DNA test

[SultanSharif]

Wanna get a DNA test should I go for 23andme, yfull, myancestory? Furthermore what should I be expecting .paternal (ashraaf) maternal (digil y mirfle)

 

[niggaibnh]

Wanna get a DNA test should I go for 23andme, yfull, myancestory? Furthermore what should I be expecting .paternal (ashraaf) maternal (digil y mirfle)

@Step a side @The alchemist this one is a good one

Let’s see if ashraaf are really ashraaf or they’re Yemeni who happened to we wuz hashim and sheeit

Help walaal out

 

[Step a side]

Wanna get a DNA test should I go for 23andme, yfull, myancestory? Furthermore what should I be expecting .paternal (ashraaf) maternal (digil y mirfle)

Big Y to get on Yfull. Rest are useless for clan research purposes.

 

[Garaad diinle]

Wanna get a DNA test should I go for 23andme, yfull, myancestory? Furthermore what should I be expecting .paternal (ashraaf) maternal (digil y mirfle)

Ashraaf? Can you specify a little bit?

 

[SultanSharif]

Ashraaf? Can you specify a little bit?

I’m not sure about my dads tribe I don’t really know him that well so I couldn’t tell you much but on my mums side ayeeyo-Rahanweyn . Awoowe -Garre.
I’ll try and find out more about my dads side but I was told he was reer xamar specifically ashraaf

 

[SultanSharif]

Also do you guys have any useful information on ashraaf? I looked online and saw they claim they descended from the prophet Muhammad PBUH is there any truth to that? Have they contributed anything significant to Somali history that we know about and what kind of status do they have within Somalia. I was hoping to be a politician back home so any information is much appreciated . I don’t know of any prominent Somali leaders or sultans from that tribe I thought I could get away with claiming my maternal side but that’s not gonna work out ig. Any information is much appreciated I couldn’t find much on google

 

[Step a side]

Also do you guys have any useful information on ashraaf? I looked online and saw they claim they descended from the prophet Muhammad PBUH is there any truth to that? Have they contributed anything significant to Somali history that we know about and what kind of status do they have within Somalia. I was hoping to be a politician back home so any information is much appreciated . I don’t know of any prominent Somali leaders or sultans from that tribe I thought I could get away with claiming my maternal side but that’s not gonna work out ig. Any information is much appreciated

@Garaad Awal was there not an Ashraaf on Yfull?

 

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@Garaad Awal was there not an Ashraaf on Yfull?

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[Garaad diinle]

Also do you guys have any useful information on ashraaf? I looked online and saw they claim they descended from the prophet Muhammad PBUH is there any truth to that? Have they contributed anything significant to Somali history that we know about and what kind of status do they have within Somalia. I was hoping to be a politician back home so any information is much appreciated . I don’t know of any prominent Somali leaders or sultans from that tribe I thought I could get away with claiming my maternal side but that’s not gonna work out ig. Any information is much appreciated I couldn’t find much on google

Ashraaf are these who belong to the house of hashim/bani hashim though everyone nowadays claim to be a bani hashim it's up to dna tests such as yfull to figure out wither you cluster with ahl al-bayt or not. If your only claim to fame is that you're bani hashim that's more than enough of a boast, you're related to the prophet ﷺ and the abbasid dynasty who ruled the islamic world for centuries.

 

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[SultanSharif]

I don’t really know much about genetics but how do I understand what the genetic test means? Are there specific haplogroups that reer xamar have that aren’t considered Somali? I know about E1b1 but I heard rahanweyn have different genetics anyway so I’m wondering how that will affect my test. Forgive me if what I say doesn’t make sense I’m new to genetic studies and tryna find out more

 

[Step a side]

Ashraaf in general are these who belong to the house of hashim/bani hashim though everyone nowadays claim to be a bani hashim it's up to dna tests such as yfull to figure out wither you cluster with ahl al-bayt or not. If your only claim to fame is that you're bani hashim that's more than enough of a boast, you're related to the prophet ﷺ and the abbasid dynasty who ruled the islamic world for centuries.

In the recent Eritrean-Ethiopian study done not that long ago there was a Nara (nilote) with the Ahlul Bayd L859 lineage



He is sample number 77

 

[Step a side]

I don’t really know much about genetics but how do I understand what the genetic test means? Are there specific haplogroups that reer xamar have that aren’t considered Somali? I know about E1b1 but I heard rahanweyn have different genetics anyway so I’m wondering how that will affect my test. Forgive me if what I say doesn’t make sense I’m new to genetic studies and tryna find out more

Take the test. We can help interpret it by seeing where your male ancestors descended from.

 

[SultanSharif]

Ashraaf are these who belong to the house of hashim/bani hashim though everyone nowadays claim to be a bani hashim it's up to dna tests such as yfull to figure out wither you cluster with ahl al-bayt or not. If your only claim to fame is that your bani hashim that's more than enough of a boast, you're related to the prophet ﷺ and the abbasid dynasty who ruled the islamic world for centuries.

Does this give me special status in Somalia? How does this affect my social standing. When I asked my mum about my dads tribe she said they’re miskeen. Doesn’t really sound like a respect kinda thing more of pity. Were they targeted during the civil war? I have so many questions also what’s their status in Somalia are they sidelined and alienated from society or treated similar to the Bantu?

 

[SultanSharif]

Take the test. We can help interpret it by seeing where your male ancestors descended from.

Will do in shaa Allah

 

[SultanSharif]

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Why is there a bunch of European flags if he’s ashraaf is that what I should be expecting?

 

[Garaad diinle]

Does this give me special status in Somalia? How does this affect my social standing. When I asked my mum about my dads tribe she said they’re miskeen. Doesn’t really sound like a respect kinda thing more of pity. Were they targeted during the civil war? I have so many questions also what’s their status in Somalia are they sidelined and alienated from society or treated similar to the Bantu?

The thing is in somalia what really counts is the number and size of your specific clan. The civil war was a mess for everyone but especially for smaller clans, don't think too much about it the oppressors will face allah عز وجل on the day of judgement. Somalia now is heading towards one man and one vote inshallah and the only thing you'd have to win is the battle of hearts and mind hopefully.

 

[Step a side]

Why is there a bunch of European flags if he’s ashraaf is that what I should be expecting?

He connects with those Italians roughly 4000 years ago. Meaning they separated 4000 years ago from a common male ancestor.

J2 is mostly concentrated in the northern half of the Middle East, Iran, India etc and around the Mediterranean but you get the occasional odd individual like this Somali who carry it. Could have had a Yemeni Jew ancestor or a Persian merchant that reached Merca. Or perhaps could be child of an Italian. Anything is possible.