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He's ignorant but loves to rant. This is meant to help poor people and IDPs not just in the farming sector. InshaAllah it will be beneficial to them.
CBS distributes 2M as small loans for entrepreneurs
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The only ignorant one is you. Did you not check the central Somali bank, you idiot? Most of the percentage goes for the farmers.
I love to see all Somalis succeed but I have to be truthfully honest even if it's harsh. It's just I'm not delusional like you. Even I criticize SL if it's not right.
The map shows AS presence, not control.
AS do not control Ras Kamboni or Afmadow or Dhoobley but they have major a presence in the Lower Juba countryside as you see from the map.
AS control J/Dhexe.
@CangeeroBear They control a lot of territory
The map shows AS presence, not control.
AS do not control Ras Kamboni or Afmadow or Dhoobley but they have major a presence in the Lower Juba countryside as you see from the map.
AS control J/Dhexe.
@CangeeroBear They control a lot of territory
That's what I was trying to explain these idiots. Most of southern Somalia is ungoverned and they have Al-Shabaab influence and presence.
Reer Gedo have done well at fighting AS as you see from the map
Ninyahow reading comprehension is definitely not your strong point.
You're basically regurgitating what this guy said and it doesn't even make sense.
Do you know how commercial banks and loans work? What on earth do they have to do with farmlands that are in the hands of Alshabab?
The loans are not only for farmers, it's also for the fishery sector, small businesses and etc. I don't see where you're getting 'majority of it is for farming' from.
Also your boy @nine just told you that map is incorrect. He said AS have a presence in those regions, but they don't control them. Meaning there are some AS fighters there, but not enough to control the areas. He's from JL and just rebutted that map by stating the areas that are not controlled by AS. This is why I'm saying you struggle to understand people and I've seen you argue relentlessly all the time even when you're wrong.
But forget all of that.. even if we were to accept this map, the strips of land that are govt controlled are large swathes as I've been saying from the beginning. There could be thousands of farms in those areas and they could be the people who are in need of a loan from CBS.
Poor deduction ability, poor comprehension and stubborn arguments baa wadaa sxb. Give it a rest.
@nine didn't disagree with me. Sxb you've misunderstood my point. I think you're the one with reading comprehension.
Also, it's spelt "Poor deductive ability" not "Poor deduction ability" so you've basically reflect that upon yourself.
The map I have shown doesn't say control. It says presence meaning influence. Most of southern Somalia are not centralized/governed which has Al-Shabaab presence and influence.
This is an AU map so it's not false. Read again, it says presence not control. Also, it's 2018.
Now the central government of Somalia admitted that they don't have that much access to their farms nor do they control their farmlands. Let's not forget Somalia depends mostly on exports and 2017 drought destroyed most of their crops. I can go on and on and give you multiple links.
My point sxb is that the agricultural part for loans is useless and waste of money. They should focus on fishery and small businesses. That's all I'm trying to say. Please read everything carefully next time.
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@CangeeroBear @RedStar Since it's Ramadan is best not to insult each other. I'm not against this project but only against the agricultural part and I have my reasons since I've seen the reports. Somalia admits that they depend on foreign crops. They admitted most of the farmlands are under AS. They admitted the farmlands they control are useless and was damaged in the drought during 2017.
Please read: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/31/the-watson-files-somalia-climate-change-conflict-war/
As for fishery secor and small businesses. I wish they push more on that. That's what I believe, until AS is cleansed from southern Somalia and stability is brought back then agriculture should be southerns first priority for an economic growth. As for now, they should ignore the agricultural sector since it's not the first time the money was wasted.
Please read: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/31/the-watson-files-somalia-climate-change-conflict-war/
As for fishery secor and small businesses. I wish they push more on that. That's what I believe, until AS is cleansed from southern Somalia and stability is brought back then agriculture should be southerns first priority for an economic growth. As for now, they should ignore the agricultural sector since it's not the first time the money was wasted.
@Factz is a Grade A hypocrite. No point engaging in discussion seriously with people like this.
