Argobbas? Same niggas that claim theyโre banu Hashim werenโt even Muslims 490 years ago?
Also one of those screenshots named dropped Qawat which is the language beta Israelis speak. More proof they were just pagans who wanted to seem special
Chinese (Song Dynasty) Trade Mission In Somalia (995-1081)
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Also one of those screenshots named dropped Qawat which is the language beta Israelis speak. More proof they were just pagans who wanted to seem special
Sounds like the black khamiis that Somali leaders & higher class town folk used to wear is at least 900 years old. Interestingly stuff
Emir of Zayla
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Which prince?Shewa came from Somali prince name actually which is hilarious
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This visitor was describing Berbera port.
Sxb what the source, where did u get this
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Seems to be about right, the Malagasy people settled Madagascar about 700CE.
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- Due to the extensive use of elephants by the Song Dynasty royal family As a result, the demand for ivory increased greatly, and Mogadishu became the largest port for the ivory trade with China. After the Southern Song Dynasty, the demand for fragrant medicines continued to grow, including frankincense, woody incense, myrrh, Dried blood, ambergris, benzoin, amber, tortoise shell, aloe, etc., mainly come from Somalia, so maritime trade activities with Somalia have become increasingly prosperous. In the late 13th century, the exchanges between the two countries became closer. In 1282, Kublai Khan sent an envoy to visit Somalia. Gadishu. In 1285, Mogadishu also sent envoys to China for a return visit. "Yuan Shi" records that in 1286, envoys from 10 East African countries and India, Sri Lanka, Sumatra and other countries came to China at the same time, including the envoys from Mogadishu. After Ben Batuta visited Mogadishu in 1332, he said [โฆ]โ
"South of Mogadishu is the area of Arab immigrants on the East African coast. These immigrants originally lived in the west of the Persian country. Their eyes are dark and their bodies are black. Therefore, from the geographical latitude point of view, it is located south of Java, so Chinese historical records call it the South China Sea Food. In the second year of the Taiping Xingguo reign in the Northern Song Dynasty (977), the entourage of the food envoys who came to China were all dark-eyed and dark-skinned. They were obviously San people from the east coast of Africa. Later, in Yuanfeng During the 19th century (1078-1085), we also received such shady envoys. At that time, the Javanese crossed the Indian Ocean and came to the Sanzhi coast of East Africa to exchange goods, opening up the China-Java-Tanzania trade with Javanese as the medium. route. This promoted maritime trade between black people in East Africa and Sumatra and Java, and also allowed them to conduct commercial trade activities with China via the southern Indian Ocean. In the second half of the 11th century, China not only established a strong trading base in Sumatra, but also New trading posts were established in the Maldives Islands, Manda Island and Zanzibar Island off the coast of East Africa. At that time, most areas from Java and Sumatra in the east to Pemba, Zanzibar and Madagascar Islands in East Africa in the west had become China maritime[โฆ] https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/ๆตทไธไธ่ทฏๅฒ่ฏ/LZN-EAAAQBAJ?hl=en
bookmarked and will research each book
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Nothing magical really. All i did is using search alongside google translate and bit of intuition.
Here is the first link.
Li shi xue
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Text says
ๆฉๅจๅ ซไธ็บช,ไธญๅฝๅทฒๅๆณฝๆๆธฏ้่ช,ๅฝๆถๅจ่ดพ่ฝ( 730 ๅนดโ 805 ๅนด)่ฎฐๅฝ็่ช็บฟไธญๅซไธๅ ฐๅฝ,่ขซๅฝไฝๅฐๅบฆๆด่ฅฟ้จๅฐๅบไธญๅฝๅธ่น่ช็บฟๆๅ็็ป็นๆธฏใๆไปฅไธ้บปๅ ฐๅฝ็ไธญๅฟๆฏๆณฝๆใ
Translation:
Romanization of the kingdom.
ไธ้บปๅ ฐๅฝ็ไธญๅฟๆฏๆณฝๆใ
Sฤn mรก lรกn guรณ de zhลngxฤซn shรฌ zรฉ lฤ.
The center of the Sammaran/sammalan Kingdom is Zela.
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Divine Fertility
This book uniquely explores the impact of indigenous ideology and thought on everyday life in Northeast Africa. Furthermore, in highlighting the diversity in pre-Christian, pre-Islamic regional beliefs and practices that extend beyond the simplistic political arguments of the current dominant...
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This thread has the same energy;
Garaad diinle
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This is a coin, a chinece coin from the song dynasty dated between 1040-1050 ad found in harlaa site near dire dhabe. Does this date mean anything to you? It should cause it's really close to the date of the very first official delegation sent by the sammalan kingdom to the chines court in 1003 ad but also according the chinese accounts there were more such expedition sent by the sammalan kingdom up until the mongol era.
One such expedition very close to the date of this coin happened in 1053 ad. They also found a coin from the tang dynasty and although it was made in 621 ad or one year before hijra it was in circulation for a long time. At it's earliest it could've come to northern somalia around the eighth century which corresponds to the account of jia dan.
Any literature on the history of northern somali especially during this particular time time period cannot be found hence why the somali people are considered to be an oral society but even then oral history doesn't talk much about maritime history of somalis. This discovery are in effect an archaeological account of the journey embarked by somali sailors to the far east through the rough seas all the way to the middle kingdom.
Map of the harlaa site.
