Breaking Missile fired on marching Islamic State leader Abdulkadir Muumin after Friday Prayer

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Arma

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In as horrified to learn from my father: I'm closely related to Abdulkadir Muumin

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And I've met him on two occasions, way back in the early 2000s
 
In as horrified to learn from my father: I'm closely related to Abdulkadir Muumin

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And I've met him on two occasions, way back in the early 2000s

This guy is dangerous, apparently if al-baghdadi gets killed he is runner up to be next caliph, if that happens RIP Puntland and surrounding areas, they will be a legitimate target for airstrikes from a 60+ international coalition:mjcry:
 

Arma

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This guy is dangerous, apparently if al-baghdadi gets killed he is runner up to be next caliph, if that happens RIP Puntland and surrounding areas, they will be a legitimate target for airstrikes from a 60+ international coalition:mjcry:

Yeah, I'm sure you would love that, wouldn't ya? C*nt naccas. Didn't I tell you not to quote me? Don't qoute me.
 
XamarCade that is a complex question I believe the question should be how can the support for Al Shabab in certain places be lessened and the governance of this places be strengthened as Al Shabab will not be defeated in the long run or its message.

What is required is methodology. Why did it take so long to get a recognized government in Somalia that is in Mogadishu?

No change of leader or symbolism can change the situation if they do not follow every step that is required to lessen Al Shabab‘s grip. They can be more or less successful but the overall situation will not change.

Think of it like a business and consumer. Al Shabab have a better service and delivery and the government in Mogadishu has no incentive. The people who should be fighting Al Shabab and offer something better to this people are quarreling among themselves and have nothing to offer.

Al Shabab in many ways in its operating manual has in it to take advantage of the clan rivalry by penning one clan against the other. It offers clans on the sidelines who feel marginalized a sense of belonging and they often rotate according on who is in charge.

In regions where Al Shabab is out of the picture like Somaliland, Puntland and Galmudug there are things people hold onto like the idea of Somaliland and Puntland that preceded Al Shabab and in Galmudug the Sufi way of life.

In areas of Al Shabab control in southern Somalia people have nothing except Al Shabab who often is their legacy.

Furthermore there is an element of war profiteering whereas many businesses do not want any competitors and therefore want to uphold the status quo.

In short if the governance in those areas are improved and good services delivered to the people and they have something meaningful to hold onto Shabab‘s influence could be lessened.

But this will not happen because anyone in charge will spend 4 years fighting spoilers who are supposed to help defeat Shabab but because of the disconnect they fall short.

Only with real unity and purpose can success come and Shabab driven out. For that it needs a well defined Somalia on who is in charge, what regions are under which state etc.

Elections and a constitutional referendum can deliver more legitimacy that together with a census but that will be hard for anyone to achieve as it requires unity and people of different clans and political persuasion to join hands in the fight against Al Shabab.
 
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No change of leader or symbolism can change the situation if they do not follow every step that is required to lessen Al Shabab‘s grip. They can be more or less successful but the overall situation will not change.
 

Arma

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Being a relative of Sheikh Muunin, I'm willing to do my bit and end extremism in PL, by having a quiet word with him. If anyone can send me his contact details, that'd be great.
 
Think of it like a business and consumer. Al Shabab have a better service and delivery and the government in Mogadishu has no incentive. The people who should be fighting Al Shabab and offer something better to this people are quarreling among themselves and have nothing to offer.
 
In as horrified to learn from my father: I'm closely related to Abdulkadir Muumin

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And I've met him on two occasions, way back in the early 2000s

Do you support him?

Would you still put a bullet in his head?

If you think twice about that question then you’re part of the problem. The moment someone joins a terror group they have left thier Qabil, Islam and Somalinimo.
 
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