Dinka Talent

[The alchemist]

Have you guys seen this new phenomenon with this kid who broke the junior records? If this kid keeps it consistent, without injuries and hard work (which people take for granted), he might break future records:


I can tell by looking at his form that he has a talent constitution for running, relative to most people. And most East Africans (Sudanese and Cushites) are not explosive runners, more for long-distance. I think Gout Gout has a low-body-percentage-fat-to-muscle ratio, with the West African type explosive twitch muscle, but with East African light slender build that gives good efficient running, yet with a higher muscle density and right distributive bodily proportionality. He's the right height for such a build -- not too tall. Usain Bolt is 195 cm but he has that slender but strong disposition which is uncommon. I don't think Gout Gout would do so well if he was built the way he was and was 13 cm taller.

He once ran quicker in the second part of a 200-meter race than the first, a ridiculous thing to witness.

@Nilotic You guys might look forward to something in the future.

I think Usain Bolt did for track sport as what MJ did for basketball. Gout Gout, although I acknowledge his potential, will have to be more because I see the comparisons. He might reach it, but just like how I don't consider Lebron better than MJ, I think Gout Gout has to extend beyond being a Lebron type. I don't blame people for arguing differently.

 

[Abu Hesi]

damn his form is like Usain Bolt, even his swagger after the finish line.

 

[The alchemist]

damn his form is like Usain Bolt, even his swagger after the finish line.

Usain Bolt revitalized the sport and inspired a lot of kids to enter the scene with a whole new culture of bravado.

I hope he gets the proper training support structure that can take him to the next level of performance to exhaust his capacity better. He could become like Derrick Rose and get injuries and become one of the best that never became. Hopefully, that does not happen.

 

[Lightshow]

Who knows we might see a Somali sprinter at some point.

 

[Riftvalley]

Who knows we might see a Somali sprinter at some point.

Even a niltotic world class sprinter is an anomaly as People of west Africa genetics (especially western slave descendants) have that shit on lock. I have only ever met a few really rapid Somalis and even them they could not compete with the fastest Jamaicans.

Nilotics are interesting because some are slightly more toned and muscular than the average Cushitic long distance runner build. That’s why you get people like Rudisha destroy the 800 metres:

 

[The alchemist]

Who knows we might see a Somali sprinter at some point.

I never use genetics as an excuse, but I doubt it. Unless... Maybe if we train Somali Bantus with Somali mixture from Southern Somalia, or an Omotic mixed Oromo from Somaliland who larps as Somali or has Somali mixture.

Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter.

Gout is actually even unique among Dinkas. Those people are usually too slender for power running. When I see the average south Sudanese, like Somalis, they're built for long distance walking.

 

[Lightshow]

I never use genetics as an excuse, but I doubt it. Unless... Maybe if we train Somali Bantus with Somali mixture from Southern Somalia, or an Omotic mixed Oromo from Somaliland who larps as Somali or has Somali mixture.

Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter.

Gout is actually even unique among Dinkas. Those people are usually too slender for power running. When I see the average south Sudanese, like Somalis, they're built for long distance walking.

Although there are obvious patterns to these things, we still cannot ever use blanket statements when referring to anything.

I don't think scientific method and intellect can ever measure the complexity of Allah's creation.

 

[berberaboy66]

Even a niltotic world class sprinter is an anomaly as People of west Africa genetics (especially western slave descendants) have that shit on lock. I have only ever met a few really rapid Somalis and even them they could not compete with the fastest Jamaicans.

Nilotics are interesting because some are slightly more toned and muscular than the average Cushitic long distance runner build. That’s why you get people like Rudisha destroy the 800 metres:

800m is the Kalenjin event. 5 straight winners on the men’s side. The man who came 2nd this year is Marco Arop, Canadian-South Sudanese. He has the Rudisha physical profile

 

[Nilotic]

The man is definitely an outlier, so this is a really good surprise for me; I hope to see more of this -- especially once we pick up as a Nation

 

[Grimmer]

I never use genetics as an excuse, but I doubt it. Unless... Maybe if we train Somali Bantus with Somali mixture from Southern Somalia, or an Omotic mixed Oromo from Somaliland who larps as Somali or has Somali mixture.

Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter.

Gout is actually even unique among Dinkas. Those people are usually too slender for power running. When I see the average south Sudanese, like Somalis, they're built for long distance walking.

I don’t if I am trippin or are Oromos collectively more explosive than Somalis. They tend to be more naturally lean and quicker. I played basketball with a few oromos growing up and they were more athletic than all of us. Only downside is way gaaban yihiin.

 

[Rayaale]

I don’t if I am trippin or are Oromos collectively more explosive than Somalis. They tend to be more naturally lean and quicker. I played basketball with a few oromos growing up and they were more athletic than all of us. Only downside is way gaaban yihiin.

