nomadicblood
I am not a farax
It doesn't make sense what you say. Don't you see what you type?
You called it slander and accusation. Bring your proof baarak’Allaahu feekum.
Compelling evidences for the prophethood of Muhammad PBUH
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It doesn't make sense what you say. Don't you see what you type?
You called it slander and accusation. Bring your proof baarak’Allaahu feekum.
nomadicblood
I am not a farax
The proof is in your articles but you fail to realise ukhti
I am stubborn as a person. I didnt get it first time but now i see. I put the wrong site.
I hope you got my point. It is strange that he gets these accusations.
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
@nomadicblood
If rebelling against the ruler is proof of being a khawarij then what about the revolts of Al Hussein (grandson of the prophet peace be upon him) or Abdullah ibn Zubayr or the countless ulama who viewed it permissible to revolt against an unjust ruler like Imam Maalik, Imam Abu hanifa, Imam shafi etc ?
Had it been the case that merely rebelling against a ruler was enough to declare someone to be khariji then why has no scholar in the history of islam declared Al Hussein or any salaf, taabieen who revolted to be from among them ? Do you believe that the Prophet's grandson was a khariji for rebelling against yazid ibn muawiya ? The Ulama differed on this issue so instead of providing a nuanced view explaining this what you have is selective reading by the people whom you blindly follow ie madkhali, SPUB, troid etc.
What's even surprising is the fact that saudi state after it's formation rebelled against ottoman rule, even worse is that they considered the turks to be mushrikeen and fought them. In fact it was Muhammed ibn Abdulwahab who accused the turks to be mushriks and subsequently made takfir on them, all those who came after him did so as well.
How they manage to ignore this and accuse others of being khawarij simply for holding valid views is simply astonishing ruunti.
If rebelling against the ruler is proof of being a khawarij then what about the revolts of Al Hussein (grandson of the prophet peace be upon him) or Abdullah ibn Zubayr or the countless ulama who viewed it permissible to revolt against an unjust ruler like Imam Maalik, Imam Abu hanifa, Imam shafi etc ?
Had it been the case that merely rebelling against a ruler was enough to declare someone to be khariji then why has no scholar in the history of islam declared Al Hussein or any salaf, taabieen who revolted to be from among them ? Do you believe that the Prophet's grandson was a khariji for rebelling against yazid ibn muawiya ? The Ulama differed on this issue so instead of providing a nuanced view explaining this what you have is selective reading by the people whom you blindly follow ie madkhali, SPUB, troid etc.
What's even surprising is the fact that saudi state after it's formation rebelled against ottoman rule, even worse is that they considered the turks to be mushrikeen and fought them. In fact it was Muhammed ibn Abdulwahab who accused the turks to be mushriks and subsequently made takfir on them, all those who came after him did so as well.
How they manage to ignore this and accuse others of being khawarij simply for holding valid views is simply astonishing ruunti.
Read this article akhi.
The Revolt of some of the Early Scholars of Islam and the Case of Husayn Ibn Ali: Revolution against the Tyranny of Muslim Rulers in Light of the Sunnah and the Manhaj of the Salaf - Abu Khadeejah أبو خديجة
Those who revolt against the Muslim rulers and rise-up in opposition to them have no proof for their actions when they claim they are following the example of some of the virtuous Salaf (early Muslims) who rebelled. What they regard as "proof" is actually not proof for them at all.
www.abukhadeejah.com
Abu Khadeejah is a fraud exposed by Mohamed Hijab and other UK Muslims. He's the same fool who said fighting in the Saudi army is "Jihaad" and defends the Zionist puppet state of Satanic Arabia. Use your own logic and stop being a braindead donkey.Read this article akhi.
The Revolt of some of the Early Scholars of Islam and the Case of Husayn Ibn Ali: Revolution against the Tyranny of Muslim Rulers in Light of the Sunnah and the Manhaj of the Salaf - Abu Khadeejah أبو خديجة
Those who revolt against the Muslim rulers and rise-up in opposition to them have no proof for their actions when they claim they are following the example of some of the virtuous Salaf (early Muslims) who rebelled. What they regard as "proof" is actually not proof for them at all.
Abu khadeejah has been getting exposed since the 90s yet fresh practicing muslims still fall for his deception
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Read this article akhi.
The Revolt of some of the Early Scholars of Islam and the Case of Husayn Ibn Ali: Revolution against the Tyranny of Muslim Rulers in Light of the Sunnah and the Manhaj of the Salaf - Abu Khadeejah أبو خديجة
Those who revolt against the Muslim rulers and rise-up in opposition to them have no proof for their actions when they claim they are following the example of some of the virtuous Salaf (early Muslims) who rebelled. What they regard as "proof" is actually not proof for them at all.
