Here is a great idea , why don't we develop a new state in Somalia only for secular diasporans. Niqab / Jilbaab will be banned and you need to be educated overseas to live in the city. The town can be in Somaliland awdal region since that has the best weather and is relatively peaceful.
Some rules to follow in the town:
1. Hijab is okay but giant disgusting suugo stained jilbaabs made in china are banned.
Ban niqab? the whole world wears one now. Back off or Allah will send another disaster to show you how silly you are. Stop oppressing people
2. People must be productive within the city and will need to go under a background check.
3. Khat is banned.
4. Non-Diasporans cannot enter the city.
Add some more ideas below.
@DR OSMAN any more ideas?
Non muslims somalis can live In somalia in peaceYes Somalia for Somalis not murtads. Tell Tyrone to pay your child support and stop venting online nayaa.
non muslim muslim every person is a somali at the end of the day.Non muslims somalis can live In somalia in peace
Non somalis arent somalisnon muslim muslim every person is a somali at the end of the day.
Non muslims somalis can live In somalia in peace
He has a point here, we claim to be following Islam when we act like barbaric, and this applies to other Muslim Nations too. Corruption is Haram, yet it thrives. Khat is Haram and yet its normal, tribalism with intention of superiority over others is Xaram, random killing of a person due to being from the same tribe as a killer, and illegal actions to gain money, individual and as a state is of course Xaram.1. the most corrupt nation on earth
2. Khat/Drug usage
3. Tribalistic
4. Longest country on earth that is a failed state
5. Piracy and Islamic extremism.
How can you be motivated in Somalia, the capital is literally a giant shanty town with a significant amount of people starving in IDP slum camps. Of the good places within the capital you have to constantly watch out for explosions.Somalis are madax adheeg nomads, nothing is going to stop rowdy and arrogant, even in the diaspora. Somalis are also disorganized and lazy, I speak from experience. They're short-sighted and impatient people, which means they wouldn't do anything that wouldn't give them instant gratification.
I also noticed that, in recent times, Somalis have become easily demotivated. We need an aspirant leader to kick them out of their lazy pessimism. Believe me, they would change when they see a small light of positivity.
The people on this forum haven't visited Somalia lol. Once on a trip to Boroma i was conversing with a women and she casually injected words like "f*ck your mother" in her vocabulary, of course she was wearing a giant jilbaab and her former husband was a khat addict who used to beat her before the divorce.He has a point here, we claim to be following Islam when we act like barbaric, and this applies to other Muslim Nations too. Corruption is Haram, yet it thrives. Khat is Haram and yet its normal, tribalism with intention of superiority over others is Xaram, random killing of a person due to being from the same tribe as a killer, and illegal actions to gain money, individual and as a state is of course Xaram.
Islam is the way for Somalia. We cannot pick and choose and most certainly disregard it for stupid purposes. But the major sins of corruption and murder must be eradicated beforehand. Swear words are the least of the problems, even though it isn't daqan Islam. Khat too, who legalised it and made it mainstream, I don't know. A social reform is needed.The people on this forum haven't visited Somalia lol. Once on a trip to Boroma i was conversing with a women and she casually injected words like "f*ck your mother" in her vocabulary, of course she was wearing a giant jilbaab and her former husband was a khat addict who used to beat her before the divorce.
Cultural shifts take time, it will only occur when we segregate ourselves from the bad actors and attempt to rebuild through an external base of operations.
Dr Osman enjoys the current Somalia , schitzophrenic people within a functioning Somalia would be arrested and rehabillitated.Even Dr osman not even rocking with you're idea
Lol Idk why you got downvoted other than the diaspora only part cuz I’d want to see all educated and open minded Somalis there and I’d move there asap myself wallah.Here is a great idea , why don't we develop a new state in Somalia only for secular diasporans. Niqab / Jilbaab will be banned and you need to be educated overseas to live in the city. The town can be in Somaliland awdal region since that has the best weather and is relatively peaceful.
Some rules to follow in the town:
1. Hijab is okay but giant disgusting suugo stained jilbaabs made in china are banned.
2. People must be productive within the city and will need to go under a background check.
3. Khat is banned.
4. Non-Diasporans cannot enter the city.
Add some more ideas below.
@DR OSMAN any more ideas?
Fourth Nullifier of Islam :Why is my thread being derailed, being secular does not mean you aren't Muslim. Otherwise the following countries populations aren't muslim:
West Bank Palestine
Indonesia
Bangladesh
Turkey
Mali
Cyprus (Turkey)
Senegal
Tunisia
Sudan
And alot more muslim majority nations. Weirdly enough the best muslim countries seem to be in the above list, even palestine is more advanced then Somalia.
There are many scholars who also oppose the Islamic State mindset such as Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na'im.
Regardless, convincing Somalia of the merits of secularism doesn't matter. A nation of uneducated camel nomads who dress like civilized Arabs can never succeed. We must setup safe towns filled only with intelligent diaspora free to develop economic sectors in Somalia.
The longer i stay in Somalia the more i hate the majority, drugged, lazy and faux zealous. Only 5% are changing Somalia/Somaliland and its mainly diasporans.
Somalia needs strict Sharia Law, I hope to see it some day