalism holds no value over colonial borders.

I meant in all of Somaliland warsangelis are a minority.

Most of Sanaag is populated by Habar Yonis and Habar Jeclo etc. Either way this doesn't matter as they are inside.

Who will control Badhan in 10 years? I can promise you it won't be Puntland or Somalia.
Puntland control Badhan, Xingalool, Laasqoray, Dhahar, Hadaaftimo and Buraan. Thats 40% of Sanaag and all Puntland claims.
You have the upperhand in Sool and personally Sanaag is more valued to us.
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
The British borders are long gone niyohow. Current Somaliland is based on clan concessions
that is why Warsangeli clearly said to the federal government they are not part of Somaliland
(since they were not part of the signatures in 1991 Burco conference to form Sland).
Bro that is what you personally hope it is based on. If you read from the governments website yourself you will see that Somaliland is a successor state to the British Somaliland. It makes no sense that it would be based on clan concessions and holds less value legally. Huge misunderstanding from your side.

Although I will agree that there is some truth what you said it is not the whole truth but the underlying and basis of Somaliland Republic is the British Somaliland Protectorate.

Otherwise Somaliland would be considered rebel controlled territory but instead Somaliland control is referred to as de facto. Basically the same thing one is just prettier word for rebel but heey..
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
Puntland control Badhan, Xingalool, Laasqoray, Dhahar, Hadaaftimo and Buraan. Thats 40% of Sanaag and all Puntland claims.
You have the upperhand in Sool and personally Sanaag is more valued to us.
Yes it makes sense that Sanaag is more precious to Puntland but I highly doubt Somaliland government agrees or care about that.

In my opinion those areas should have a referendum and then the outcome must be respected. It all depends on how the relationship with Somalia and Puntland is at that moment. If there is good relations I believe it is possible if not Somaliland will probably put the foot down and occupy those areas.
 

BirtaanJabin

DalJecel the DhafoorQiiq
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Yes it makes sense that Sanaag is more precious to Puntland but I highly doubt Somaliland government agrees or care about that.

In my opinion those areas should have a referendum and then the outcome must be respected. It all depends on how the relationship with Somalia and Puntland is at that moment. If there is good relations I believe it is possible if not Somaliland will probably put the foot down and occupy those areas.
Wallahi if you ask me, i don't believe Somaliweyn should be a country, it should be a political and economical union with open borders. We'd hold more respect and more weight politically . Somaliland and Puntland and Djibouti and Somalia would be countries while DDSi and NFD would be autonomus regions with representatives in the Political Union. This midnimo bullshit is been and buunbuunis. This would be better for somalis
 
You do realize they are inside our borders. Tribalism holds no value over colonial borders.

I meant in all of Somaliland warsangelis are a minority.

Most of Sanaag is populated by Habar Yonis and Habar Jeclo etc. Either way this doesn't matter as they are inside.

Who will control Badhan in 10 years? I can promise you it won't be Puntland or Somalia.
Sanaag is majority warsengali , warsengali also live in Bari along with Kismaayo.HJ are literally minuscule in sanaag and are constantly fighting HY.Badhan is controlled by warsengali not puntland, when Somaliland attacked las khorey warsans from all over sanaag rebuffed them.Warsengali is around 700k-1million population in Somalia.Finally f*ck your colonial borders , you are so brainwashed that you worship it like a God.
 

BirtaanJabin

DalJecel the DhafoorQiiq
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Sanaag is majority warsengali , warsengali also live in Bari along with Kismaayo.HJ are literally minuscule in sanaag and are constantly fighting HY.Badhan is controlled by warsengali not puntland, when Somaliland attacked las khorey warsans from all over sanaag rebuffed them.Warsengali is around 700k-1million population in Somalia.Finally f*ck your colonial borders , you are so brainwashed that you worship it like a God.
Warsangali dominate Sanaag, and make up the second largest in Bari. Warsangali wa gob @government align urself with tolkaga
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
Sanaag is majority warsengali , warsengali also live in Bari along with Kismaayo.HJ are literally minuscule in sanaag and are constantly fighting HY.Badhan is controlled by warsengali not puntland, when Somaliland attacked las khorey warsans from all over sanaag rebuffed them.Warsengali is around 700k-1million population in Somalia.Finally f*ck your colonial borders , you are so brainwashed that you worship it like a God.
Somaliland has systematically taken over Sool and Sanaag slowly. If you think Badhan will be different you are delusional. Whether you like it or not. If I said Somaliland would control Boame and Tukaraq 3-5 years ago you would have laughed me in my face.

This is no different. This doesn't mean I agree with it, I mean there are better ways but Puntland and Somalia is not cooperating with Somaliland so this is what you get. Hopefully there will be a referendum in those majority warsangeli cities the, few ones close to the Puntland border.

If you think I mean Erigavo you are mistaken that city will always belong to Somaliland. :ohno:
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
Sanaag is majority warsengali , warsengali also live in Bari along with Kismaayo.HJ are literally minuscule in sanaag and are constantly fighting HY.Badhan is controlled by warsengali not puntland, when Somaliland attacked las khorey warsans from all over sanaag rebuffed them.Warsengali is around 700k-1million population in Somalia.Finally f*ck your colonial borders , you are so brainwashed that you worship it like a God.
Warsangeli is a community and are minority in Somaliland. If you think because of them having affiliation with Darood is enough to leave those cities alone you are dreaming.

HY, HJ is majority in Sanaag and Warsangeli is minority... Whatever else you heard is propaganda fabricated to undermine Somaliland.

What are the major Warsangeli cities in Sanaag, Las Khorey and Badhan.. While almost all other major cities in Sanaag demographic is dominated by HY and HJ. :draketf:
 
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