BREAKING NEWS: Itoobiya will sign a new MOU with Kenya to fight AS as a Joint Force.

[Midas]

It’s clearly to divy it up

Nah that's not something I'm really worried about. Kenyans don't have that kind of will. And when after uhuru left in the last election . They also lost the competentce.

Ethiopia is even worse off. With abiy destroying Ethiopias social contract i wouldn't be surprisedif the country semi collapses. Ethiopia has become incompetent after zenwai died.

 

[Hotchick12]

why can’t culusow wait for the oil money to bribe these fgs leaders. like i don’t understand

 

[Hilmaam]

why can’t culusow wait for the oil money to bribe these fgs leaders. like i don’t understand

Oil money very far away. He has less than 2 years. Survey alone will take 7 months

 

[Removed]

You are wrong to associate entire clans with HSM and the corrupt people who fill the government. They serve who pays them, not the people. To see entire clans as enemies due to the lowest common denominator who is propped up by gaalo is deranged and unislamic.

Were the Afar not enemies when they were attacking SR? We all get aid money with strings attached but whens the last time I’ve had issues with eelaay?

The lowest common denominator of a clan is somehow their courts, mps, presidents, ministers, and generals?

 

[TheLand]

Oil money very far away. He has less than 2 years. Survey alone will take 7 months

These people don’t even understand that there is likely no oil. They think we are going to bring out a million barrels per day tomorrow like the gulf states. Maybe the iq stuff is real

 

[Hilmaam]

These people don’t even understand that there is likely no oil. They think we are going to bring out a million barrels per day tomorrow like the gulf states. Maybe the iq stuff is real

It’s very dangerous to walkahi. Even if we find it it takes billions to withrdraw safely. Otherwise poison our oceans and animals. I estimate 5-10 years

 

[Grimmer]

Man we are so fucked

 

[Hilmaam]

Madoobe and Ethiopia will never happen due to the ONLF ties so Ethiopias moves more then likely begin and end with supporting Gedo to avoid FGS takeover.

I dont look at the Hawiye particularly the Hiraab and think ‘other Somalis’ they are inherent enemies that im forced to share a border with like the Oromo muslims.

You think everybodys a sellout because you dont even realize we arent on the same team.

Jubbaland is 2-3 million like most fms . The state is vast and has biggest somali river and more rain compared to most of Somalia . It should be one of richest fms. If everyone has their small farm along river or their ranch imagine wealth can be generated once safety security back

This stuff HSM doing I support even if it breaks system because Somalia got to comfortable with this stalemate.
Now everything in open and people feel uncomfortable , let constitution be thrown in trash let us fight with Ethiopia. He shaking up everything for good or bad let’s see where pieces fall. Look at the movement in jubbaland all the leaders got kick in ass and people talking now in gedo , maybe something good from this and madobe secures his seat by getting rest of state behind him and improving security

U gonna have to explain how hiraab is threat to u. I see them infighting more than anything look at abdishakur sheik sharif. Then all the infighting in hirshabelel and galmduug

 

[peterpeter]

These people don’t even understand that there is likely no oil. They think we are going to bring out a million barrels per day tomorrow like the gulf states. Maybe the iq stuff is real

Tbh we can't say either way there hasnt been a survey done to conclusively say but we're gonna need it, tbh we need an urgent solution to save this country, infrastructure, wealth fund or at the very least the ability to grow and import food.

 

[Midas]

Jubbaland is 2-3 million like most fms . The state is vast and has biggest somali river and more rain compared to most of Somalia . It should be one of richest fms. If everyone has their small farm along river or their ranch imagine wealth can be generated once safety security back

This stuff HSM doing I support even if it breaks system because Somalia got to comfortable with this stalemate.
Now everything in open and people feel uncomfortable , let constitution be thrown in trash let us fight with Ethiopia. He shaking up everything for good or bad let’s see where pieces fall. Look at the movement in jubbaland all the leaders got kick in ass and people talking now in gedo , maybe something good from this and madobe secures his seat by getting rest of state behind him and improving security

U gonna have to explain how hiraab is threat to u. I see them infighting more than anything look at abdishakur sheik sharif. Then all the infighting in hirshabelel and galmduug

Yeah this sort of my thinking too. One way or the other somebody will have to reign in the fms . They have way too much free reign to the point they make deals with foreign govts and operate autnomusly. It's better if hsm who's already disliked is the one who reduces the fms's power
So the next guy whoever it is can get to the real work of rebuilding.

 

[Sup]

The fact that this MOU has come to fruition, clearly signifies the upwards trajectory that Somalia is heading to. I’m both amused and happy that this MOU will be “enacted”.

1) It clearly shows that Somalia is slowly but surely, exiting its “failed state” persona. Which is a national security threat to above countries.