Maybe it’s the omotic genes

 

[Kisame]

Have you guys seen this new phenomenon with this kid who broke the junior records? If this kid keeps it consistent, without injuries and hard work (which people take for granted), he might break future records:


I can tell by looking at his form that he has a talent constitution for running, relative to most people. And most East Africans (Sudanese and Cushites) are not explosive runners, more for long-distance. I think Gout Gout has a low-body-percentage-fat-to-muscle ratio, with the West African type explosive twitch muscle, but with East African light slender build that gives good efficient running, yet with a higher muscle density and right distributive bodily proportionality. He's the right height for such a build -- not too tall. Usain Bolt is 195 cm but he has that slender but strong disposition which is uncommon. I don't think Gout Gout would do so well if he was built the way he was and was 13 cm taller.

He once ran quicker in the second part of a 200-meter race than the first, a ridiculous thing to witness.

@Nilotic You guys might look forward to something in the future.

I think Usain Bolt did for track sport as what MJ did for basketball. Gout Gout, although I acknowledge his potential, will have to be more because I see the comparisons. He might reach it, but just like how I don't consider Lebron better than MJ, I think Gout Gout has to extend beyond being a Lebron type. I don't blame people for arguing differently.

"And most East Africans (Sudanese and Cushites) are not explosive runners, more for long-distance."

Why do y'all always say this???

 

[Riftvalley]

Maybe it’s the omotic genes

Maybe what they eat as well. Ethiopians eat a good mix of carbs, veg and meat.

 

[EyiPunter]

Have you guys seen this new phenomenon with this kid who broke the junior records? If this kid keeps it consistent, without injuries and hard work (which people take for granted), he might break future records:


I can tell by looking at his form that he has a talent constitution for running, relative to most people. And most East Africans (Sudanese and Cushites) are not explosive runners, more for long-distance. I think Gout Gout has a low-body-percentage-fat-to-muscle ratio, with the West African type explosive twitch muscle, but with East African light slender build that gives good efficient running, yet with a higher muscle density and right distributive bodily proportionality. He's the right height for such a build -- not too tall. Usain Bolt is 195 cm but he has that slender but strong disposition which is uncommon. I don't think Gout Gout would do so well if he was built the way he was and was 13 cm taller.

He once ran quicker in the second part of a 200-meter race than the first, a ridiculous thing to witness.

@Nilotic You guys might look forward to something in the future.

I think Usain Bolt did for track sport as what MJ did for basketball. Gout Gout, although I acknowledge his potential, will have to be more because I see the comparisons. He might reach it, but just like how I don't consider Lebron better than MJ, I think Gout Gout has to extend beyond being a Lebron type. I don't blame people for arguing differently.

He's not a kid it's 25 year old man racing children

 

[Nilotic]

He's not a kid it's 25 year old man racing children

He was born in Australia

 

[Kisame]

I never use genetics as an excuse, but I doubt it. Unless... Maybe if we train Somali Bantus with Somali mixture from Southern Somalia, or an Omotic mixed Oromo from Somaliland who larps as Somali or has Somali mixture.

Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter.

Gout is actually even unique among Dinkas. Those people are usually too slender for power running. When I see the average south Sudanese, like Somalis, they're built for long distance walking.

"Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter."

Olympic levels require Somali athletes that have been training since they were children.

Who knows we might see a Somali sprinter at some point.

For some reason niggas think we can't produce any sprinters. The average Olympic sprinter has been training since they were in elementary school. Over the past 40 years not a single Somali guy has been given that opportunity.

These niggas saw mo Farah win Olympic gold and automatically assumed somalis can't compete in the sprints.



Check out this Farah that's a champion in the Netherlands




Looks like he started training late. 10.38 is a good time and shows we got potential if we started training earlier like other Olympians.

https://worldathletics.org/athletes/netherlands/mustafa-mahamuud-14631712

His PB best in the 200m is 20.63

 

[Grimmer]

Maybe it’s the omotic genes

Somalis tend to be skinny or sometimes skinny fat. They don’t have that nice starter pack that madows and other Africans have.

 

[Riftvalley]

"Most Somalis, most people, can run very fast through hard training. Olympic levels is a different matter."

Olympic levels require Somali athletes that have been training since they were children.




For some reason niggas think we can't produce any sprinters. The average Olympic sprinter has been training since they were in elementary school. Over the past 40 years not a single Somali guy has been given that opportunity.

These niggas saw mo Farah win Olympic gold and automatically assumed somalis can't compete in the sprints.



Check out this Farah that's a champion in Denmark




Looks like he started training late. 10.38 is a good time and shows we got potential if we started training earlier like other Olympians.

