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[Duubpon]

why would a diasporan care about African tribalism outside larping. honestly shows what a foolish people Somalis are.

Because said diasporoids (specifically those in the West) are African and would have to go back to their nations sooner or later so tribalism is either a concept they'll have to face or adjust to.

Do you really think your parents immigrated to the West for you to assimilate into gaalnimo and never set foot in your homeland?

 

[rin]

Because said diasporoids (specifically those in the West) are African and would have to go back to their nations sooner or later so tribalism is either a concept they'll have to face or adjust to.

The truth is that every part of Somalia is a shithole and people who larp their clan in the west are very low intelligence, I however expect much more logic from people who have an education and see what a working government looks like. I'm not blaming a Somali in Somalia for their tribalism because that's basically the only governance there is there, also most of their tribal issues are over things like cattle and grazing land which are real issues to them, but to a diasporan those issues don't matter so it comes from an idiotic sense of being better of because of your clan and your clan being a bit less of a shithole while that's false confidence.

 

[Duubpon]

The truth is that every part of Somalia is a shithole and people who larp their clan in the west are very low intelligence, I however expect much more logic from people who have an education and see what a working government looks like. I'm not blaming a Somali in Somalia for their tribalism because that's basically the only governance there is there, also most of their tribal issues are over things like cattle and grazing land which are real issues to them, but to a diasporan those issues don't matter so it comes from an idiotic sense of being better of because of your clan and your clan being a bit less of a shithole while that's false confidence.

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[Shimbiris]

Idk somalis in real life don't discuss qabiil. I live right next to harti neighbours, and we were friendly even while the hold lascaanod thing happened

Some of the qabiilism I see from certain akhis and other chronically online reer SL honestly makes zero sense. Like, what could they possibly have against reer Koonfur? If someone genuinely believes the Kacaan regime and Daroods tried to genocide Isaaqs then sure—I can at least understand beef with MXs or Hartis. But what on earth does an Isaaq have against a Hawiye or Raxanweyn?

It smells of thinly veiled xenophobia toward Somali Bantus. and Ana-Arabism. You can tell a lot of these people are trying to meme reer Koonfur as "Bantu admixed," when in reality, 99% of the genetic samples we’ve seen from the south are indistinguishable from those in the north. Even the occasional “Congolese” trace that shows up on 23andMe is bogus—it appears in occasional northern Somalis too, including those I've seen on the high end of MENA ancestry among Somalis.

I’ve even seen this kind of madness a bit in real life. One reer SL girl saw a picture of my mom—who’s quite light-skinned—and went, “Oh, your mother doesn’t look like she’s from around Mogadishu. She looks Somalilander.” Like… what? I knew exactly what was going through her head. She genuinely believed light-skinned reer Koonfur didn’t exist. The perception some of these folks have of reer Koonfur being basically Tutsis is insane.

 

[Duubpon]

Some of the qabiilism I see from certain akhis and other chronically online reer SL honestly makes zero sense. Like, what could they possibly have against reer Koonfur? If someone genuinely believes the Kacaan regime and Daroods tried to genocide Isaaqs then sure—I can at least understand beef with MXs or Hartis. But what on earth does an Isaaq have against a Hawiye or Raxanweyn?

It smells of thinly veiled xenophobia and Ana-Arabism—specifically, toward Somali Bantus. You can tell a lot of these people are trying to meme reer Koonfur as "Bantu admixed," when in reality, 99% of the genetic samples we’ve seen from the south are indistinguishable from those in the north. Even the occasional “Congolese” trace that shows up on 23andMe is bogus—it appears in northern Somalis too, including those I've seen on the high end of MENA ancestry among Somalis.

I’ve even seen this kind of madness a bit in real life. One reer SL girl saw a picture of my mom—who’s quite light-skinned—and went, “Oh, your mother doesn’t look like she’s from around Mogadishu. She looks Somalilander.” Like… what? I knew exactly what was going through her head. She genuinely believed light-skinned reer Koonfur didn’t exist. The perception some of these folks have of reer Koonfur being basically Tutsis is insane.

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[Shimbiris]

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But who are they talking about when they keep saying "Somalians". It's not just Daroods. And notice how our Garaad had to hone in on reer Koonfur when trying to differentiate reer SL from other Somalis in that other thread. There is 100% this weird fixation with reer Koonfur and trying to act like it's Rwanda down there and it makes no sense. Pure qabiilism mental illness.

 

[Duubpon]

But who are they talking about when they keep saying "Somalians". It's not just Daroods. And notice how our Garaad had to hone in on reer Koonfur when trying to differentiate reer SL from other Somalis in that other thread. There is 100% this weird fixation with reer Koonfur and trying to act like it's Rwanda down there and it makes no sense. Pure qabiilism mental illness.

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[Shimbiris]

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Wallahi, I set myself up for that one. True, true...

 

[rin]

I’ve even seen this kind of madness a bit in real life. One reer SL girl saw a picture of my mom—who’s quite light-skinned—and went, “Oh, your mother doesn’t look like she’s from around Mogadishu. She looks Somalilander.” Like… what? I knew exactly what was going through her head. She genuinely believed light-skinned reer Koonfur didn’t exist. The perception some of these folks have of reer Koonfur being basically Tutsis is insane.

There is also something to be said about the skewed perception of Somalilanders regarding their own phenotype, my little sister has very curly hair and darker skin, and shes undoubtedly isaaq, landers try to distinguish themselves from other Somalis but there's genuinely no difference except that they like lighter skin people more.

most of the isaaq and other Somali people I have met arent light skinned.