@The Cushitic One You're right this is clearly obsessed with me after you exposed him.
P.S: I was not hypocrite in anything I said. "Since it's Ramadan is best not to insult each other." meaning let's stop insulting each other and have a civilized discussion since it's Ramadan. Do you have reading comprehension?
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@embarassing Sorry for derailing your informative thread. 
I swear Cadan baa laga heesaya caawa. Horta raali noqo if I insulted you, but look at how frustrating this exchange is.
All you have said in this thread is that there aren't any farmlands within govt controlled areas and then saying all the crops were damaged in 2017... so no point of giving out loans to farmers
And now you're saying the govt should support fishing industry and small businesses as if that isn't what the whole thread is about. You would have known that, if you hadn't run amok with your AS agenda.
You have a habit of disagreeing with a person then rehashing the same point as the person you're disagreeing with.
Shouldn't the central bank be just printing money and ensuring the currency is legit and can be used for transactions and has value locally? they should be ensuring the notes are legitimate only and it's investors who need to get together their capital and assets and starting pooling it together and loaning money out. The feds have no place in here other then printing the notes.
Only communist countries central bank gives out loans because all the assets in the country are owned by the govt, these guys operate still like siyad barre days. What the hell is our govt system? this sort of stuff will put question marks on it and can mean to business owners they don't own anything and it's govt who owns whatever they do and they will share out the wealth how they see fit in benefit of the nation.
Communists insure their money against every man's assets in the land, it says it's not yours and we will work out a fair arrangement on how the wealth from there is spread out in the population. This is siyad barre days, this is not the behaviours of a free market as the market gives out loans from it's own assets for it's own well being and govt takes a tax where-ever it can in the chain.
There is no private enterprise in communist system, it's all owned by the govt and you will be told what you get, there is no go all out if you do you will be readjusted by the govt as it re-distributes it to needed areas. That's why most businesses and capitalists hate them, their telling them if u build something, you really don't own it and you can't do what u want and the govt has the guns(military, police) to enforce it. Someone in govt is telling you what u must do in terms of wealth distribution.
Communists insure their money against every man's assets in the land, it says it's not yours and we will work out a fair arrangement on how the wealth from there is spread out in the population. This is siyad barre days, this is not the behaviours of a free market as the market gives out loans from it's own assets for it's own well being and govt takes a tax where-ever it can in the chain.
There is no private enterprise in communist system, it's all owned by the govt and you will be told what you get, there is no go all out if you do you will be readjusted by the govt as it re-distributes it to needed areas. That's why most businesses and capitalists hate them, their telling them if u build something, you really don't own it and you can't do what u want and the govt has the guns(military, police) to enforce it. Someone in govt is telling you what u must do in terms of wealth distribution.
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Are we a commy nation? because the govt decides as it considers the whole environment and everything within their domain and your just basically a player not an owner regardless if it's your money or not, as long as you operate in their jurisdiction, it's theirs. It's similar to police laws, as long as you operate in a country, u all come under the laws, no exceptions thats how they view the market also, ma jirto wax aniga leh they will tell u adigu malihid ee umada ayaa leh iyo adigu umada ayaa ka tirsan tahay qayb kasto ka tirsanow, dawlada ayaa wax kasta jan goynayso, shaqaale xun ama player ba uu tahay.
Communist is another word for COMMUNITY, your all just apart of the community and community comes first and it's needs. If they see you making millions while the community is suffering, they will use force and laws to say this is their property and govt owned and u must do A B C to rectify the problem in the community. It's all govt set and directed the market but that isnt the problem, u do need a direction for the market at higher level it's the mentality you can't succeed if the community isn't succeeding with you mentality. It evens out the whole field you wont see rich ppl anymore.
If the community turns around and says WHY YOU HAVE A MANSION AND PETITION THE GOVT, they will bring the police to your business and investigators if you broke the communist laws that were set which is trying to achieve a society where it's IF YOUR EATING, EVERYONE EATS ALSO, the second they see that principle broken, all hell is to pay and it's going against their principles of their state. The community has the last say in a communist society and everything is tailored towards them, where-as capitalists have the biggest say in free market country as u can see the influence they have on government.
