Cousin Marriage and Somalia

Gacmeey

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This topic is a non issue in Somalia since we don’t really do extended periods of cousin marriages but regardless you can’t ban something Allah has made halal. One incident of a first cousin marriage only increases the risk by 1.7%-2.8% which isn’t really that much especially if the family has no history of genetic disorders which brings me to my second point.

If we ban cousin marriages because of a slightly elevated risk of a genetic disorder or illness, do we ban people with genetic disorders that can be inherited, like cystic fibrosis, Huntington’s, down syndrome, Alzheimers and many more from having children?
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
I would even go as far to say marry from a different Qabiil all together.

One positive dhaqan of the early Somalis was to create peace they would marry each others women. I think this is something good as we currently have a lot of conflict within Somalia.

Maybe if everybody made it a duty to marry from a completely different tribe this would increase the peace and love people have.

E.g if you are hawiye marry Daarood, Daarood marry Dir, dir Marry Digil and mirifle, Digil iyo mirifle marry hawiye etc and on and on.

At the end of the day you can't hate your reer abti. I've noticed the least qabiilist people usually have parents of different qabiils. They are less tribalist and more reer magaal.
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
I mean pregnant women giving brith to children with autism in somalia compared to the west.

My bad i worded it bad.

However the fact that there isn’t a word for Autism in somali might support my hypothetical.
i don't know because it's inconclusive and I'm knowledgeable on the issue to give answer to that question
 

Internet Nomad

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This topic is a non issue in Somalia since we don’t really do extended periods of cousin marriages but regardless you can’t ban something Allah has made halal. One incident of a first cousin marriage only increases the risk by 1.7%-2.8% which isn’t really that much especially if the family has no history of genetic disorders which brings me to my second point.

If we ban cousin marriages because of a slightly elevated risk of a genetic disorder or illness, do we ban people with genetic disorders that can be inherited, like cystic fibrosis, Huntington’s, down syndrome, Alzheimers and many more from having children?
I think it should be discouraged at the very least. I forgot to alter the beginning part to remove ban after i was doing more research.

Imam shafi discouraged cousin marriage especially routine cousin marriage. I said i don’t mind it as long as it isn’t common which is a fair assessment.

If your asking me if i had power if i would ban people with genetic disorders that can be inherited from parent to child.

It would depend on the likeliness of them getting it and how severe the illness we are talking about.

If its painful or debilitating i don’t think they should be allowed to. I think its child abuse by giving birth to a person who will have a shitty life.
 

Bazed

Tired.
VIP
I've never met a 1st or 2nd cousin married couple. If we do marry it tends to be in clans of our own like a MX marrying a MJ or something. Sometimes sub clans marry as well but the relation is often tge great great grandfather. However the practice of 1st cousin marriages should definitely be a taboo.

We as men should marry other clans to strengthen relations but we should also marry certain ajnabis for genetic diversity. I suggest Turks, levantine, north African and most importantly other cushitic branches.
 

Internet Nomad

βœͺπ•²π–”π–“π–Š ≋4≋ π•Ύπ–šπ–’π–’π–Šπ–—βœͺ
I've never met a 1st or 2nd cousin married couple. If we do marry it tends to be in clans of our own like a MX marrying a MJ or something. Sometimes sub clans marry as well but the relation is often tge great great grandfather. However the practice of 1st cousin marriages should definitely be a taboo.

We as men should marry other clans to strengthen relations but we should also marry certain ajnabis for genetic diversity. I suggest Turks, levantine, north African and most importantly other cushitic branches.
A good source of genetic diversity would be oromized somalis we could reintegrate them back into somalinimo
 
I would even go as far to say marry from a different Qabiil all together.

One positive dhaqan of the early Somalis was to create peace they would marry each others women. I think this is something good as we currently have a lot of conflict within Somalia.

Maybe if everybody made it a duty to marry from a completely different tribe this would increase the peace and love people have.

E.g if you are hawiye marry Daarood, Daarood marry Dir, dir Marry Digil and mirifle, Digil iyo mirifle marry hawiye etc and on and on.

At the end of the day you can't hate your reer abti. I've noticed the least qabiilist people usually have parents of different qabiils. They are less tribalist and more reer magaal.
Digil and Mirifles can't be compared to hawiyes and daroods as they're much more heterogeneous, infact every clan is, an Eelay Bohorad marrying a Eelay Naasiye would be equivalent to Hawiye marrying a darood.
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
Digil and Mirifles can't be compared to hawiyes and daroods as they're much more heterogeneous, infact every clan is, an Eelay Bohorad marrying a Eelay Naasiye would be equivalent to Hawiye marrying a darood.
Hawiye and daarood are the same. If you look at hawiye and Daarood haplogroups you would see they are also heterogenous.

Look at Isaaqs one Subclan which have 4 or 5 different haplogroups.
 
I mean pregnant women giving brith to children with autism in somalia compared to the west.

My bad i worded it bad.

However the fact that there isn’t a word for Autism in somali might support my hypothetical.
That's not good reasoning. Most languages don't have a word for autism.
 
This topic is a non issue in Somalia since we don’t really do extended periods of cousin marriages but regardless you can’t ban something Allah has made halal. One incident of a first cousin marriage only increases the risk by 1.7%-2.8% which isn’t really that much especially if the family has no history of genetic disorders which brings me to my second point.

If we ban cousin marriages because of a slightly elevated risk of a genetic disorder or illness, do we ban people with genetic disorders that can be inherited, like cystic fibrosis, Huntington’s, down syndrome, Alzheimers and many more from having children?
Somalis have really high amounts of genetic diversity so cousin marriage won’t harm us, we are not whites or native Americans.
 
I've never met a 1st or 2nd cousin married couple. If we do marry it tends to be in clans of our own like a MX marrying a MJ or something. Sometimes sub clans marry as well but the relation is often tge great great grandfather. However the practice of 1st cousin marriages should definitely be a taboo.

We as men should marry other clans to strengthen relations but we should also marry certain ajnabis for genetic diversity. I suggest Turks, levantine, north African and most importantly other cushitic branches.
If you’re talking about Somali millennials in the west then yes it’s rare but gen X have engaged in cousin marriages quite a bit from what I can tell.
 

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