BREAKING NEWS: Long time Communist Cuba leader Fidel Castro dead at age 90

[Lord Flacko]

There were issaq soldiers who served and died in 77 by Cuban army. This same man send them to kill your people.

That's because Somalia switched allegiance. We could have had those Cubans fighting for us.

Anyways let's not dwell to much in the past

 

[Tramo]

I strongly disagree. How can you say there's no such thing as human nature it's human nature for people to cry at the passing of a beloved one for instance. Which reminds me of another absurdity of the Communist Ideology. How can there ever be a society without governance? This is in fact what the end stage of Communism stipulates.

I'm not agreeing with the ideology, just contesting the idea that vices like greed etc are human nature and capitalism is a universal solution

 

[merka]

There were issaq soldiers who served and died in 77 by Cuban army. This same man send them to kill your people.

We also killed Cuban soldiers. That's what happens in war.

 

[Nin xun]

Are you seriously suggesting that humans will ever be able to have common ownership and renounce the pursuit of personal profit? I don't think so.

Even Islam's economic model makes more sense than the centrally planned Socialist one.

It is a Utopian idea and I don't believe in Utopias.

And regarding your human development comment, Capitalism supplanted Feudal peasantry only due to the industrial revolution not because humans necessarily changed their 'psyche.'

Human beings have had common ownership for most part of human history(i.e. as hunter-gatherers) and we've had common ownership of the means of production in modern history(i.e. USSR) as well. The pursuit of personal profit only makes sense in a society in which you can extract surplus value from labor which you can't in a communist society because any extracted surplus value will be introduced to benefit the general society.

Utopian is having a socioeconomic system based profit on endless growth in a closed system(our planet), the best way to deal with the enviromental catastrophe we're facing is with a centrally planned economy based on the actual needs of the people and not one were people answer to the needs of the economy.

I said human nature is subject to change as I had written previously. The bourgeoisie was an economic class that attainted massive wealth the previous centuries due to mercantilism but did not have a political power which was shared by nobles and kings(Divine right of kings) that's why you had bourgeoisie revolutions like the french revolutions which coincided with the beginning of the industrial revolution and the peasantry where forced into the factory for bo.

Getting greedy!!!!whatever

We already had the K5 and we didn't need to go Addis Ababa but we did and it was a gamble that we lost. The kacaan regime was honest in their pursuit of Somaliweyne and I won't fault them for that, shame that it ended the way it did. The dream is not dead, the dream of somaliweyne lives in the heart of any red-blooded.
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I strongly disagree. How can you say there's no such thing as human nature it's human nature for people to cry at the passing of a beloved one for instance. Which reminds me of another absurdity of the Communist Ideology. How can there ever be a society without governance? This is in fact what the end stage of Communism stipulates.

Communism is the goal, but the step in between it and capitalism is socialism which is why communist throughout history have always said lets build communism which is why those countries had states. A communist sociecty(different from a communist state) would do away with the type of state you have in a contemporary capitalist society which mainly exists to enforce hierarchical economic relations, to enforce the exclusive control of property, and to regulate capitalistic economic activities, all of which would be non-applicable to a communist system(i.e. the abolition of classes).

 

[Canuck]

That's because Somalia switched allegiance. We could have had those Cubans fighting for us.

Anyways let's not dwell to much in the past

Fighting for us (we we we Muslim against the Christian ) you are so naive

 

[Canuck]

We also killed Cuban soldiers. That's what happens in war.

The difference is they send their soldiers to kill your people, the concept of loyalty doesn't exist in your book.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

He will be burning in hell for eternity. More than enough of a punishment for his support of Ethiopians.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

I can't believe ppl on here worship communists.

Makes sense if you remember that political ideology thread we had not too long ago.

 

[waraabe]

Weird our begger dictator lost. I am happy

 

[merka]

The difference is they send their soldiers to kill your people, the concept of loyalty doesn't exist in your book.

The war was 40 years ago. Give it a break.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Whats wrong with the Isaaq and Hawiye members here? I am honestly shocked tbh.

 

[waraabe]

Whats wrong with the Isaaq and Hawiye members here? I am honestly shocked tbh.

We have seen your people for what they are

 

[Canuck]

The war was 40 years ago. Give it a break.

Hargeisa bombing is more than 30 years ago, give it break according your logic and move the silly airplane from hargeisa.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

 

[Canuck]

Whats wrong with the Isaaq and Hawiye members here? I am honestly shocked tbh.

Concept of Loyalty to their dead soldiers in 77 doesn't exist. Those soldiers were their uncles, grandfathers and their own people who scarifying their lives for them.

 

[merka]

Hargeisa bombing is more than 30 years ago, give it break according your logic and move the silly airplane from hargeisa.

The plane is staying where it is. I plan on turning it to a granite statue in the future. :siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Canuck]

The plane is staying where it is. I plan on turning it to a granite statue in the future. :siilaanyolaugh:

Your Hypocrisy is exposed

 

[Nin xun]

One was war which we unfortunately lost and the other a war crime against commited against our own brothers and sister whom we still haven't had any sort of reconciliation with.

Concept of Loyalty to their dead soldiers in 77 doesn't exist. Those soldiers were their uncles, grandfathers and their own people who scarifying their lives for them.

AUN to those who died but they sacrified themselves for a war that crushed us a nation. I honor them because they fought for a noble goal but I'm also honoring them by telling the truth about it ending in a disaster. Our economy crippled, our army in tatters and the nation as whole had it's dream smashed into pieces. Cubans or no cubans, the societs would've been able crushed the SNA all by themselves.

 

[McLovin]

It's not like they came to us and started the war. It was us who entered a war of aggression and like any good ally, they came to the help of their Derg friends. You are thinking with your myopic worldview, Fidel stood for much more than the stupid Ogaden War which no one cares about. He is mostly praised for giving back self determination to his people and a symbol of revolt to the powers of the time.

 

[Canuck]

It's not like they came to us and started the war. It was us who entered a war of aggression and like any good ally, they came to the help of their Derg friends. You are thinking with your myopic worldview, Fidel stood for much more than the stupid Ogaden War which no one cares about. He is mostly praised for giving back self determination to his people and a symbol of revolt to the powers of the time.

No the people of Ogaden had started their protests due to abuse and mistreatment of Ethiopians to them, the system used all his army against them, the Somali government interfered to protect the innocent lives. Same like today the Oromo and Amhara people are dying by the regime.