Can One Man One Vote Presidental election take place in 2020?

[Fahad Yasin]

Interview is 2 years old but Keating is still optimistic. Al Shabaab, Corruption, and foreign interference all possible deterrents for this to come to fruition. Thoughts?
https://reliefweb.int/report/somali...y-council-situation-somalia-13-september-2018

 

[Crow]

How can they prevent voters from being murdered by Al Shabaab? How can an election be legitimate when vast swathes of people living in the south are too scared to go to polling stations? How can they prevent voters coming in from Somali Galbeed? How can they do all of this by 2020 when they haven't even started yet?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Interview is 2 years old but Keating is still optimistic. Al Shabaab, Corruption, and foreign interference all possible deterrents for this to come to fruition. Thoughts?
https://reliefweb.int/report/somali...y-council-situation-somalia-13-september-2018

NOP, the Bvvbbbooooooooooon in xamar can not even secure the city, he is bent on corrution, he is raisng marehan army of 14 year old boys as child soldiers, he is stealing the wealth of the nation- aide money,

perhaps if an honest landeer like an Ogaden was in charge, the rest of the somalis waa xasiid langaabs and they know their tribes / clans would lose one man one vote so dont like it,

untill an Ogaden leads this nation it will not fix, al the rest waa gun langaab with cuqdad, only an Ogaden man can put his differences aside,

have yuo noticed how all other tribes in jubbaalnd are treated nciely by Ogaden compared to other gn gun dhashey , hirale and morgan raped, looted, but we created a mamul, even banjuun have seats,

same in DDSI, all langaabs have seats, even the ones who supoorted the habahsi during our ars are now at our feet begging us and bow for us, like 1door and Mj, when we say jump they ask how how,

they pick our shoes, thats an OG, he puts emotions aside and cuqdad, waa langaab nasab ah,

no wonder the sayid said if i am Ogaden rag ana ugu amar saraya ,

so somalia is dead until an ogaden leads it, we put the long term aside,

i think the consitution should bann all langaabs from ruling,

 

[Guts]

NOP, the Bvvbbbooooooooooon in xamar can not even secure the city, he is bent on corrution, he is raisng marehan army of 14 year old boys as child soldiers, he is stealing the wealth of the nation- aide money,

perhaps if an honest landeer like an Ogaden was in charge, the rest of the somalis waa xasiid langaabs and they know their tribes / clans would lose one man one vote so dont like it,

untill an Ogaden leads this nation it will not fix, al the rest waa gun langaab with cuqdad, only an Ogaden man can put his differences aside,

have yuo noticed how all other tribes in jubbaalnd are treated nciely by Ogaden compared to other gn gun dhashey , hirale and morgan raped, looted, but we created a mamul, even banjuun have seats,

same in DDSI, all langaabs have seats, even the ones who supoorted the habahsi during our ars are now at our feet begging us and bow for us, like 1door and Mj, when we say jump they ask how how,

they pick our shoes, thats an OG, he puts emotions aside and cuqdad, waa langaab nasab ah,

no wonder the sayid said if i am Ogaden rag ana ugu amar saraya ,

so somalia is dead until an ogaden leads it, we put the long term aside,

i think the consitution should bann all langaabs from ruling,

Talking big as if ogaden are the best in lead. Saxiib shut the f*ck up and get back to liking oromo/amhara ass for the rest of your life.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Talking big as if ogaden are the best in lead. Saxiib shut the f*ck up and get back to liking oromo/amhara ass for the rest of your life.

be quite naya,

 

[Guts]

be quite naya,

And where is your respect cagdheerow? Remember to always put superior infront of Majeerteen.

 

[SomaliMVP]

No fucking way

 

[Farjano-Walad]

And where is your respect cagdheerow? Remember to always put superior infront of Majeerteen.

dabyaco be quite,

no female should be involved in politics, go and cook for your husband,

 

[Guts]

dabyaco be quite,

no female should be involved in politics, go and cook for your husband,

Hooyada was what do you mean female? I’m a man

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Hooyada was what do you mean female? I’m a man

you come across as a female with your nac nac, i will not reply with an insult for your mother, since i am your superior leader in jubaland and DDSI, your beneath me,

i do not insult langaabs,


you should go and defend your land from iidoor who are invading your land, attacking day by day whilst you beg and used the darood car,

kidnly piss off,

 

[Guts]

you come across as a female with your nac nac, i will not reply with an insult for your mother, since i am your superior leader in jubaland and DDSI, your beneath me,

i do not insult langaabs,


you should go and defend your land from ****** who are invading your land, attacking day by day whilst you beg and used the darood car,

kidnly piss off,

Superior kulaha
@nine @Sheikh qofkan wax uu sheega he’s claiming jubaland like it’s his. Anyways any regional state you have mentioned are made out of dhooqo.