2) Ethiopia and to a certain extent Kenya, have had free reign in Somalia for over 30 years, over a decade of that period “fighting” AS, which has been a massive failure on their part as they are still here (unfortunately).

3) This MOU is been used as a pretext to stay in Somalia, not for the sake of the Somali people or to help them defeat the vermin AS, but to make sure that the country stays in its current predicament. Both countries for decades have had this exact foreign policy when it comes to Somalia.

4) Funding has dried up, both countries are in a server economical crisis at the moment, and it turns out will not be able to fund their “mission”. I argue that this “MOU” is a ploy to convince the powers that be to continue to support their mission, which I highly doubt will happen.


5) With both Ethiopia and Kenya experiencing their own economical and political / civil unrest. This MOU is a mere distraction from their own internal struggles, like many before it, it will not come to pass.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Madoobe and Ethiopia will never happen due to the ONLF ties so Ethiopias moves more then likely begin and end with supporting Gedo to avoid FGS takeover.

I dont look at the Hawiye particularly the Hiraab and think ‘other Somalis’ they are inherent enemies that im forced to share a border with like the Oromo muslims.

You think everybodys a sellout because you dont even realize we arent on the same team.

no hes on to something. as i have said before, ethiopia or any enemy of somali dosent care which clan wins or who is more landheere. In the end, they win regardless.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

why can’t culusow wait for the oil money to bribe these fgs leaders. like i don’t understand

I really hope his incompetency dosent get anywhere near that, that will mark our fate as a people for the next 100 years

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Jubbaland is 2-3 million like most fms . The state is vast and has biggest somali river and more rain compared to most of Somalia . It should be one of richest fms. If everyone has their small farm along river or their ranch imagine wealth can be generated once safety security back

This stuff HSM doing I support even if it breaks system because Somalia got to comfortable with this stalemate.
Now everything in open and people feel uncomfortable , let constitution be thrown in trash let us fight with Ethiopia. He shaking up everything for good or bad let’s see where pieces fall. Look at the movement in jubbaland all the leaders got kick in ass and people talking now in gedo , maybe something good from this and madobe secures his seat by getting rest of state behind him and improving security

U gonna have to explain how hiraab is threat to u. I see them infighting more than anything look at abdishakur sheik sharif. Then all the infighting in hirshabelel and galmduug

That is definitely one way to look at it, breaking and tossing around this toxic status quo

 

[Removed]

Jubbaland is 2-3 million like most fms . The state is vast and has biggest somali river and more rain compared to most of Somalia . It should be one of richest fms. If everyone has their small farm along river or their ranch imagine wealth can be generated once safety security back

Whats the relevancy here. Is JLs resources grounds for conflict? If so how is this different from warring Leelkase for a water well

This stuff HSM doing I support even if it breaks system because Somalia got to comfortable with this stalemate.
Now everything in open and people feel uncomfortable , let constitution be thrown in trash let us fight with Ethiopia. He shaking up everything for good or bad let’s see where pieces fall. Look at the movement in jubbaland all the leaders got kick in ass and people talking now in gedo , maybe something good from this and madobe secures his seat by getting rest of state behind him and improving security

Im not asking you to agree with me but its crazy you think this is at all reasonable

1. You are anti-“Comfort”(peace) and pro-chaos because ‘comfort’ is what has stagnated development?!
2. A civil war within the ‘national army’ will make us more prepared to fight Ethiopia (keep in mind, Madoobe is the only consistent anti-ethiopian politician in Somalia).
3. This conflict will somehow make Madoobe spend more time on AS

U gonna have to explain how hiraab is threat to u. I see them infighting more than anything look at abdishakur sheik sharif. Then all the infighting in hirshabelel and galmduug

They are infighting because they are rivals for a seat. HSM himself campaigned on being pro-federalism.

There is an asymmetrical interest/benefit for the Hawiye particularly Hiraab in Centralism. Forgetting culture or history we are diametrically opposed based on that.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

I haven’t read the details about the MOU but Kenya and Ethiopia can feel free to defend themselves within their borders and nowhere else. It’s time for the FGS to close this “open” border policy.

 

[_Yusuf_]

I haven’t read the details about the MOU but Kenya and Ethiopia can feel free to defend themselves within their borders and nowhere else. It’s time for the FGS to close this “open” border policy.

There's no "policy" the country has had its ass wide open ever since Siyad's government collapse. Even then it was probably still easy to walk in. Imagine America with it's Mexican border. Now run that vertically alone an entire country. That's what were dealing with.

 

[Kun_Ciil]

Whilst our enemies conspire and work together to make pacts against Somalia, the very same Somali people are conspiring with said enemies in a never ending musical chair power struggle.

You couldn't make this stuff up. Dadkeena madaxda dameer malahan miya?

 

[Jiron]

we will be just fine, im confident our leaders will eventually hash things out