Then there is the middle ground socialism which is similar but allows for free market but says lets cover the basics and ensure everyone has at least the basics like home, food, health, education, and eliminate discrimination so all can succeed but they still believe in private enterprise but highly regulated towards the good of the worker not businesses, but they won't say WE OWN YOUR ASSET. Socialism is different to Communism but ppl say it's communism at heart with a yeah u can own your asset and make as much as you want but we gonna regulate u so you don't make too much to the detriment of society.
Communist is another word for COMMUNITY, your all just apart of the community and community comes first and it's needs. If they see you making millions while the community is suffering, they will use force and laws to say this is their property and govt owned and u must do A B C to rectify the problem in the community. It's all govt set and directed the market but that isnt the problem, u do need a direction for the market at higher level it's the mentality you can't succeed if the community isn't succeeding with you mentality. It evens out the whole field you wont see rich ppl anymore.
If the community turns around and says WHY YOU HAVE A MANSION AND PETITION THE GOVT, they will bring the police to your business and investigators if you broke the communist laws that were set which is trying to achieve a society where it's IF YOUR EATING, EVERYONE EATS ALSO, the second they see that principle broken, all hell is to pay and it's going against their principles of their state. The community has the last say in a communist society and everything is tailored towards them, where-as capitalists have the biggest say in free market country as u can see the influence they have on government.
Then there is the middle ground socialism which is similar but allows for free market but says lets cover the basics and ensure everyone has at least the basics like home, food, health, education, and eliminate discrimination so all can succeed but they still believe in private enterprise but highly regulated towards the good of the worker not businesses, but they won't say WE OWN YOUR ASSET. Socialism is different to Communism but ppl say it's communism at heart with a yeah u can own your asset and make as much as you want but we gonna regulate u so you don't make too much to the detriment of society.
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Socialism is probably the closest thing to genuine humanity system, it allows you to succeed but at the same time limits the damage of your success and takes into consideration the poor. Most humanity were like that even in the stone age and tribes, someone always succeeded but they helped the needy or the hurt among them, even animals do this. You could argue religion is socialist also, it's about the good of the ummah or community again.
It could be argued a pure form capitalism is what you see in Africa, it's a few individuals who own it all and the rest of the ppl are basically peasants and struggling but funny they call themselves SOCIALIST STATES looooooool, that's what I mean u cant trust ppl words anymore. Even Somalia could be argued as pure capitalism where all the bakaro boys own it all and the rest of society are just struggling. If you ever see an African leader and he says he is a socialist, just point out where is the social well being in your society, your people are struggling to put food on the table while you dance around with the london and paris 1%
It's weird the ppl in west who say they capitalists and free market believers are more socialists when u look at their actions like the spreading of the wealth of profits in trump tax cuts to workers, none of that shit would happen in africa, one or two wud walk away with it and say my political views are socialism. looooooool. It's all back to front the world.
It could be argued a pure form capitalism is what you see in Africa, it's a few individuals who own it all and the rest of the ppl are basically peasants and struggling but funny they call themselves SOCIALIST STATES looooooool, that's what I mean u cant trust ppl words anymore. Even Somalia could be argued as pure capitalism where all the bakaro boys own it all and the rest of society are just struggling. If you ever see an African leader and he says he is a socialist, just point out where is the social well being in your society, your people are struggling to put food on the table while you dance around with the london and paris 1%
It's weird the ppl in west who say they capitalists and free market believers are more socialists when u look at their actions like the spreading of the wealth of profits in trump tax cuts to workers, none of that shit would happen in africa, one or two wud walk away with it and say my political views are socialism. looooooool. It's all back to front the world.
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Most of the ppl termed capitalists or right wing is nonsense in the west, their against the govt taking it's money and wasting it, they don't mind being good to their workers and sharing the pie. True capitalists are in places like dubai, africa, these are the traits of a capitalist where it's not about paying taxes to govt but more so about certain click walking away with the loot to the detriment of all.
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