Bale Mountains in Oromia

[Daadhi Tarree]

I can't read the whole account of al-maqrisi to know everything he said about bale but here is a quick description of the kingdom.

The kingdom of bale's length is 20 day and it's width is 6 days and it's the most fertile land of bilad a-zayla' "also called adal or jabarti" and they trade using bartering, sheeps for cows and cows for clothes and such things and it's people follow the hanafi madhab.

Does he mean Jabarti as in darood?

 

[Garaad diinle]

Does he mean Jabarti as in darood?

No jabarti is the name of a city but also the name of the country. The land of adal was also called the land of zayla' after the port city zayla' and it was called the land of al-jabarti after a city called jabarti. The inhabiting of adal were sometimes called zayla'i or jabarti meaning from bilad a-zayla' or bilad al-jabart. The text didn't say jabarti but i added it for context since it was also used in the same time period.

Back then cities had two names for example zayla' was also called awdal and ifat the first capital of the ifat kingdom was also called jabarta. Ibn khaldun the famous historian also called the capital of the walashama jabarti and some sultans of the walashama were also called al-jabarti.

This means back then al-jabarti didn't only mean darood but anyone from these lands and later it meant muslims from east africa. You can even find people called al-jabarti in eritrea but they're not from the darood clan.

 

[SPMLegend]

Those ogaden are probably migrants who live in rayitu bokool or gindhir city

we are also in Melkaa Oda and many other towns which we are majority. A lot of our lands in Bale region have been illegally placed under oromia which is unacceptable. These are local Somali Ogaden herders in bale region.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

we are also in Melkaa Oda and many other towns which we are majority. A lot of our lands in Bale region have been illegally placed under oromia which is unacceptable. These are local Somali Ogaden herders in bale region.

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Can you tell me the districts that belong to ogaden bro I’m confused and how long has your clan been inhabiting bale I heard you guys originated in nogob

 

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Can you tell me the districts that belong to ogaden bro I’m confused and how long has your clan been inhabiting bale I heard you guys originated in nogob

We are native to Bale region before the Oromo expansion we still continue to remain in our land.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

We are native to Bale region before the Oromo expansion we still continue to remain in our land.

Only Ogaden that were in bale were the Adan Qayr I know and I think some amaadin but all Adan qayr in bale got assimilated into rayitu clan around 1600’s

 

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Only Ogaden that were in bale were the Adan Qayr I know and I think some amaadin but all Adan qayr in bale got assimilated into rayitu clan around 1600’s

There was no Oromo presence in bale at that time. They arrived in the 1700’s after they expanded from Kenya. Rayitu is a stone throw from the Somali regional border on the map lool it’s not in central oromia. The Aden Kheyr & Ogaden tribes pasture their camels in the region. With the lack of internet & service it’s very hard to speak with the locals there. Both sides of the border is inhabited by the same family. The borders of Libaan, Erer,Afdheer, Daawa regions of the Somali state needs to be redrawn. A lot of lands inhabited by the Somali nation is written off as oromia on the map which needs to be corrected.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

There was no Oromo presence in bale at that time. They arrived in the 1700’s after they expanded from Kenya. Rayitu is a stone throw from the Somali regional border on the map lool it’s not in central oromia. The Aden Kheyr & Ogaden tribes pasture their camels in the region. With the lack of internet & service it’s very hard to speak with the locals there.

This guyoromos attacked bale in the 1530’s I believe and they fully assimilated the ppl in sheikh Hussein,gindhir and raayitu district by 1600’s at least and raayitu is both a clan and district how don’t you know this wth reer daadhi who are ugaas for raayitu are ogaden ugaas nuur in asal they’re ancestor daadhi Tarre got captured with his mother in danan by the raayitu qallu in the first decades of the 1800’s

 

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This guyoromos attacked bale in the 1530’s I believe and they fully assimilated the ppl in sheikh Hussein,gindhir and raayitu district by 1600’s at least and raayitu is both a clan and district how don’t you know this wth reer daadhi who are ugaas for raayitu are ogaden ugaas nuur in asal they’re ancestor daadhi Tarre got captured with his mother in danan by the raayitu qallu in the first decades of the 1800’s

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Warya were you not the one who presented to me a Wikipedia lineage before? who is Daadhi Tarre that does not even sound like a Somali name kkkk. Rayitu clan? This is the first time I’m hearing this. I thought Rayitu was a town. What is this soo called clan. Plz educate us on your Oromo community instead of trying to revision and make up history Mkkk.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

is that Waaqo Gutuu on your Profile Picture
Warya were you not the one who presented to me a Wikipedia lineage before? who is Daadhi Tarre that does not even sound like a Somali name kkkk. Rayitu clan? This is the first time I’m hearing this. I thought Rayitu was a town. What is this soo called clan. Plz educate us on your Oromo community instead of trying to revision and make up history Mkkk.