Have you played competitive sport of any kind? If you did you would know the average 8 year old Jamaican or west African kid is already naturally faster than other ethnic groups including Cushitics. Easy way to test this is go to any junior school sports and see who constantly wins the sprint race. Jamaicans were the minority in my school yet almost every year group had that one Jamaican kid who was faster than everyone else without training.

If a billionaire spent all his money on developing Somalia 100 metre sprinters some poor guys from Cameroon may still beat the elite Somali sprinters. Sure, you can find a good Somali sprinter like the one above, but he will still be an anomaly. 400ms maybe. Cadaans spend millions on track and field but their kids/men always come up short against madows, and yes a large part of is due to genetics.

 

[The alchemist]

Although there are obvious patterns to these things, we still cannot ever use blanket statements when referring to anything.

I don't think scientific method and intellect can ever measure the complexity of Allah's creation.

We're basically talking about averages and how that produces exceptions of exceptions in the Olympics. When we're talking about that level of skill, then yes we can, brother. That is why Serbia (and other east European tall countries) produces a high number of top level basketball players per capita since they're generally tall compared to Japan or China. Japan and China both have renowned NBA players but they are really the extreme cream of the crop. Peep this, the new maverick from Japan is guess what, mixed with African... what does that tell you? I don't project this unto normal fast speeds, or building muscles. Somalis can run fast, become good athletes, and build muscles, there is no excuse. I am not talking about a narrow form of genetic determinism. But you have to understand being the fastest in the world is not the same as that.

The average Somali is way less powerful in the legs than the average Jamaican. That does not mean Somalis can't become fast. I does means when it comes to the percentage of top performance outcome, the proportionality might be 0.002% and 0.02% - that is a big difference (hypothetically speaking). That means more Jamaicans would be the top sprinters than Somalis because although hard work is 98%, at the 2% margins, more bodily dynamics comes to play.

I can become very fast but my friends from Congo and West Africa were always faster than me. They were naturally fast since they were kids. I'm sure I could become a running atheltes. But they ran faster than me, naturally. I could probably outlast them long distance. I could even be faster than them if I trained. But listen here, if they trained too... I would need to train even harder than them to be faster.

But I had a strong mindset. Even at my least athletic position, I came in second place during a tournament in middle school. And I was running against athletes too. The only consistent thing I did back then was go up to the mountains to ski in the winter season which was an extreme sport so that was a training, I guess. I felt sick after for two days straight because of how I fried my lungs. I simply believe with a good mind you can overcome most if not all of your constraints.

Look at how Michael Phelps was built:

The guy was tall, but he had relatively short legs and a long torso with a long wing span. You cannot tell me that is not an advantage.

Look how it looks:

You can become faster than 98% if you try with any body type. You can even become the best. But that means you won with disatnavateges. Statistically, the people with advatages that work as hard as you will on average be a bit better.

But this is again, top level performance. We're not talking about Somalis running faster than most, or building better muscle physice. Those things are easy. But one thing, Somalis can become big in muscles and become good, but do you think they can get Ronnie Coleman physice? Extremely unlikely.

What I am saying is, if you had 10,000 bodybuilders who were Somali and 10,000 African American body builders, they had the same training and they all aspired to become Mr Olympia. I can guess that if there theoretically was top 100 (this is not the case in real life), we'd be lucky if we had 10 while 90 people would be African Americans. Far majority of the Somalis who trained would look bulky and be considered strong guys by the average person but in the extremes, disposition plays a part.

If we had the same for long distance runners, I would flip it. Does that mean African Americans can't win? No. It's just that it is unlikely comparated to Somali athletes. I never use science as an excuse, but we're not talking about normal conditions.

For example, I dislike people who say "my genetics" as an exuse why they look physically horrible. Had they trained, they would build muscles. You can become strong if you tried. You would become smarter if you tried. So, trust me man, I am not here to talk about scientific determinism. I don't respect the YouTube channels that claim Somalis have horrible genetics for muscle building. That say Indians look wack, but if you had seen how the actor from Sillicon Valley looked like the average Indian tech nerd:

Turning into this with hard training and steriord (steriods will not turn your body into this automatically for those who think it does):

It's mostly bad excuses. So I have no doubt that Kumnail Nanjani is something most Indian men can attain if they did the same thing or even tried harder. But does that mean the average Indian is the same playing-field as an African American when it comes to the extremes. No. What I am against is when individuals, whoever they are, use excuses like "my ethnic group have bad genes" - it's weak language and the main source for failure.

At the end of the day, I believe if you try hard and improve you can be the best. Still, it is safe to say that Gout is better than me at running naturally.

 

[The alchemist]

I don’t if I am trippin or are Oromos collectively more explosive than Somalis. They tend to be more naturally lean and quicker. I played basketball with a few oromos growing up and they were more athletic than all of us. Only downside is way gaaban yihiin.

My theory is the endemic ancestry they picked up in Ethiopia.