 

[BankaTuyo]

Interview is 2 years old but Keating is still optimistic. Al Shabaab, Corruption, and foreign interference all possible deterrents for this to come to fruition. Thoughts?
https://reliefweb.int/report/somali...y-council-situation-somalia-13-september-2018

Even if peace is somehow miraculously achieved by 2020; a one man one vote system threatens the credibility of certain groups/entities over certain areas in the south. So no.. a fully democratic election is far far into the future.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

bascially darood would win by a landlside, and they do not want this, and even in amongt darood, mareahn will be like hawiye and be against it becasue in relaity marehan is even smaller than dhulbahnate in numbers,

eley would lose, dir would lose, hawiye would lose as darood is majorty in numbers and degaans,

look at Absame alone, they reside in jubba lower, jubba middle, gedo and bakool, then look at harti and then add mareahn, if its based on degmo like in the majorty of the planet other tribes would lose, if its based in numbers darood would win,

this is why certain tribes like the 4.5, i mean 4.5 says darood is the same number as raxenweyn and dir in somalia? this is a jojke, dir and eley dont even have more than 1 gobal each, yet they are same as darood in 4.5 votes,

i would love to see one man one vote, i tell you what, Oganden/ Absame will bring all of our people from NFD- lots of our people in dadab, Ogadneiya and let iidor and dir bring their people from Ogadneiya for one man one vote,

just by sheer numbers Ogaden alone will easily get 50% of votes, DDSI has not had a head count done in decades, yet it was 7-9 million in 1995, even that head count was made up by zenawi, ONLF claims DDSI waa atleast 11-14 million,

NFD has 3-5 million, Garrisa laone making up 605 of that,

ONLF won one man one vote with 87% in 1994, even though iidor and dir ganged up on us, and that even exlcudes our Absame cosuins, if Oagdne alone won 87% of votes then we can easily say Ogadne is alsmot as big as 505 of all somalis in east africa,

then we have 3-4 million in Dadab, many of them run off from jubabalnd and DDSI, even if half that is cagdheer and they are returned like ahmed madoobe has been doing since last few years, we will crush it,

now the only question for darood is will you put asside your xasiidnimo for each other and get along and rule the country whilst voting for a hawiye or dir or eley the odd occasions like the UK votes for an irish man, sctish men, and a welsh many times even though they make up only 10% of the UK,

will we put tribe aside and vote for a somali wit the best diea, if americans can vote for a socialist Madow we can put tribe aside,

i like to see a swizz type fedrslism in somalia, where there is devloton for tax, edcaution etc, they only share defence and the currency and foreing affairs but the cantons do their own doemestic things,

how about this,

each gobal does its own rules on sales tax, income tax, edcuation, husing rules and laws etc like the US and the federal gov takes say 20-30 of taxation to give to shit hole gobals that are dry and poor, focuses on foreing and defence affairs and the currency, but each gobal does its own domestic affairs and federal focuses on bigger issues, and we hand cuff the predeitn with a strng senaate, look at trump, he is crazy but the senate controls him, doing what it was designed for, so if the senate gets out of control each gobal will have a veto,

the veto was designed to make equal big states like califnornia and little ones like dakota, thus in somalia, say a senator from one gobal can veto a bill by the senate if they dont like it,

just liek the EU, france can veto and so can others for example a shit hole country joining the EU like moldova, or turkey or ukraine,

so we can control the presdeint, the president is controled by the senate and the senate iis vetoed by gobal senators,

 