 

[Duubpon]

There is also something to be said about the skewed perception of Somalilanders regarding their own phenotype, my little sister has very curly hair and darker skin, and shes undoubtedly isaaq, landers try to distinguish themselves from other Somalis but there's genuinely no difference except that they like lighter skin people more.

most of the isaaq and other Somali people I have met arent light skinned.

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[Taintedlove]

There is also something to be said about the skewed perception of Somalilanders regarding their own phenotype, my little sister has very curly hair and darker skin, and shes undoubtedly isaaq, landers try to distinguish themselves from other Somalis but there's genuinely no difference except that they like lighter skin people more.

most of the isaaq and other Somali people I have met arent light skinned.

Isaaqs are somali. Somalis are diverse in skintones and features. There is some undoubtedly similar features that make us one ethnicity, but other than that we come in a mix. Qabiil is man-made social construct designed to trace lineage which was important for navigation in somali lands. Isaaqs are not a different ethnicity and do not have any markers of ethnic differences. We are very homogenous as people. Some isaaqs might claim admixtures with yemenis, but so can hartis.

 

[Duubpon]

Isaaqs are somali. Somalis are diverse in skintones and features. There is some undoubtedly similar features that make us one ethnicity, but other than that we come in a mix. Qabiil is man-made social construct designed to trace lineage which was important for navigation in somali lands. Isaaqs are not a different ethnicity and do not have any markers of ethnic differences. We are very homogenous as people. Some isaaqs might claim admixtures with yemenis, but so can hartis.

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[Garaad Awal]

But who are they talking about when they keep saying "Somalians". It's not just Daroods. And notice how our Garaad had to hone in on reer Koonfur when trying to differentiate reer SL from other Somalis in that other thread. There is 100% this weird fixation with reer Koonfur and trying to act like it's Rwanda down there and it makes no sense. Pure qabiilism mental illness.

Somalians are folks like you, Somalis from Somalia. I thought that was pretty straightforward. When I say Somalians that’s the Bosaaso blackie to the cadcad in Marka.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Isaaqs are somali. Somalis are diverse in skintones and features. There is some undoubtedly similar features that make us one ethnicity, but other than that we come in a mix. Qabiil is man-made social construct designed to trace lineage which was important for navigation in somali lands. Isaaqs are not a different ethnicity and do not have any markers of ethnic differences. We are very homogenous as people. Some isaaqs might claim admixtures with yemenis, but so can hartis.

Imagine taking history lessons on Somalis from someone who doesn’t have a clue about history. Why are you still yapping when you have been exposed to be a teen who knows nothing?

 

[kamek]

Somalians are folks like you, Somalis from Somalia. I thought that was pretty straightforward. When I say Somalians that’s the Bosaaso blackie to the cadcad in Marka.

you’re a grown ass man with a son, wallahi get a life.

 

[Duubpon]

Isaaqs are somali. Somalis are diverse in skintones and features. There is some undoubtedly similar features that make us one ethnicity, but other than that we come in a mix. Qabiil is man-made social construct designed to trace lineage which was important for navigation in somali lands. Isaaqs are not a different ethnicity and do not have any markers of ethnic differences. We are very homogenous as people. Some isaaqs might claim admixtures with yemenis, but so can hartis.

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[Shimbiris]

Imagine taking history lessons on Somalis from someone who doesn’t have a clue about history. Why are you still yapping when you have been exposed to be a teen who knows nothing?

Nothing she said is false, to be fair. We are indeed a through and through ethnicity. Anyone claiming otherwise is being insane. And @kamek is sadly correct. I get the sense you're mostly trolling on this site but even if so, you are indeed a grown man with a wife and child and whose real face and identity can be quite easily connected to all these pseudonyms you use online as you've revealed where you generally live, your tribe and what you look like over the years on these sites. Bullying, in your own words, a "teenager" is really not a good look, niyahow, and frankly beneath a man in your station in life.

 

[Bahal]

Like I've said before, this forum is full of deranged qabiilist millennials poisoning the minds of impressionable zoomers



Don't listen to them adeer @Taintedlove

Also, this thread was supposed to be about fasting

 

[Duubpon]

Like I've said before, this forum is full of deranged qabiilist millennials poisoning the minds of impressionable zoomers



Don't listen to them adeer @Taintedlove

Also, this thread was supposed to be about fasting

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[Shimbiris]

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The pot really shouldn’t call the kettle black here, walaalkiis. Roughly 95% of Somali males appear to belong to either a subclade of E-Z813 or T-L208. Even with the variation within those lineages—like the time divergence between my subclade and that of our Garaad’s when compared to other Z813 Somalis which is around 2.5-3kya—is still negligible compared to most other ethnic groups on this planet. You’ll regularly see massive Y-DNA diversity in other populations, spanning completely different haplogroups like G, L, T, E, J, and so on.

Take the Tigrinyas, for example: they’re far fewer in number and inhabit a much smaller region, yet their Y-DNA can range from J-P58 to A-M13, T1a, and several deeply diverged E-M35 lineages all at comparable frequencies. Meanwhile, 95% of Somali men are essentially direct male-line descendants of late Bronze Age Nubians or assimilated Iron-Age Southern Arabians (T-L208). This is not what you’d call a Y-DNA diverse ethnic group.