These coins alongside many other artefacts were found in harlaa a site that is about 158,2 miles from the coast which speaks volumes of the extend, size and power of the sammalan kingdom. Matter of fact it's size corresponds to the kingdom of zeila which was part of ifat. The site has tightly pact dense construction in comparisons to it's surroundings which indicates it's important and with the amount of stuff found in this site i'd be reasonable to assume that it might've been the capital of the sammalan kingdom.
Jewellery molds found in harlaa and some some somali jewels.
If anything this showcases that the sammalan kingdom was far from a simple kingdom and it was well organised, vast and urbanized. Although the site has material culture from 11th-10th century the site itself is way older than this and goes back all the way to the 6th century which also happens to be the very first mention of berbera in arab account.
An arabian poet and a prince from the kingdom of kinda right in the middle of the arabian peninsula talked about the the horses bought from berbera and of a mercenary contingent in the army of kinda consisting of solders from berbera. The site also has cave paintings similar to these found all over north somalia which means that long before it was settled it use to be in the somali cave painting cultural sphere.
Cave paintings.
In conclusion this discovery dates back to the expedition of the sammalan kingdom and it was brought by it to east africa by somali sailors. The sammalan kingdom is very old but also powerful and what would later became the kingdom of zeila in arab accounts is but a successor of the sammalan kingdom who's king was also called amir of zeila.
Song dynasty coins of various time period from between 1030-1100 ad were found in that area alone which would be in line with the song dynasty account of the numerus envoys sent by the kingdom of sammalan to china. There is also older tang dynasty coins also found in the site which could be a hint to the age of the sammalan kingdom mind you the same location was also called sanlan/samlan in jia dan account around the eighth centruy.
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So sammalan kingdom=Harla Kingdom ?
This is a coin, a chinece coin from the song dynasty dated between 1040-1050 ad found in harlaa site near dire dhabe. Does this date mean anything to you? It should cause it's really close to the date of the very first official delegation sent by the sammalan kingdom to the chines court in 1003 ad but also according the chinese accounts there were more such expedition sent by the sammalan kingdom up until the mongol era.
One such expedition very close to the date of this coin happened in 1053 ad. They also found a coin from the tang dynasty and although it was made in 621 ad or one year before hijra it was in circulation for a long time. At it's earliest it could've come to northern somalia around the eighth century which corresponds to the account of jia dan.
Any literature on the history of northern somali especially during this particular time time period cannot be found hence why the somali people are considered to be an oral society but even then oral history doesn't talk much about maritime history of somalis. This discovery are in effect an archaeological account of the journey embarked by somali sailors to the far east through the rough seas all the way to the middle kingdom.
Map of the harlaa site.
These coins alongside many other artefacts were found in harlaa a site that is about 158,2 miles from the coast which speaks volumes of the extend, size and power of the sammalan kingdom. Matter of fact it's size corresponds to the kingdom of zeila which was part of ifat. The site has tightly pact dense construction in comparisons to it's surroundings which indicates it's important and with the amount of stuff found in this site i'd be reasonable to assume that it might've been the capital of the sammalan kingdom.
Jewellery molds found in harlaa and some some somali jewels.
If anything this showcases that the sammalan kingdom was far from a simple kingdom and it was well organised, vast and urbanized. Although the site has material culture from 11th-10th century the site itself is way older than this and goes back all the way to the 6th century which also happens to be the very first mention of berbera in arab account.
An arabian poet and a prince from the kingdom of kinda right in the middle of the arabian peninsula talked about the the horses bought from berbera and of a mercenary contingent in the army of kinda consisting of solders from berbera. The site also has cave paintings similar to these found all over north somalia which means that long before it was settled it use to be in the somali cave painting cultural sphere.
Cave paintings.
In conclusion this discovery dates back to the expedition of the sammalan kingdom and it was brought by it to east africa by somali sailors. The sammalan kingdom is very old but also powerful and what would later became the kingdom of zeila in arab accounts is but a successor of the sammalan kingdom who's king was also called amir of zeila.
Song dynasty coins of various time period from between 1030-1100 ad were found in that area alone which would be in line with the song dynasty account of the numerus envoys sent by the kingdom of sammalan to china. There is also older tang dynasty coins also found in the site which could be a hint to the age of the sammalan kingdom mind you the same location was also called sanlan/samlan in jia dan account around the eighth centruy.
Garaad diinle
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Sammalan is how the chinese pronounced somali. Wither xarla was considered the rulers of this kingdom or not isn't very clear as of yet.
Somali_patriotic
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Harla was a majority pagan region brother
There were considerable amount of non-locals in the city (most likely somalis)
They're probably the people who brought them there.
Emir of Zayla
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Was Harla not a Somali subclan that eventually assimilated into Hararghe and the neighboring regions after the Futuh?
LMAO this showed without a doubt all the Ethio- nationalist & banaadiri lies about Somali civilization being built by shsishiye was a complete lie. First Harla being proved as a Somali subclan by @Cartan Boos & now this.
This was the lineage told from an assimilate Harla clan in the Afar region of Ethiopia.
Seems like from this we can assume that Harlaโs were some sort of Darood subclan.
Also note that the Chinese were referring to this kingdom as the Somali kingdom. Itโs possible at this time period that Harlaโs hadnโt developed a separate identity from their pastoralists neighbours yet
Somali_patriotic
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There were 2 different harlas it seems.
One is a tribe (somali) while the other is a regional identity with people of various backgrounds.
โI subjugated the peoples of Rauso who live in the midst of incense-gathering Barbarians between great waterless plains, and I subjugated the people of Solate, whom I ordered to guard the coasts of the sea. All these people, enclosed by mighty mountainsโ
This could be an even older mention, itโs from an Adulite throne which dates back to the 3rd century.
