BLACK Civilizations

[MadNomad]

I know this was a comedic post but it just depressed me instead of making me laugh

Too real?

 

[DuctTape]

Too real?

Yes
Whether it's true or not, at least we as Somalis have something to be proud of, a lot of these Africans go about their lives convinced their entire civilisation was shitty mud huts and cannibalism for as long as it existed
Even if Somali history amounted to nothing more than us literally being savages for thousands of years we would still find a way to be proud of it, that is the strength of our arrogance :siilaanyosmile:

 

[MadNomad]

Yes
Whether it's true or not, at least we as Somalis have something to be proud of, a lot of these Africans go about their lives convinced their entire civilisation was shitty mud huts and cannibalism for as long as it existed
Even if Somali history amounted to nothing more than us literally being savages for thousands of years we would still find a way to be proud of it, that is the strength of our arrogance :siilaanyosmile:

I dont fret about the past Only the future matters

 

[DuctTape]

I dont fret about the past Only the future matters

You look to your past to learn about what not to do in the future, I guess in that sense the people with less "history" have the potential to do better than the Europeans, who would grow arrogant and sit on their past successes

 

[MadNomad]

You look to your past to learn about what not to do in the future, I guess in that sense the people with less "history" have the potential to do better than the Europeans, who would grow arrogant and sit on their past successes

Good point

 

[Abdalla]

....and then you were enslaved or colonised foh

 

[Bahal]

The Land of Punt is the only legit thing itt

 

[OmarLittle]

@DeathWish

The first Mummy in the world was called the "Black Mummy" because it was "Sub-Saharan African."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uan_Muhuggiag

From the research I have done, it doesn't appear to be the oldest mummy in the world. From your source, it says:

Radiocarbon dating determined the age of the mummy to be approximately 5600 years old, which makes it about 1000 years older than the earliest previously recorded mummy in ancient Egypt.

So, your source says 5600 years old, however -- Chinchorro mummies are considered the oldest mummies in the world.

the oldest anthropogenically modified Chinchorro mummy dates from around 5050 BC.

The oldest naturally mummified mummy recovered from the Atacama Desert is dated around 7020 BC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchorro_mummies


http://www.sciencealert.com/the-oldest-mummies-in-the-world-are-turning-into-black-slime

First King of Egypt

I'm guessing you're referring to Narmer.

Narmer's identity is the subject of ongoing debate, although mainstream Egyptological consensus[2][3][4][5] identifies Narmer with the First Dynasty pharaoh Menes, who is also sometimes credited with the unification of Egypt, as the first pharaoh. This conclusion is based on the Narmer Palette (which shows Narmer as the unifier of Egypt) and the two necropolis seals from the necropolis of Abydos that show him as the first king of the First Dynasty.

He kinda looks black, but he can also be mixed or something else. You have any scientific evidence he was black?

DNA test of Tutankhamun and his family

Do you have a source for this? I couldn't find anything reliable on my end.

Quotes from some Greek Historians and poets for the people that doubt what I am saying:

• Diodorus Siculus mentioned that the Aethiopians considered the Egyptians a colony.
• Appollodorus, a Greek, calls Egypt the country of the black-footed ones
• Aeschylus, a Greek poet, wrote that Egyptian seamen had "black limbs."
• Greeks sometimes referred to Egyptians as Aethiopians (people with burnt skin)
• Gaston Maspero states that "by the almost unanimous testimony of ancient [Greek] historians, they [Ancient Egyptians] belonged to the African race
• Simson Najovits states that Herodotus "made clear ethnic and national distinctions between Aigyptios (Egyptians) and the peoples whom the Greeks referred to as Aithiops (Ethiopians)

This interesting, but I will look into it when I get a chance.

Melanin Dosage Test

In the quest for positive proof, Professor Diop had studied a number of preparations being subjected to laboratory examination in Dakar. These consisted of samples of skin taken from mummies found in Mariette's excavations. They all revealed—and Professor Diop invited the specialists present to examine the samples —the presence of a considerable quantity of melanin between the epidermis and the dermis. Melanin, which was not present in white skin.

Can you give me the link to this study?

 

[DeathWish]

@DeathWish



From the research I have done, it doesn't appear to be the oldest mummy in the world. From your source, it says:



So, your source says 5600 years old, however -- Chinchorro mummies are considered the oldest mummies in the world.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchorro_mummies


http://www.sciencealert.com/the-oldest-mummies-in-the-world-are-turning-into-black-slime



I'm guessing you're referring to Narmer.



He kinda looks black, but he can also be mixed or something else. You have any scientific evidence he was black?




Do you have a source for this? I couldn't find anything reliable on my end.



This interesting, but I will look into it when I get a chance.



Can you give me the link to this study?

1. This is for the DNA http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
2. What I meant was that it was the first in Africa and it was found in Libya, which means that it was the beginning of the mummification culture of Ancient Egypt.
3. Melanin Dosage Test is discussed briefly in page 77 http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0003/000328/032875eo.pdf
4. King Narmer's appearance is the same as a Nilotic person

Do you have any questions about the Land of Punt?

 

[OmarLittle]

1. This is for the DNA http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
2. What I meant was that it was the first in Africa and it was found in Libya, which means that it was the beginning of the mummification culture of Ancient Egypt.
3. Melanin Dosage test is discussed briefly in page 77 http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0003/000328/032875eo.pdf
4. King Narmer's appearance is the same as a Nilotic person

Do you have any questions about the Land of Punt?

Thanks for the links. No, I didn't read the Land of Punt, I skipped over to the Egypt part. If I do, I will let you know.