Cousin Marriage and Somalia

[Arma]

Mostly a Reer Xamar/Cadcad/Barwani tradition.

 

[mrlog]

Cousin marriage is disgusting and Somalis don't even marry there cousins

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[Internet Nomad]

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[mrlog]

Nah they are not 1st cousins thank god. If they were i would constantly be questioning if i was retarded.

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[Internet Nomad]

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[Banadiri Warrior]

Mostly a Reer Xamar/Cadcad/Barwani tradition.

No such thing as cadcad, Barawani* not Barwani. It's done allover the coast not just xamar and barawa and it's also done in the interior, cousin marriage is very common in south whether it's as close as 1st cousin or as distant as 15th cousin

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

i don't know because it's inconclusive and I'm knowledgeable on the issue to give answer to that question

*i'm not knowledgeable enough on the issue to give a proper answer to that question.

 

[Almis]

Is my 14th cousin considered a cousin?

 

[Haragwaafi]

Cousin Marriage isn't common or favorable practice in our culture or customs and onlt a small minority does it and they're mostly in the south mainly reer Banadirs in the coast do that kind of marraige 90% of te time since they're orginally from Yemen or Oman places where it's common to marry your 1st cousin or 2nd cousin.

 

[Lightshow]

Apparently the most viable person to marry is your third cousin.

 

[Moon-]

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al weezys a girl

 

[mrlog]

al weezys a girl

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[Zak12]

@Internet Nomad I found this paper that talks about Somalis being one of the most inbred groups in Africa with preference for cousin marriage. Thoughts?

Runs of Homozygosity in sub-Saharan African populations provide insights into a complex demographic and health history

The study of runs of homozygosity (ROH), contiguous regions in the genome where an individual is homozygous across all sites, can shed light on the demographic history and cultural practices. We present a fine-scale ROH analysis of 1679 individuals from 28 sub-Saharan African (SSA) populations...

www.biorxiv.org

"Populations close to the diagonal line, like the Somali, have a strong component of systematic inbreeding or FIS, which means that the total inbreeding coefficient, FIT, of this population is mainly produced by a deviation from panmixia, in other words, consanguinity."

"Somali and Oromo populations, from the Horn of Africa, speak Cushitic languages, but Somalis are predominantly Sunni Muslims, with a preference for first-cousin unions, while Oromo people are predominantly Ethiopian Orthodox or follow traditional religions with no preference for consanguineous unions"

 

[Gacmeey]

@Internet Nomad I found this paper that talks about Somalis being one of the most inbred groups in Africa with preference for cousin marriage. Thoughts?

Runs of Homozygosity in sub-Saharan African populations provide insights into a complex demographic and health history

The study of runs of homozygosity (ROH), contiguous regions in the genome where an individual is homozygous across all sites, can shed light on the demographic history and cultural practices. We present a fine-scale ROH analysis of 1679 individuals from 28 sub-Saharan African (SSA) populations...

www.biorxiv.org

"Populations close to the diagonal line, like the Somali, have a strong component of systematic inbreeding or FIS, which means that the total inbreeding coefficient, FIT, of this population is mainly produced by a deviation from panmixia, in other words, consanguinity."

"Somali and Oromo populations, from the Horn of Africa, speak Cushitic languages, but Somalis are predominantly Sunni Muslims, with a preference for first-cousin unions, while Oromo people are predominantly Ethiopian Orthodox or follow traditional religions with no preference for consanguineous unions"

“However, marriage practices explain a relatively small proportion of the variation in ROH distribution and consequently the ability to predict marriage practices from population genetic samples (for example of ancient populations) is limited.”

 

[Basra]

Cousin Marriage is something that the dowlad of somalia need to ban or at least deter people from by the use of education.

There are numerous health issues linked with children born from cousin marriages that is well documented.


Pakistani community in UK is a perfect case example of the issues of cousin marriage.

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Islam does not discourage marriage among cousins. But Imam Shafi and Imam Ahmad, the two leading scholars of the Sunni school of thought dislike cousin marriage and have declared it as makruh. Similarly, some other scholars like Imam Ghazali have also discouraged cousin marriage.


Imam ash-Shafi’ee (may Allah have mercy upon him) said:

لَيْسَ مِنْ قَوْمٍ لا يُخْرِجُونَ نِسَاءَهُمْ إِلَى رِجَالِ غَيْرِهِمْ فِي التَّزْوِيجِ ، وَلا رِجَالَهُمْ إِلَى نِسَاءِ غَيْرِهِمْ فِي التَّزْوِيجِ ، إِلا جَاءَ أَوْلادُهُمْ حَمْقَى

“There is not a group of people who do not bring forth their women to marry men other than their own men, nor do their men go forth to marry women other than their own, except their children will be fools (i.e. born with a mental defect)” [Adaab ash-Shaafi’ee wa Manaaqibuhu (pg. 99) with a Saheeh chain of narration]

Imam al-Maawardi (may Allah have mercy upon him) said: “They (i.e. the Arab) used to choose or the likes of this situation marrying those who are distantly related and are strangers (to each other). They saw that this is more conducive for childbirth and excellent for the creation (of a newborn). They used to avoid marrying family and relatives. They saw that it was harmful for the creation of the child and its birth” End translation. [Adab ad-Dunya wad-Deen (pg. 173)]

In sum, it is permissible to marry first cousins in Islam and there is little harm with that. In terms of continuous inbreeding of cousins, then it is from the Adab (etiquette) of those before us to avoid this out of fear of birth defects. It should be noted however, that this is simply an Adab and not a prohibition. Everything is in the Hand of Allah, the Exalted and Sublime.

Now what did our ancestors feel about cousin marriage
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Mental illness mostly.