I read a long time ago and abu khadejah is still portraying the same cult like behaviour by being impartial in this issue all together
He writes
In the entire article he never once mentions the actual reason and evidence those who rebelled from among the salaf used to justify their khuruj ? They used ayat from the Quran and hadeeth of the prophet peace be upon him for their actions, question is why this has been omitted from the article ? Why only write about the position of those who held khuruj as being impermissible instead of giving evidences for both positions ?
Do you know the reason why those who disputed that there is an ijma used as evidence ? why not state this ? It's self evident to those who are impartial and want to seek the truth that the above article is nothing but a biased representation of the issue being discussed. Those who support this view try to portray that there's only one valid position namely theirs and anyone who differs from them is mistaken. Islam demands that we be just in all of our affairs and not let our hatred of others dictate what is just
I see. I'm not very well-versed in this but it does appear to be a biased site.
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
@Lum and @nomadicblood
Do you consider Hussein, ibn Zubary and all those from the salaf, taabeen who did khuruj against the rulers of their respective times, or those scholars who permitted khuruj as khawarij ?
I want you to answet that question min fadlik
Do you consider Hussein, ibn Zubary and all those from the salaf, taabeen who did khuruj against the rulers of their respective times, or those scholars who permitted khuruj as khawarij ?
I want you to answet that question min fadlik
It's interesting to see how this thread has developed. Not complaining though, I wanna see this.
ibn Yahya Al-Sooli
Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
No it doesn't trust me
Just ask @BetterDaysAhead @borednibba9 @Shmurda and a whole bunch of other niggas on this site that have had females as their profile pics
What are you talking about? Ratings?No it doesn't trust me
Just ask @BetterDaysAhead @borednibba9 @Shmurda and a whole bunch of other niggas on this site that have had females as their profile pics
ibn Yahya Al-Sooli
Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
@nomadicblood is a female but often gets mistaken for a guy, hence the message under her profile pic. @CaliTedesse advised her to put a girly profile pic so this confusion doesn't happen. Then I told him that it doesn't make a difference considering the number of males on sspot that have "girly" profile pics
No it doesn't trust me
Just ask @BetterDaysAhead @borednibba9 @Shmurda and a whole bunch of other niggas on this site that have had females as their profile pics
ibn Yahya Al-Sooli
Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
@nomadicblood @Lum I'm going to make a thread that will absolutely destroy your cult. By Allah I will bring evidence, that is sufficient inshallah, to demonstrate that your cult leaders have nothing to do with the salaf and are instead jahil, hypocritical lap dogs. Make sure to tag all your fellow cult members on sspot! Inshallah this future thread will be a means through which they are guided and their eyes/hearts are opened to see the reality of the situation.
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AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
It's more than that if anything i would say they're being disingenuous by not presenting the differences in a clear and concise manner, allowing their bias to dictate the evidences and omitting facts so as to show they're the ones on the correct path
When i read that article for the first time and even now you get the impression that they're trying to make the claim or imply indirectly that those who came after the salaf had a better understanding of the deen. Ijma is a collection of multiple ijtihaad from different scholars that have come to an agreement ie ijtihaad which correlate with each other.
They're essentially claiming that the ijitihaad of the salaf who revolted is wrong because they went against the Quran and Sunnah. It's a bold claim to make especially for a group that outwardly portray themselves to be the followers of the salaf. Instead of examining the evidences that those who revolted used before coming to a conclusion they simply choose to ignore it as it doesn't validate their poistion and what they believe to be correct.
ibn Yahya Al-Sooli
Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
May not make this thread right away because I will take little while gathering evidence so please bear patience. Anyone that has any info exposing the cult based on their fraud, abuse of women, aqeedah and shar'i mistakes etc please don't hesitate to dm me. Until then I leave you all with a gift especially my news friends @nomadicblood and @Lum@nomadicblood @Lum I'm going to make a thread that will absolutely destroy your cult. By Allah I will bring evidence, that is sufficient inshallah, to demonstrate that your cult leaders have nothing to do with the salaf and are instead jahil, hypocritical lap dogs. Make sure to tag all your fellow cult members on sspot! Inshallah this future thread will be a means through which they are guided and their eyes/hearts are opened to see the reality of the situation.
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AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
When we as individuals allow our biases to dictate how we perceive things, accept or reject issues the end result is that we become excessive in our mannerisms and approach. That's why it's always a good idea to take a step back and reflect before we take any action.
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