No that’s not waqo gutu and daadhi Tarre got captured when he was a baby with his mother by my third great grandfather in a raid into dhanan it was normal ogaden used to do it to us and we used to do it when he got captured raayitu qallu made the mother of daadhi Tarre his wife and she gave him other children as well but daadhi tarre was smart the qallu found fond of him so he let him be his successor. Btw daadhi was given to him by the raayitu qallu named tarre his real father was Sharmarke shirwac brother of ugaas koshin of ogaden

 

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No that’s not waqo gutu and daadhi Tarre got captured when he was a baby with his mother by my third great grandfather in a raid into dhanan it was normal ogaden used to do it to us and we used to do it when he got captured raayitu qallu made the mother of daadhi Tarre his wife and she gave him other children as well but daadhi tarre was smart the qallu found fond of him so he let him be his successor. Btw daadhi was given to him by the raayitu qallu named tarre his real father was Sharmarke shirwac brother of ugaas koshin of ogaden

So you are saying that an Ogaden man became the successor of Raayitu Qallu. How many offsprings did he produce. How many wives did he have

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

So you are saying that an Ogaden man became the successor of Raayitu Qallu. How many offsprings did he produce. How many wives did he have

Yes the Guy was smart mashallah he put a fight with the Amhara but at the end he died a shahid and his son sultan nuh saved the Sayyid his offspring are scattered around bale and marry from reer amaadin and Adan qayr families of the Ogaden also the some of the sayyid descendants became raayitu as well and live in bale

 

[SPMLegend]

Yes the Guy was smart mashallah he put a fight with the Amhara but at the end he died a shahid and his son sultan nuh saved the Sayyid his offspring are scattered around bale and marry from reer amaadin and Adan qayr families of the Ogaden also the some of the sayyid descendants became raayitu as well and live in bale

Oromia Liyuu needs to be disbanded so that the Somali community in Gindhir district can live in peace. It is the non Muslim Oromos from other regions that cause Division amongst the Muslims in bale region.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

Oromia Liyuu needs to be disbanded so that the Somali community in Gindhir district can live in peace. It is the non Muslim Oromos from other regions that cause Division amongst the Muslims in bale region.

Yeah bro they also attack Miskeen Gurre civilians in Guradhamole the oromia government I would say. but are oromia liyyu oppressing Somalis in Gindhir?

 

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Yeah bro they also attack Miskeen Gurre civilians in Guradhamole the oromia government I would say. but are oromia liyyu oppressing Somalis in Gindhir?

The attacks stopped now but they were attacking us very hard in the beginning of 2017. Now their attention is focused on other Somali Territories like Tuli Guled & Jinacsani.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

The attacks stopped now but they were attacking us very hard in the beginning of 2017. Now their attention is focused on other Somali Territories like Tuli Guled & Jinacsani.

Oh during the Oromo-Somali conflict I see. Laakin bro Jarso if their Somali why are they wanting to add Somali lands to oromia that’s something I never understood? It’s their fault if they never beefed Gerri oromia liyyu wouldn’t attact tuli guled or Jinacsani

 

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Oh during the Oromo-Somali conflict I see. Laakin bro Jarso if their Somali why are they wanting to add Somali lands to oromia that’s something I never understood? It’s their fault if they never beefed Gerri oromia liyyu wouldn’t attact tuli guled or Jinacsani

they claim Somali but speak Oromo. They are similar to the Oromo/Amhara Bastard versions in Shewa. During the sunrise they are Somali and when it sets they become Afran Qallo Bareeduu

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

they claim Somali but speak Oromo. They are similar to the Oromo/Amhara Bastard versions in Shewa. During the sunrise they are Somali and when it sets they become Afran Qallo Bareeduu

It’s confusing they need to be stopped they will just cause greater damage to both states later Wlhi

 

[Step a side]

No jabarti is the name of a city but also the name of the country. The land of adal was also called the land of zayla' after the port city zayla' and it was called the land of al-jabarti after a city called jabarti. The inhabiting of adal were sometimes called zayla'i or jabarti meaning from bilad a-zayla' or bilad al-jabart. The text didn't say jabarti but i added it for context since it was also used in the same time period.

Back then cities had two names for example zayla' was also called awdal and ifat the first capital of the ifat kingdom was also called jabarta. Ibn khaldun the famous historian also called the capital of the walashama jabarti and some sultans of the walashama were also called al-jabarti.

This means back then al-jabarti didn't only mean darood but anyone from these lands and later it meant muslims from east africa. You can even find people called al-jabarti in eritrea but they're not from the darood clan.

Brother , Jeberti was a region within Zeila not Zeila itself

"“Regione Jabrah, quae hodie Jabarta appellatur fedes collocauit. Jabarta autem ad regionem Zaila pertinet”

He settled in the region of Jabrah, which is today called Jabarta. Jabarta belongs to the region of Zaila.

 

[Garaad diinle]

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Brother , Jeberti was a region within Zeila not Zeila itself

"“Regione Jabrah, quae hodie Jabarta appellatur fedes collocauit. Jabarta autem ad regionem Zaila pertinet”

He settled in the region of Jabrah, which is today called Jabarta. Jabarta belongs to the region of Zaila.

Yes but the country or the kingdom went by two different names. In arab account you'd see them refer to the kingdom as either bilad a-zayla' or bilad-al-jabart.