[Farjano-Walad]

we need to think outside the box, we are stuck in 1000 BC politics,

i want to see a langaab boy smile and know he is able to satnd for poltiics, one man one vote, i want to see a langaab boy come to jubaland to ask for our votes and travel across the nation and feel like he is not judged on his tribe but by his polciies

i want to see a mdigaan, langaab, boooooooooon, gun, Madow say agah vote for me and i will make agah a national trademarked slogan, agah agah, these are my polciies to Ogaden voters and other langaabs across somalia,

otherwise we will contnue having ahmed cade telling failmarjo to piss off becaseu failmarjo waa low IQ chat chewer controled by murusae langaabs

farmajo was supposed to put energy on the constituion, we dont have rukles on revenue sharing, defence, education, has not said what rights the federal regions have on all these very basic domestic aspects,

yet he is focused on chweing chat, travelling and begging and looking like his wife wears the trouses in the bedroom,

we need a man who sits with the federal regions and says likes codify your rights and responsibility and the federal govs rights and so on,

these are basic, even a monkey can do them,

but he cannot come to kismayo and demand 1005 of our taxes with out giving us a single penny from aide money, so we said F off agah,

fro example, he has not even written a law on how much the pm, president get paid, so in theory he can take home all 280 million raised in 2017 and leave smiling, because there is no law stipulating salary for officials, so we cannot accuse him of corruption in theory because there is no agreed law,

what i want to see from farmajor

1) codify the constitution, what rights does he have and the federal regions, sit with them and sign it,

2) revenue sharing and accountability,

3) what can the federal regions contribute interns of men,

4) if xamar gets 20-305 of all federal regions then what is done with it,

5) create new shilling, peg it to the dollar at 2 to the dolar, just drop the many zeeros, right now its aorund $1=23,000 shilling but we must not be allowed to print any more, ideally backed by gold, to limit depreciation, i am a genius economist , it is already de facto pegged to the US dollar,, make it de jure,

6) central bank new one created they joins Swift payment system for export/import payments, with two members from each federal region to have veto power, just like the Federal reserve, US has 13 federal reserve presidents to vote on policies concerning monetary polices, just like the EU central bank and bank of England, the old lady,

7) what powers and checks there should be on the president and how to punish corrupt leaders,

8) how much are bloody officials paid? no on talks about this, UK pm is paid 190, 000 £ last time i check, US president 400,000 annually,

9) a pension and protection for the president after he is finished, we need to protect him and his wife , this stops them from stealing the nations wealth, but if he knows we will look after him till death he may be encouraged to behave, a pension, house, and guards for life, and a young sexy maid as a cook,

10) investment laws to spur growth and attract investment, if i am investing i need to be protected, if i am at risk of being robbed why would i invest? even Islam demands we have laws in business dealing

11) federal judges that have jobs for life, independent, they cannot be sacked, need a judge/court system that is not afraid for their jobs, this is why the US created this to make sure they dont fear fr their jobs, look at the judges that stopped trump, imagine if he was able to sack them, he would change them all with a heart , but right now so can farmajo, this needs to end, we need free judges appointed for life or until they get old and senile,



12) create a navy to kill foreign fisher men and sell the fish ourselves,

13) create strong national spy agencies against Kenya and Ethiopia and prepare to create strong military to defend the Somali race,

 

[Ras]

They've already started to discuss postponing the election to a year later already.

Highly likely that we still won't have a one man vote by 2021.

The federal regions, regional warlords, Xamar bandits, Al Shabaab, regional foreign interest and international donors all would lose leverage if a government with a full mandate to rule comes to power.

Since they're in charge then they'll guarantee it'll fall short of what's needed to unite the country.

Let's just wave the nabad iyo nolol flag regardless and hope for the best.

 

[Sheikh]

Superior kulaha
@nine @Sheikh qofkan wax uu sheega he’s claiming jubaland like it’s his. Anyways any regional state you have mentioned are made out of dhooqo.

Yeah fam he's just a kid that is not from my mammul Jubaland. But he's actually from DDSI.

 

[TekNiKo]

Yeah fam he's just a kid that is not from my mammul Jubaland. But he's actually from DDSI.

He should worry about freeing Cabdi Iley from the Oromo instead of worrying about Somalia

 

[Sheikh]

He should worry about freeing Cabdi Iley from the Oromo instead of worrying about Somalia

Facts.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Facts.

President abdiweli gaas is the leader of the federal states he will support president xaaf and president ahmed madoobe and any federal state president.

Somalia is not mogadishu and mogadishu is not somalia

 

[Sheikh]

President abdiweli gaas is the leader of the federal states he will support president xaaf and president ahmed madoobe and any federal state president.

Somalia is not mogadishu and mogadishu is not somalia

President Jaalle Farmaajo is the President of all the Federal States. And he can do changes. Madhuuso is gonna go either by Elections or by force (Militias). As for the rest if they don't listen to the President. Then consequences might happen.