China is so efficient I love that country

[Nur_]

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[NordicSomali]

We are natural trading partners. They got cheap goods and we can export cheap stuff to them.

 

[Shimbiris]

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I explained this a couple of times in the past:

It's a form of selection bias the environment in the Gulf creates. Countries like the UAE effectively don't have refugee programs or anything like that. Whatever they do sometimes take in is so low it's pretty much non-existent. The only way you can live in those countries is:

• You own a business or have a significant investment in the country
• You are employed by a legitimate and registered business in the country
• You are employed by the government

That's pretty much it. Only avenues for having a visa. They deport you otherwise and even if you somehow stayed as an illegal it would be a tough life as no high-paying legitimate businesses would hire you and there's no social safety net for non-citizens whatsoever or concepts like homeless shelters. You'd be torturing yourself and pulling off the books slave labor-like wages.

So all the Somalis in the Khaleej, particularly in the UAE, Qatar, Oman and Kuwait which I'm more privy to tend to be either well-off business people, educated working professionals or at least dudes and women who are hustling and working in some way (off the books Somali community taxi-drivers who have another low-paying job, girls who work as housekeepers for Somali households exclusively while pretending to be a niece staying with them etc). Growing up most of the kids I grew up with's parents were cops, doctors, dentists, small-business owners, wealthy business tycoons back in Somalia/Somaliland who wanted their families nearby and the like.

Very different strata of Somali society from refugees in the west.

It doesn't apply all over Africa and Asia. Asian and African Somali diasporans have to deal with the fact that most of these countries don't offer citizenship (barring Kenya, Ethiopia and Jabuuti), or a social safety net and you basically have to work to survive or even just not get deported.

Somalis in these parts of the world are usually anything from laborers, low-skilled workers, educated professionals, middle to upper class entrepreneurs, diplomats and so on. Very different sort of community from that in the west. It's one reason why all the crazy crime stories that come out of places like Canada and Europe always startled me. That is not the Somalis I know in the gulf by a mile.

Just examples from the kids I grew up with (using fake names):

• Axmad: Aabo was a radiologist and hooyo was a cop with the Dubai police
• Cabdi & Hodan: Aabo was some sort of analyst for an oil company and hooyo was an assistant to the CEO or some other big wig
• Xirsi and Jamac: Aabo owned a large stake in a telecom business and had many assets all over the place and hooyo was a housewife
• This large group of sisters I know: Aabo was a Pediatrician and hooyo owned a stake in a telecom business and had a managerial role (generally a businesswoman)
• These girls who don't live too far from where I do: Both aabo and hooyo were cops until they retired recently I believe (Sharjah police, I think)

Different cohort of Somali society being selected for. In a weird way, the Khaleej, other parts of Asia and even some parts of Africa are in part where the educated and well-off Somalis brain-drained to rather than The West.

 

[Cartan Boos]

Chinise citys and just Asian city’s in general are surreal they have top tier aesthetics

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lets stop the glaze, thats night lights in day time its depressing as shit, they have no unique modern architecture, u can find these in every modern cities

 

[Nur_]

lets stop the glaze, thats night lights in day time its depressing as shit, they have no unique modern architecture, u can find these in every modern cities

I'd rather live in a modern city than what we have in Somalia right now though

 

[gasara]

Hard pill to swallow but until Somali culture stops looking down on manual labour like we some entitled gulf Arabs and this ridiculous obsession with clans goes away we won’t go anywhere

I think this might be an area specific thing because you can go back home and see people doing manual. But whats happening is those rich people love to undercut the price of labour and hire very miskeen poor people to work. No one can compete against slave labour. Its no different then in Canada how they brought so many people who are willing to live in horrible conditions whilst getting horrible wages. We need honest business man but we are living in a time of greed.

 

[Ashraf]

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The way Indians work so hard bro it’s a shame their country isn’t rich they have to the potential to rival indayar weyne like china. Sad to see asias decline as a continent could’ve had so many superpowers, Middle East East Asia South Asia like so much wasted potential.

 

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Your taking about garre which I am maternally

 

[Espaa_]

Your taking about garre which I am maternally

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[Espaa_]

The way Indians work so hard bro it’s a shame their country isn’t rich they have to the potential to rival indayar weyne like china. Sad to see asias decline as a continent could’ve had so many superpowers, Middle East East Asia South Asia like so much wasted potential.

East Asia is incredibly rich allahuma baarik. South Asia as a whole realistically should be more modern and developed than East Asian Island nations like Japan or Korea. But unfortunately India operates under a caste system which leaves individuals wanting to leave the country. [theres many more factors than this but I picked the top reason]. Sri Lanka however is a powerhouse and is incredibly rich and stable. It also boasts comfortable living standards compared to the rest of the South Asian subcontinent

 

[The truth seeker]

Sxb it's just generally Asian countries are like 50-80 years ahead of America infrastructure.

@Taintedlove difference between wealthy and regular suburbs is crazy