Dangers of the Khawarij ideology of violence

[techsamatar]

Rebelling against tyrant Muslim rulers is a Khilafi issue that the salaf have differed on. So no, no one will become Khawarij by simply proclaiming rebellion against a Muslim ruler. Sayidduna Hussein, Aisha Talha, Muawiyya, Zubeir (ra) and the countless Tabi'i fuqaha who rebelled against Abdulmalik bin Marwan are Khawarij according to your logic.

theirs no differing issue amongst the Salaf stop trying to become a member of coping too.

"no one will become Khawarij by simply proclaiming rebellion against a Muslim ruler."

you need to seek help too mate, bro just contradicted himself in one sentence. just go through my threads on what khawariji is and attributes and characteristics if your not knowledgeable.

 

[hanif#]

theirs no differing issue amongst the Salaf stop trying to become a member of coping too.

"no one will become Khawarij by simply proclaiming rebellion against a Muslim ruler."

you need to seek help too mate, bro just contradicted himself in one sentence. just go through my threads on what khawariji is and attributes and characteristics if your not knowledgeable.

Are Aisha, Muawiya, Talha and the other Sahaba who rebelled against Khalif Ali Khawarij?

 

[Almis]

Are Aisha, Muawiya, Talha and the other Sahaba who rebelled against Khalif Ali Khawarij?

No what Aisha, Talha and Al Zubair did called Nakth نكث البيعه which was wrong and haram as Prophet pbuh warned both of Aisha and Zubair from Fight Imam Ali.
What Muawiya did calls Bagi بغي which is worst than what Aisha and Zubair did as Prophet Pbuh said
"تقتل عمار الفئه الباغيه يدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونه الى النار!"
Lastly the Khawarij which is an ideology not an act where they believe everyone else besides them is a Kafir even Imam Ali so you could imagine how misguided they were.

 

[techsamatar]

Are Aisha, Muawiya, Talha and the other Sahaba who rebelled against Khalif Ali Khawarij?

The typical Khawariji tactic involves referencing the initial fitnah among the companions, which revolved around disputes over succession and the confusion surrounding murder of Uthman.

The assassination of Ali was carried out by a Kharijite (separatist) named Abd al-Rahman ibn Muljam. The Kharijites were a radical group that emerged during the First Fitna and believed that Ali, along with Muawiya, was an illegitimate ruler.

How does that relate to following the straightforward practices of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the understanding of the early generations (Salaf) regarding rulership and guidance on whether to rebel or not? It's not just about avoiding rebellion; you're not even permitted to publicly criticize and incite hatred, let alone adopt the methods of the second category of Khawarij known as the 'sitters.

 

[hanif#]

No what Aisha, Talha and Al Zubair did called Nakth نكث البيعه which was wrong and haram as Prophet pbuh warned both of Aisha and Zubair from Fight Imam Ali.
What Muawiya did calls Bagi بغي which is worst than what Aisha and Zubair did as Prophet Pbuh said
"تقتل عمار الفئه الباغيه يدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونه الى النار!"
Lastly the Khawarij which is an ideology not an act where they believe everyone else besides them is a Kafir even Imam Ali so you could imagine how misguided they were.

I'm not defending Khawarij walaal

Lastly the Khawarij which is an ideology not an act where they believe everyone else besides them is a Kafir

Thank you. That's all I'm saying. The act of merely rebelling against a Muslim ruler doesn't make one Khawarij, otherwise, those Sahabas would've been called Khawarij. Take notes @techsamatar. It's funny how you are liking posts that refute your nonsense, it shows how shallow you are.

 

[techsamatar]

I'm not defending Khawarij walaal

Thank you. That's all I'm saying. The act of merely rebelling against a Muslim ruler doesn't make one Khawarij, otherwise, those Sahabas would've been called Khawarij. Take notes @techsamatar. It's funny how you are liking posts that refute your nonsense, it shows how shallow you are.

really don't want to spend time writing paragraphs about this; I've covered this topic extensively. It's puzzling how ideology is seen as separate from actions, especially considering instances like the Khawarij, where the ideology was in place before any actions were taken.

sects of Khawarij are also classified as sitters and revolutionaries.

1>Khawarijuth-Thawriyyah is the sect who revolt and fight against.
2>Khawariju’l-Qa’diyyah (sitters) is a sect of Khawarij who are a revolutionary movement; prefer sitting and provoking common-folks against the ruler without actually revolting themselves.

 

[Al hashimi]

This ayah was about the yahuud who didnt refer back to the torah when issues arose. Are you saying the Yahood are not doing Kufr Akbar by using other laws. Are you saying Ibn Abbas believed the Yahood were doing Kufr duna Kufr in that matter. That ayah was muhakam and you are making ta'wil